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Topic: Unaspected Planets---Flailing in the Energy
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MertSerimer
Knowflake Posts: 596
From: where the fun is
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted June 21, 2011 06:52 PM
  
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Originally posted by Coffee:
(My) aspects work in 30 degree segments, applying or separating. So no sesquiquadrate needed. A sextile being a square is just plain wrong. I don't think you are doing this astrology correctly. Look it up.
İ tried to say; if you allow 15 degrees for an aspect, you can ALSO consider a sextile aspect as a SEMİ-SQUARE BECAUSE 60-15 = 45 = semi-square. It is valid for trine-sesquiquadrate also. But if you say; i dont give importance to sesquiquadrate and SEMİ-SQUARE then i get it. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 17255
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 21, 2011 06:55 PM
I don't know ,Carl.
I don't feel unaspected Uranus from you but I feel Saturn and Eris.
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carl
Knowflake Posts: 738
From: China
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 21, 2011 08:50 PM
haha, Eris..IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 17255
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted June 21, 2011 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by carl:
haha, Eris..
You lose Eris points for being able to laugh at yourself ,Carl  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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carl
Knowflake Posts: 738
From: China
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 21, 2011 10:02 PM
I tried to look up eris, it seems like a pretty serious (dwarf) planet discovered not too long ago, like a mini pluto and about what is hidden. I understand why it is no laughing matter  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 21, 2011 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by carl:
I tried to look up eris, it seems like a pretty serious (dwarf) planet discovered not too long ago, like a mini pluto and about what is hidden. I understand why it is no laughing matter
Well, my close friend has Mercury combust the Sun and Eris.
With Eris, you gotta have your stick ready to beat that sucker  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Got Gemini??
Knowflake Posts: 172
From: The Planet Mercury
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 22, 2011 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Semi sextile does not count.I have an exact one between Venus and the moon ,It CAN be mined and used in your life but does not count in determining an unaspected planet, Please share on it Got Gemini
Well, my Venus is really hyperactive i believe. I hate to say this but when I was younger, I fell in love EASILY, now not so much. However, just like its unaspected, it stands and acts alone sometimes if that makes any sense. If I am interested in a woman, I just want to take care of her. Not in a "she can't take care of herself" kind of way, but, I just like doing things for the object of my affection. I don't even speak about my feelings, id rather show and prove. ------------------
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc And yes, I'm a guy! IP: Logged |
Pinkie&TheBrain
Knowflake Posts: 56
From: Europe
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 22, 2011 10:08 AM
what exactly would qualify as an "unaspected" planet? I don't think I have ever seen a planet that is COMPLETELY unaspected.
Especially if you also consider aspects to the AC, MC, or minor aspects.I always felt my Saturn was weak. It's in 12 degrees Capricorn, but conjunct Neptune in 12 d Cap, and conjunct Uranus in 5 d Capricorn. It makes no hard aspects to any of my planets..except minor ones. It makes a sesquisquare to my Moon, and Jupiter. It sextiles my Venus, sextiles my Pluto, loosely trines my Asc(7 degree orb). And it's in the 4th house. Could anyone explain why I feel like my Saturn-represented areas are so weak, if it doesn't make any hard aspects, and is supposedly dignified? It also falls in the 4th house..maybe that's why? I am just terrible at knowing(well, especially "accepting") my own limits, and although I feel I am not completely ambitionless, I rarely manage to discipline myself to focus on my goals..last, and not least, I am possibly the worst at time management, patience, and work endurance.
I also feel very weak(or maybe I just see myself that way).
I just generally feel like no matter what I do, it won't make a difference. here is my chart, if anyone would like to take a peek:
http://www.tribe.net/template/pub,PopPic.vm?picURL=http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/f7f/958/f7f958b4-fc43-4b31-852d-5d12765a63b6&altText=me IP: Logged |
Pinkie&TheBrain
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From: Europe
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 22, 2011 10:11 AM
lol..I just realized that hchart doesn't even show all my Saturn aspects..I guess it must be set on tighter orbs.here is my astro.com chart, on default settings:
http://www.tribe.net/template/pub,PopPic.vm?picURL=http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/567/8be/5678be71-d27a-4568-bf7d-5147d9c520b1&altText=My%20Natal%20Chart-Placidus,Tropi cal,%20with%20Fixed%20Stars%20and%20Asteroids IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 17255
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 22, 2011 10:15 AM
Saturn conj Neptune (exact) and conjuct Uranus (7 degrees)
That is hard.
It makes perfect sense why your Saturn is not as strong as you would like.
Neptune takes away the shape of everything it touches. It puts a dreamy,other worldly quality on things.
Think of very airy music that takes you in to the next dimension of creativity or spirituality.
THAT is happening to your Saturn/work ethic/responsibility
Then,Uranus shakes it all up in an electrical dance.
Yes,it would be hard lol------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
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Pinkie&TheBrain
Knowflake Posts: 56
From: Europe
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 22, 2011 12:00 PM
well, most descriptions I have read of the Saturn-Neptune conjunctions claim the opposite-that Saturn takes over Neptune. You'd especially think that is the case with Neptune being in Capricorn, as well.I guess it can go either way. Both my parents have this conjunction in Leo(including Uranus, I think-they were born in '51, '52) and they are more of Saturn, none of Neptune.
But they each also have Saturn conjunct some personal planets.
My mom has it conjunct Mercury and Sun, my dad has it conjunct his Mars.
They both seemed to completely repress their Neptunes, because they were very focused on hard fact, concrete results, and just being very "pragmatic" and "realistic". So far, I have ben the opposite. I have repressed Saturn in favor of Neptune.
I guess the issue is really finding a balance..as in finding a way to "make dreams come true". IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 17255
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 22, 2011 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by Pinkie&TheBrain:
well, most descriptions I have read of the Saturn-Neptune conjunctions claim the opposite-that Saturn takes over Neptune. You'd especially think that is the case with Neptune being in Capricorn, as well.I guess it can go either way. Both my parents have this conjunction in Leo(including Uranus, I think-they were born in '51, '52) and they are more of Saturn, none of Neptune.
But they each also have Saturn conjunct some personal planets.
My mom has it conjunct Mercury and Sun, my dad has it conjunct his Mars.
They both seemed to completely repress their Neptunes, because they were very focused on hard fact, concrete results, and just being very "pragmatic" and "realistic". So far, I have ben the opposite. I have repressed Saturn in favor of Neptune.
I guess the issue is really finding a balance..as in finding a way to "make dreams come true".
Hmm
Which planet takes over? That would prolly go to the root of your chart with chart rulers.
I never really understood dispositers which can show which planet has dominance in a chart. ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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phoenity
Knowflake Posts: 37
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Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 22, 2011 01:42 PM
My Scorpio Saturn is unaspected, unless you would count a 9-degree square to my Pisces sun.Any insights? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 17255
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 22, 2011 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by aquavenus:
Hey ami! I know someone with an unaspected Saturn, took me a long while to figure why he's so unstable. I'm just assuming apart from lots of Sagittarian influence, the problem could be his unaspected Saturn. I haven't really seen him commit to any cause really, he talks a lot about wanting to but his actions are opposite. Very go...stop...go sort of personality. Hmm he also has Venus in Capricorn, the love life is a bigger mess! I wonder if there's any relation between that.
Unaspected Saturn is supposed to be the opposite of what you describe.
It must be something else with him lol
Saturn,as is the case often, shakes up the description of other things.
IOW,with Saturn you have someone who may take time to find himself but when he does ,he is a very honorable person with high character;one on whom you can depend.
He really values hard work and will work little by little for anything.
My son has this and he really does embody it.
Want to hear something sweet? He is a manager at McDonalds.
Sometimes HIS manager will give "old" food to people,not old in making them sick old lol,just stale buns etc
My son's eyes will tear up when he tells me about it.
He takes SUCH pride in his job.It is amazing! ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 17255
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 22, 2011 01:56 PM
Dear Phoenity
Read the post above  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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phoenity
Knowflake Posts: 37
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Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 22, 2011 02:09 PM
Thank you. My Capricorn Midheaven needs my Saturn energy. I can relate to your son. IP: Logged |
Pinkie&TheBrain
Knowflake Posts: 56
From: Europe
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 22, 2011 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hmm
Which planet takes over? That would prolly go to the root of your chart with chart rulers.
I never really understood dispositers which can show which planet has dominance in a chart.
I mean, since its a conjunction between such different energies, the two planets fiht for supremacy..so it can go back and forth between being uber-pragmatic and killing your dreams, or just dreaming without any sense of reality.
The best manifestation of Saturn-Neptune aspects is turning dreams into reality.
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Applegreen
Knowflake Posts: 192
From: A star between Venus and Mercury
Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 24, 2011 12:45 PM
My Venus only makes three aspects, and they are wide orbs.Venus Trine Mars 6°06
Venus Conjunct Chiron 9°23
Venus Trine Asc 7°03 Would my Venus be considered unaspected? Or is it just really weak? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 17255
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 24, 2011 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by Applegreen:
My Venus only makes three aspects, and they are wide orbs.Venus Trine Mars 6°06
Venus Conjunct Chiron 9°23
Venus Trine Asc 7°03 Would my Venus be considered unaspected? Or is it just really weak?
Not unaspected cuz the orbs need to be greater than 8 degrees
Do you FEEl it as unaspected? ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Applegreen
Knowflake Posts: 192
From: A star between Venus and Mercury
Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 24, 2011 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Not unaspected cuz the orbs need to be greater than 8 degrees
Do you FEEl it as unaspected?
That's the thing, I'm not sure. I feel very Venus-y naturally (Taurus sun 7th, Libra asc). And I feel like love and romance is the most important thing in my life, and that it is what defines my existence. quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I can love others but I can't love myself.
That is the PERFECT embodiment of an unaspected Venus
I feel like I agree with this half of the time. Sometimes I can say that I love myself wholeheartedly, but sometimes I get really down and wonder what's wrong with me. IP: Logged |
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