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scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 459 From: Texas Registered: May 2009	posted June 21, 2011 01:55 AM Some people are naturally extroverted and very good at meeting others and making friends. I am in between extraverted and introvered, I'm a happy medium, and when I allow other people to get to know me, they almost always like me. BUT, I have the hardest time meeting new people, it's like I want to connect with otheres, but there is a self inmposed wall around me. Sometimes I even purposely block people out who actively try to be my friend or want to know me. All I can say is that there is some kind of insecurity or anxiety that I experience. Sometimes even just talking on the phone to someone I dont know very well. It's totally crazy and I'm thinking it has something to do with my mercury. I know mercury not only shows communication, but your ability to connect. Maybe the moon shows this too? Idk. Sorry for the rant. Mercury in scorpio in the 7 h conjunct uranus, oppose chiron, and semi square saturn. Any thought on my problem, please help! IP: Logged
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 70 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011	posted June 21, 2011 03:06 AM I don't know what makes me this way but I am different from most people. I go in cycles. As a child I was Extroverted. In my teens I became introverted. Now I am becoming more extroverted. IP: Logged
MsCandeh Knowflake Posts: 601 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2009	posted June 21, 2011 03:15 AM hi scrappydog I am another who goes in cycles between mild extroversion and mild introversion and am recently finding out that people think I am super extroverted and social (even my best friend thinks so) but I see myself as introverted and much like you describe. What do other people think or has anyone said something in passing?? It's interesting how we perceive ourselves one way but others see the complete opposite. Out of all those I would say mercury conjunct Uranus may bring about that, as uranus is the natural ruler of the 11th house of friends and groups. Your Merc in 7th would make you more social (7th is the house of relationships with others) but in Scorpio probably brings about deep thinking etc and putting up walls ( I find scorpio is associated with defensive walls until you get to know someone) which is why you may be feeling this way. It may not necessarily be how others perceive you to be though. IP: Logged
dysfunctionalmystic Moderator Posts: 453 From: Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 21, 2011 03:23 AM I think that society has a lot to answer for. We're force fed that we're supposed to be constantly open to others which is just not normal. I can connect with just about anybody yet I still don't class myself as an extrovert. Merc in 9th in opp to jupiter in 3rd. My Mercury makes aspects to the moon (trine), Mars (square) uranus (quintile) neptune (trine) and pluto Septile) and it squares the ascendant. Mscandeh - I agree about how others will see us differently to how we see ourselves. I only just got out of bed and don't have my brain engaged yet but I wonder if this is because it's how we feel and they just don't see past the social front? IP: Logged
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 70 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011	posted June 21, 2011 03:33 AM I think that everyone is ultimately introverted but most people are uncomfortable with themselves so they find comfort in others, even if or usually for the wrong reasons. IP: Logged
MsCandeh Knowflake Posts: 601 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2009	posted June 21, 2011 03:44 AM I absolutely think it is a reflection of how we feel about ourselves. This is when knowing what energies you are working with and exploiting them to your best advantage comes in handy. You end up being more genuine to yourself and others. I also associate this feeling of wanting to connect but feel a disconnection, with ASC square Sun natally. I have this. I can't speak on behalf of others, but I personally know quite a few people with ASC square sun and wonder if they also suffer from this feeling. I live with someone with ASC square sun (Gemini/Pisces) and know that he is doesn't perceive himself to be social, whereas I think he definitely is and finds it easy to connect with people. His Mercury trines moon and sextiles venus natally (venus and moon are in opposition). His mercury makes a 135 degree aspect (sesquiquadrate) to Uranus. I wonder if it is this Uranus/Mercury aspect as well which can cause us to feel this. Both our mercuries are in Aries so we shouldn't technically have these feelings if we were just looking at sign alone. IP: Logged
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 70 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011	posted June 21, 2011 03:55 AM Yes you are right. There is a desire to connect. Ultimately we feel at home within ourselves but we still need the touch of "others". IP: Logged
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 1136 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 21, 2011 04:52 AM LOL scrappy - I knew your Merc was water as soon as I started reading. We're a secretive bunch.. Mine is Pisces. My all-time favourite Mercury is Scorpio. Both Pisces Merc and Scorpio Merc are emotionally cautious until they know the person well. The only difference is Pisces Mercury sometimes puts on a 'sociable' act... whereas Scorpio is very honest about being a private person. quote: I even purposely block people out who actively try to be my friend or want to know me. That's very Scorpio Mercury. Sometimes I don't want people in my space.. but I still pretend to like them (Pisces)- I make myself vanish slowly and avoid them - usually in a way that is subtle.. so that they don't realize that they are being avoided. I don't overtly block them out - as Scorpio Merc does. My ex who has Scorpio Merc always told me off about being indirect lol -- Some of my best friendships have been with fellow water Mercs. IP: Logged
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 818 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010	posted June 21, 2011 04:55 AM Sigh. It's amazing how so many people are oblivious to the way others feel. Have you ever gotten to know people and they've told you how they feel about themselves? I've gotten to know almost all the people I've come in ckntact with, because I love deep conversations, and I can assure you that whether the shyest person you will ever meet, or the biggest craziest party animal ever, I have talked to them all, and they all said that they felt that they were shy and introverted on the inside. Everyone feels like you do. Of course everyone feels somewhat uncomfortable talking on the phone. Everyone feels unsure when getting to know a new person, no one is completely themselves at first. What do you think, no one is scared? No one has insecurities? Everyone is human and has feelings, and we're all scared. You're just like everybody else and I wish more people would see how much we're all the same. The only thing that is holding you back is thinking that you're different from everyone and that you shouldn't be allowed to be scared or to have insecurity. It's normal. You're normal. Now go out there and meet people, and always follow your heart, trust yourself, dont follow other's advice if it doesnt feel right, and make friends only with people it feels natural being around, and most of all dont be so harsh on yourself, you're normal, and everyone has trouble making true friends. IP: Logged
CrazyAquarian Knowflake Posts: 851 From: US Registered: Jan 2010	posted June 21, 2011 04:59 AM quote: Originally posted by scrappydog: Sometimes I even purposely block people out who actively try to be my friend or want to know me. Me too! IP: Logged
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 1136 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 21, 2011 05:03 AM quote: I've gotten to know almost all the people I've come in ckntact with I know what you mean. I do get to know people really well. Although, I seldom open up about myself. I think this is typical of Pisces.. because I can ask a question and I'll listen to the person talk for the next 20 min (but very often they don't realize that they never asked me anything in return). quote: I wish more people would see how much we're all the same. I completely agree to this! But - in terms of water Mercury not getting close... It is not because they don't know 'we're all the same'. Oh It's actually difficult to explain. I'll come back and try again later, as I'm too tired right now IP: Logged
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 818 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010	posted June 21, 2011 05:07 AM And the reason why people think you are actually extriverted and very comfortable is the same reason why you think that ithers are extroverted and have no insecurity. But just like you, they feel insecure on the inside, becaus everyone is insecure. I have sun square my ascendant (cancer/libra) but I dont feel that "disconnect" ya'll are talking about. I know that ppl dont know me, so what they perceive of me is not necessarily true. And ppl have very different perceptions of me anyway, some have said i'm too serious, some say i'm really funny and cant close their mouth at the disbelief that someone actualy called me serious, some say i'm overbearing, others cant beljeve Anyone would think i am since to them i'm angelic and a sweetheart, others see me as shy, others see me as extroverted, some as dumb, others as really smart, some as stubborn, others as too passive, some as selfish, others as a doormat, some as dorky, others as completely undorky, some as witty others as boring, lol i could go on, you know....Some say i have a temper, others are extremely surprised that anyone would think i have a temper or can even possibly be angry and theyve known me for years! Ppl's perception is quite different IP: Logged
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 818 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010	posted June 21, 2011 05:16 AM Betty Boop...believe it or not i do understand what ur saying . Haha. I think people with lots of water have somewhat of an inferiority complex, I think it's because they are much too sensitive, tactful, and wise to show any sort of false pride like most other people do. Plenty of people are fake and say they arent shy or insecure at all when in fact they do actually feel shy a lot. But since water heavy people are so honest themselves, they think others are being honest, too. They are well-meaning people who are easily hurt by disillusion from other people who arent the most evolved. But they should know that inside, these people who seem so tough and rational and capable, are just like them. On the other hand, other people who put up a front themsves realize that people are scared too or if they dont they are way too prideful to stop and wallow in self-pity. They gotta keep on moving. Water people are much more reflective, inexperienced and naive. So they tend to develop an inferiorirty compex. Staying indoors and not having many acfual experiences can lead one to not see things in their total reality. IP: Logged
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 818 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010	posted June 21, 2011 05:30 AM That is an interesting thing you said about how certain people take a longer time to open up about what's happened in their life, actually. I find generally that if the other person has opened up and seems comfortable and has said something i can really elate to, I will also open up. Since you dont know if that person has really opened up that fully, though, i'm sure that person is also thinking that they are kind of shy and dont want to open up fully at the moment, because if everyone went around not having one ounce of shyness things would be really awkward if everyone shared TMI with you! Lol! Haha. Also i think usually one person tries to take the initiative because Somebody has to, and they try to be open and honest so the other person will feel comfortable as well. Usually feom my experience when neither person takes the initiative it's because the two people dont feel much chemistry and the way the other talks makes them both feel awkward. And when one person or both people do, then th opposite is true, the people really care about each other and feel they connect and would really like to make the conversation interesting and enjoyable for the other person. The reason i say this is because sometimes i am very forthright and honest about my past, and sometimes not, all depends on how comfortable the other person makes me feel. IP: Logged
sand Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: May 2011	posted June 21, 2011 01:51 PM introvert- needs alone time to recharge extrovert- energized by people i'm an introvert. you can never tell. hmm.. i have mercury in aries conjunct venus in taurus. but i have no air signs so i'm not up for talking bout work or the weather. i try to switch the topic to hockey coz i live in hot weather and not a lot of people have actually even seen snow so they run out of things to say. hell i may even run out of things to say about hockey! IP: Logged
BlueTopaz124 Knowflake Posts: 219 From: Portland, OR, USA Registered: Apr 2009	posted June 22, 2011 12:35 AM Scrappydog...I also have a Scorpio Merc in my 12th...love my space and take my time getting close to people, since just seem to know who I can and can't trust anyways. My Sun is in Sag, 1st house and have Asc, Mars and Jupiter in Sag too, so you'd think I was this extrovert, but not at all. I'm a naturally friendly person, so people think I'm an extrovert, but am also somewhat shy. Being empathic doesn't help, since I'm like a sponge...lol So, I can relate to your connecting and not connecting...some of it's by choice and some due to how I'm feeling around certain people. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 12328 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 22, 2011 05:57 AM quote: Originally posted by scrappydog: Some people are naturally extroverted and very good at meeting others and making friends. I am in between extraverted and introvered, I'm a happy medium, and when I allow other people to get to know me, they almost always like me. BUT, I have the hardest time meeting new people, it's like I want to connect with otheres, but there is a self inmposed wall around me. Sometimes I even purposely block people out who actively try to be my friend or want to know me. All I can say is that there is some kind of insecurity or anxiety that I experience. Sometimes even just talking on the phone to someone I dont know very well. It's totally crazy and I'm thinking it has something to do with my mercury. I know mercury not only shows communication, but your ability to connect. Maybe the moon shows this too? Idk. Sorry for the rant. Mercury in scorpio in the 7 h conjunct uranus, oppose chiron, and semi square saturn. Any thought on my problem, please help! It is NOT a rant. What hit me was Nessus. I know we discussed it somewhere. I would like to help you resolve this. I am sure your background has a LOT to do with it. That being said, you can find Saving Graces in your chart:ways that YOU shine and excel that are uniquely yours. Would you like to put up a separate thread in Personal readings or on here with your chart on it and we could discuss it. You KNOW I went through a lot if you have been around here for any length of time lol I am getting out of it though. Astrology is a big factor cuz it does what I am suggesting. It shows you where you are special,where you can shine, what makes YOU unique from all other people. That gives you confidence! ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
waxlobster Newflake Posts: 16 From: Birmingham Registered: Mar 2011	posted June 22, 2011 06:35 AM Hiya, I'm not thinking your ability to meet/integrate with people has anything to do with Mercury. The wall you describe sounds like Ascendant/Ascendant ruler in hard aspect to Saturn? It's finding ways that suit you, social scenes which allow you to feel comfortable... Please, feel free to post your chart.. {I don't know if there are certain areas you are supposed to refine that fore??} IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 12328 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 22, 2011 06:37 AM quote: Originally posted by waxlobster: Hiya, I'm not thinking your ability to meet/integrate with people has anything to do with Mercury. The wall you describe sounds like Ascendant/Ascendant ruler in hard aspect to Saturn? It's finding ways that suit you, social scenes which allow you to feel comfortable... Please, feel free to post your chart.. {I don't know if there are certain areas you are supposed to refine that fore??} Good point about ASC but I am feeling it is more core like the moon. ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 12328 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 22, 2011 07:13 AM Are you low in fire, Darling? ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomen He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
waxlobster Newflake Posts: 16 From: Birmingham Registered: Mar 2011	posted June 22, 2011 08:12 AM The Moon is about how you feel on the inside, for instance you wouldn't imagine that my Moon in Cancer conjunct Saturn square Pluto would be very gregarious?? Yet my Libra Rising conjunct Uranus, trine Jupiter would imply a very social, extravert? When I tell people I'm shy they never believe me! You can't of course isolate parts of a chart and expect them to represent the person. The whole chart tells the full story {nobody likes to be misquoted} but there is no way I socialise like my Moon sign... unless of course I'm having a dinner party IP: Logged

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