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curbro
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posted June 22, 2011 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curbro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recently moved nine hours to take a position with a new company. The manager who hired me was fired about two weeks afterward paving the way for my current manager to take over. The next month, I was the seventh sales person out of about three hundred employees and my store was doing well. As soon as my current manager was involved, I noticed him acting very affectionately toward a female associate. They constantly messaged each other and were always very close when working together. She came to work dressed inappropriately on several occasions. After discussing this with him yielded no results, I documented her behavior and sent her home. He called me immediately afterward defending her. The next day, he offered me a new position three hours away and the more I objected the larger my moving bonus grew until I reluctantly accepted and moved a mere three months after the nine hour move. Our relationship has grown increasingly worse over the past few months. A week ago, I was approached by his boss. She inquired as to the nature of his relationship with said sales associate. I told her my evidence was circumstantial but explained what I'd seen. Now, things are even worse.

Needless to say, stuff's all hittin' the fan and thangs. I'm feeling a bit afraid as I'm sensing drastic change coming. I want to be ready. I've torn my transits to pieces looking for some clue as to what to expect but, unfortunately, my emotions are rendering an impartial evaluation rather difficult. If anyone is willing to shed some light on my situation, it would be much appreciated. Yesterday, the sun entered my ascendant. While I'm expecting changes in the way I'm perceived, I'm hoping to hear whether they'll be positive or negative.

Please help me. :S

Here are the aspect tables.

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posted June 22, 2011 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starcrossedleo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm sorry to hear about all that is going on with your job.


The transits I see are :

Transiting Uranus square Natal Neptune

The planet of sudden change and flashes of insight contacts the planet of dreams, illusions, and delusions. During this transit, you will tend to become interested in all things strange and mystical. Be careful that they are not also delusional.

Neptune is ruled by Pisces which is in your tenth house of career and Uranus is also transiting your 10th house

I can't predict how it will turn out as I am pretty new and still learning. That is the first impression I got from the transits in your chart.

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posted June 22, 2011 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curbro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your help, Starcrossedleo. I had hoped that Neptune ruling my Midheaven would help me. (Fingers crossed) Just to throw a bit more in, my current boss (the guy screwing around with the sales associate) is a Pisces Sun and Moon (Hello Neptune!). Coincidence?

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posted June 22, 2011 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starcrossedleo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem. I'm sure there are others who could give you some more insight.

I am just staring to understand transits...
As far as coincidence=I believe there are no coincidences!

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posted June 23, 2011 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for curbro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You and I both, Leo.

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posted June 23, 2011 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you have that uranus conjunct venus transit. which seems like it makes sense its a romantic relationship with this guy and a co worker. any uranus venus combos bring out the weriod and random both in romance and in friendships, well pretty much in general.plus you have the transit in your 10th house of public and how people see you at work.

you dont happen to know what this guy and the co-workers birthdays are maybe you can find something out from their charts.

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posted June 23, 2011 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curbro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, but I do, actually.

His (my boss) chart:

This skank-a** ho's chart:

And their composite:

Good luck. Just thinking about the whole thing makes me want to puke.

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posted June 23, 2011 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow they have a sun venus opposition

also his mars and venus are conjunct in aries square her retrograde mars in a couple of years he will have that uranus right smack on that conjunction good luck to him.

thats about all i know im not very experinced with astrology much but thats as much as i can tell you.

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posted June 23, 2011 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curbro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DepTaurus:
wow they have a sun venus opposition

also his mars and venus are conjunct in aries square her retrograde mars in a couple of years he will have that uranus right smack on that conjunction good luck to him.


I'm not a huge synastry buff. While I greatly value your response, I'm afraid I suck at any derivation of its meaning. Care to elaborate?

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posted June 23, 2011 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curbro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are they going down? PLEASE tell me they're going down. :S

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posted June 23, 2011 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well as far as i know sun venus combination in relationships work good their caring towards eachother and most people with this placement can last together.

now im looking toward the future when that uranus comes conjuct to his mars venus conjuctions cause that can cause randomness and total choas he could abruptly end the relationship and start a new one uranus in venus together work like that but with mars involved its even more chaotic.

plus she has her sun in cancer in the tenth house and a relationship at work can either work and cant work but usually having sun in the 10th could be she could be disgraced in her work life or publicly as well.

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posted June 23, 2011 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curbro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DepTaurus:
well as far as i know sun venus combination in relationships work good their caring towards eachother and most people with this placement can last together.

now im looking toward the future when that uranus comes conjuct to his mars venus conjuctions cause that can cause randomness and total choas he could abruptly end the relationship and start a new one uranus in venus together work like that but with mars involved its even more chaotic.

plus she has her sun in cancer in the tenth house and a relationship at work can either work and cant work but usually having sun in the 10th could be she could be disgraced in her work life or publicly as well.


Well, she has been manipulating others to gain power and he has been lying to everyone and helping her manipulate others for their personal benefit against the company's best interests. Now his superior is beginning to question the nature of their relationship. With the upcoming eclipse on July 1st, I think wide-scale changes are coming her way. He has a Leo Ascendant and Leo is next up after Cancer. They do have great potential and strength when they work together and always accomplish the goals they set. They simply use it for the wrong purposes and slight others in order to get ahead. It's wrong. The mistake I made was trying to take them on alone. I have a tight Sun/Uranus square in my natal as well as a Sagittarius Mars. I loathe control and am, at times, too self-righteous for my own good. I can, however, practice what I preach and make no exception when my own actions are in question. Trampling on me is one thing. Destroying what others have worked all their lives to build is another. That's when I got involved.

Lol. Sorry. You can see I'm a bit passionate about this whole situation. I only want justice.

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posted June 23, 2011 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the girl allie has alot of bad aspects one with her mercury square her moon pluto conjunction in scorpio. there is no doubt this girl is intense in my mind. curbo do find her to be intense kinda always lurking that kinda thing.

also sun opposite mars here is an interpretation

There is an unmistakable competitiveness and a "me-first" attitude with those who have Sun square or opposition Mars in their natal charts. The fighter persona is most apparent in youth, when the child is described as a "bundle of energy", or it is remarked that he or she "can't sit still". The abundant energy generated by the hard aspects (especially the square) between the Sun and Mars is hard to direct in childhood. Later in life, ideally, those with these aspects have learned to channel some of their excess energy into productive avenues--perhaps through career, sports, or any area where competitiveness is considered an asset. Nevertheless, people with these aspects can meet up with more than their share of conflict, and they can most certainly rub people the wrong way. They are very motivated to get things done, to take action rather than simply talk about something, and to get from point A to point B as quickly as possible. Those who know them quite well might describe these people as hot-headed and temperamental at times. They are easily frustrated, and they're given to impulsive actions and assertion of their wills. If the aspect is found in cardinal signs, it gives impulsiveness and a short temper. If the aspect is found in fixed signs, the natives can be very hard-headed and willful. If it's in mutable signs, it gives a restless and frustrated impatience.

Essentially, those with Sun square Mars in their charts have faced conflict and are not particularly afraid of it. They have faced having their need to assert themselves blocked. Their parents may have done as much as they could to "tame" what they felt to be excess energy or aggression. In other words, they know all about conflict and blockages, so that when they are faced with a challenge or a roadblock, they don't run away from it or hide under the covers feeling sorry for themselves. They meet challenges head-on.

Sun opposition Mars people are more confrontational and argumentative than active. In youth, they might feel that they often face anger from others. They might see the Mars energy as coming from the outside. If and when they face the fact that the aggression is actually a part of their own personalities, they are more equipped to direct the competitive energy into productive avenues.

she also has venus square saturn

Giving and receiving love are not flowing and natural for people born with Venus in hard aspect to Saturn. Blockages are experienced, and love relationships may be a source of frustration as a result, until the natives learn to love themselves, and to feel worthy of love from others. Duty is often associated with love, and some might find themselves stuck in a loveless marriage, for example. Especially in youth, these people might feel awkward in some social situations, unsure of how to express affections, and fearful of rejection. Problematic Saturn positions often get better with age, experience, and practice, however! In its more negative expression, some people with this position learn to scheme in order to get what they want from a partner, or they might treat partnerships as if they were businesses.

These aspects can make natives especially sensitive to "cues" that suggest they are not loved or rejected in some way. People with Venus-Saturn in hard aspect can often "expect" rejection in issues of love and care, whether they are conscious of this tendency or not. This can often lead to negative situations in love -- and bad timing or the feeling of having "bad luck" in relationships.

People with Venus in hard aspect to Saturn might either downplay their physical appearance or pay excessive attention to it. Either way, self-consciousness with adornments is common. Often, people with this position sell themselves short. They are not risk takers when it comes to relationships, often choosing a path that they feel is safe, even if it is an uncomfortable one. Fear of giving can also express itself through tight-fistedness with money.

The key to handling these aspects is to learn to loosen up and relax. Know that you may be oversensitive to rejection -- and try to gain some perspective when you feel your love is not being returned to your satisfaction. Are you truly letting love in, or is there a part of you that is scared? Could your expectations and "heaviness" in the area of relationships (you might take love more seriously than most) be getting in the way of accepting love and affection? Venus-Saturn people may have deep-seated feelings of being unworthy of love, even if they are able to rationalize and decide otherwise!

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posted June 23, 2011 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by curbro:
Well, she has been manipulating others to gain power and he has been lying to everyone and helping her manipulate others for their personal benefit against the company's best interests. Now his superior is beginning to question the nature of their relationship. With the upcoming eclipse on July 1st, I think wide-scale changes are coming her way. He has a Leo Ascendant and Leo is next up after Cancer. They do have great potential and strength when they work together and always accomplish the goals they set. They simply use it for the wrong purposes and slight others in order to get ahead. It's wrong. The mistake I made was trying to take them on alone. I have a tight Sun/Uranus square in my natal as well as a Sagittarius Mars. I loathe control and am, at times, too self-righteous for my own good. I can, however, practice what I preach and make no exception when my own actions are in question. Trampling on me is one thing. Destroying what others have worked all their lives to build is another. That's when I got involved.

Lol. Sorry. You can see I'm a bit passionate about this whole situation. I only want justice.


i can tell your very passionate about this situation. also in my opinion i think that what their doing is messed up.

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posted June 23, 2011 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the guy your boss in his chart he has his moon square uranus here is an interpretation.

People with these aspects in their natal chart are studies in contradiction. When they are able to fulfill their emotional needs for closeness, support, and intimacy, another part of their personality rebels. They feel closed in, restricted, and uncomfortable with feelings of dependency. However, when they are left alone on an emotional level, they can feel left out. They begin to crave closeness and intimacy once again. They keep people at an emotional arm's length often enough, yet struggle with their emotional independence.

Daily routines feel too stifling for these individuals. They need to mix things up in order to feel creative and emotionally vital. Inconsistency is a result, and some level of domestic disorder is almost a guarantee. Living with them can be challenging for more orderly and systematic people!

People with Moon-Uranus hard aspects despise emotional pretense. They are adamant about expressing themselves honestly, which generally translates to "sporadically". If they don't "feel it", they simply won't do it. It can be challenging to pin them down at times--they will feel cornered. Don't take it too personally, however, because they not only rebel against your schedules, they rebel against their own as well! The fact is, when they try to bring more order to their lives, it can be hard to stick to a program, even if they were the ones who designed the program.

Their insistence on following their own intuition and "inner code" is admirable on one hand. In fact, they are generally quite proud of their emotional honesty. However, this honesty can be difficult for others to deal with at times. They are sometimes accused of selfishness as a result, although they don't see it that way at all. They are generally very creative people, although their creative output is sporadic. Whenever Uranus is strongly connected to a personal planet in the natal chart, you'll find this "stop-and-start" energy simply because these people live on intuition. Uranus intuition is not the same as Neptune intuition--it's more self-focused and has to do with being true to oneself.

More often than not, Moon-Uranus people had unusual early home lives. They may have been given an unusual amount of freedom as a child, or the converse. Whichever was the case, they insist upon a certain level of personal freedom as adults. Their experience of their mother figure may have also been erratic in the expression of nurture.

These people attract changes and disruptions into their domestic lives. They may not enjoy this fact, but if this is the case, they must examine their lives a little more closely. Consider a person who thinks to himself, "hey, my life has become pretty routine--even boring" and then shortly thereafter his life takes a sharp turn. The crises that he now faces may not seem like something he has literally asked for. However, with the Moon in hard aspect to Uranus, the basic energy is a basic need for emotional excitement. We may live with this basic need and not even recognize it. If we don't own it, we can attract upsetting emotional situations and disruptions into our lives. It's hard to know whether Moon-Uranus people embrace changes (these ones move house often, re-arrange their homes frequently, mix up their domestic routines every once in a while, and so forth) or resist them stubbornly. One thing is certain, however: the happiest people with this natal chart aspect recognize their need to do things differently with regards to how they approach family and home life.


he has sun conjunct mercury in pisces square saturn but its a pretty wide orb

here is mercury conjunct sun interpretation

Because the ego and the mind are aligned, people with Sun conjunct Mercury possess much mental energy. They are always in a position to think about what they want, and in many ways, this is an interruption of the will. Mercury brings definition to whatever it contacts, and when aligned with the Sun, the natives apply logic and definition to the will--and the will generally works better when it is allowed to "just be" rather than be analyzed. The result is much intelligence and communication ability, and a lot of pride invested in the intellectual capacities. These people may not listen as well as they speak, however! They might be too busy thinking about what to say next. As far as studying or learning goes, they are better off reading the material than listening to a teacher. These traits come from a strong need to take an active role in communications. It is very hard for these people to passively listen and absorb information.

Their opinions are usually strong and they are independent thinkers. They tend to be proud of their opinions and their thoughts, and might easily get a bruised ego if they are not "heard", if their opinions are pushed aside or ignored, or if their opinions are criticized. Sun conjunct Mercury people are expressive and, in some cases, very animated speakers.

as well as sun square saturn
Those people born under a challenging aspect between the Sun and Saturn face a fair number of challenges in their lives, especially in the first half of life, in which their attempts to express their will are thwarted. There can be a persistent feeling that they don't get what they want more often than other people around them. They can feel unlucky. Attempts to control their environment, and sometimes others, may be frequent.

These people fear their own feelings of inadequacy! They want to be considered accomplished and important people, and when they face obstacles, they don't always want to believe that they are their own worst enemy. They long to be considered important in the eyes of the world, yet they harbor fear of success at the same time. They take failures and minor setbacks to heart, and some practically beat themselves up over them. Self-awareness to the point of real self-consciousness is characteristic of Sun-Saturn challenging aspects. The truth is, nobody holds a microscope over them, except for themselves. A little setback or a faux pas needn't be analyzed to death. Fingers needn't be pointed. No, they didn't make a spectacle of themselves when they made a mistake. They need to stop worrying about always being right, or appearing suave and accomplished. When they ease the pressure they put on themselves, they find that they don't face as many brick walls. It is very much about what they feel they deserve. Deep down inside, if they let themselves truly believe that they deserve happiness and peace of mind, they will find it.

When Saturn is closely connected to a personal planet, there is usually an effect of censoring going on with whatever is ruled by the planet it joins by aspect. For example, with the Moon, which rules emotions, the natives feel the need to censor their emotions and feelings, scanning them for what is thought to be frivolous. With Saturn and the Sun, there is much self-censoring going on. "I shouldn't.." is a common censoring mechanism with these people. They feel they shouldn't want too much. When they express egotism of any form, some part of them feels guilty. As the Sun rules our conscious mind, it does enough censoring on its own. It is the "adult" within us. Saturn, on the other hand, is more like the "parent" within us. We need parents to guide us when we are children, and to some degree as adults, but for the most part, we don't need to be censored indefinitely--something that seems to be the case with Saturn-Sun hard aspects, except that the censoring and parenting is coming from within.

Ideally, these people eventually learn that the standards they set for themselves are too high, and that may be the reason they seem to hit brick walls. They recognize that many of the restrictions they face in life are often self-created, born of a defeatist attitude. They should be aware of the tendency to choose the hardest paths to travel and/or to deny themselves some of life's pleasures. Working on recognizing and managing these tendencies will help them to avoid the pitfalls of this combination. These people have a sarcastic sense of humor, a keen intelligence, and the ability to apply caution and strategy. The vitality may suffer, and troubles with the bones, teeth, and circulation may surface

i hope this helps you.

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posted June 23, 2011 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in terms of the july 1st eclipse its suppose to be at 9 degrees in cancer which will oppose her mars and square that conjunction he has in aries.

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posted June 23, 2011 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curbro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DepTaurus:
the girl allie has alot of bad aspects one with her mercury square her moon pluto conjunction in scorpio. there is no doubt this girl is intense in my mind. curbo do find her to be intense kinda always lurking that kinda thing.

Omg YES! She is very intense and often lurks around as if uninterested but you KNOW she's just waiting for a reason to run to him and get you in trouble. She sort of lords their "friendship" over everyone's head.

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also sun opposite mars here is an interpretation

There is an unmistakable competitiveness and a "me-first" attitude with those who have Sun square or opposition Mars in their natal charts. The fighter persona is most apparent in youth, when the child is described as a "bundle of energy", or it is remarked that he or she "can't sit still". The abundant energy generated by the hard aspects (especially the square) between the Sun and Mars is hard to direct in childhood. Later in life, ideally, those with these aspects have learned to channel some of their excess energy into productive avenues--perhaps through career, sports, or any area where competitiveness is considered an asset. Nevertheless, people with these aspects can meet up with more than their share of conflict, and they can most certainly rub people the wrong way. They are very motivated to get things done, to take action rather than simply talk about something, and to get from point A to point B as quickly as possible. Those who know them quite well might describe these people as hot-headed and temperamental at times. They are easily frustrated, and they're given to impulsive actions and assertion of their wills. If the aspect is found in cardinal signs, it gives impulsiveness and a short temper. If the aspect is found in fixed signs, the natives can be very hard-headed and willful. If it's in mutable signs, it gives a restless and frustrated impatience.

Essentially, those with Sun square Mars in their charts have faced conflict and are not particularly afraid of it. They have faced having their need to assert themselves blocked. Their parents may have done as much as they could to "tame" what they felt to be excess energy or aggression. In other words, they know all about conflict and blockages, so that when they are faced with a challenge or a roadblock, they don't run away from it or hide under the covers feeling sorry for themselves. They meet challenges head-on.

Sun opposition Mars people are more confrontational and argumentative than active. In youth, they might feel that they often face anger from others. They might see the Mars energy as coming from the outside. If and when they face the fact that the aggression is actually a part of their own personalities, they are more equipped to direct the competitive energy into productive avenues.

she also has venus square saturn

Giving and receiving love are not flowing and natural for people born with Venus in hard aspect to Saturn. Blockages are experienced, and love relationships may be a source of frustration as a result, until the natives learn to love themselves, and to feel worthy of love from others. Duty is often associated with love, and some might find themselves stuck in a loveless marriage, for example. Especially in youth, these people might feel awkward in some social situations, unsure of how to express affections, and fearful of rejection. Problematic Saturn positions often get better with age, experience, and practice, however! In its more negative expression, some people with this position learn to scheme in order to get what they want from a partner, or they might treat partnerships as if they were businesses.

These aspects can make natives especially sensitive to "cues" that suggest they are not loved or rejected in some way. People with Venus-Saturn in hard aspect can often "expect" rejection in issues of love and care, whether they are conscious of this tendency or not. This can often lead to negative situations in love -- and bad timing or the feeling of having "bad luck" in relationships.


This couldn't be more true. Especially the part about scheming to get what they want. Just a note: I have Mars square Sun, and she has Mars opposite Sun.

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People with Venus in hard aspect to Saturn might either downplay their physical appearance or pay excessive attention to it.

Excessive attention.

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Either way, self-consciousness with adornments is common. Often, people with this position sell themselves short. They are not risk takers when it comes to relationships, often choosing a path that they feel is safe, even if it is an uncomfortable one. Fear of giving can also express itself through tight-fistedness with money.

O.M.G. :O

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The key to handling these aspects is to learn to loosen up and relax. Know that you may be oversensitive to rejection -- and try to gain some perspective when you feel your love is not being returned to your satisfaction. Are you truly letting love in, or is there a part of you that is scared? Could your expectations and "heaviness" in the area of relationships (you might take love more seriously than most) be getting in the way of accepting love and affection? Venus-Saturn people may have deep-seated feelings of being unworthy of love, even if they are able to rationalize and decide otherwise!

WOW! Thanks so much, Deptaurus. This helps makes sense of her motivations for sure.

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hey no problem

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Originally posted by DepTaurus:
the guy your boss in his chart he has his moon square uranus here is an interpretation.

People with these aspects in their natal chart are studies in contradiction. When they are able to fulfill their emotional needs for closeness, support, and intimacy, another part of their personality rebels. They feel closed in, restricted, and uncomfortable with feelings of dependency. However, when they are left alone on an emotional level, they can feel left out. They begin to crave closeness and intimacy once again. They keep people at an emotional arm's length often enough, yet struggle with their emotional independence.

He has a power problem. Everyone from the outside says all he cares about is power and women. In reality, he objectifies women to the point of fanaticism placing little value on their opinions. His supervisor happens to be an African-American woman. He loathes her.

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Daily routines feel too stifling for these individuals. They need to mix things up in order to feel creative and emotionally vital. Inconsistency is a result, and some level of domestic disorder is almost a guarantee. Living with them can be challenging for more orderly and systematic people!

People with Moon-Uranus hard aspects despise emotional pretense. They are adamant about expressing themselves honestly, which generally translates to "sporadically". If they don't "feel it", they simply won't do it. It can be challenging to pin them down at times--they will feel cornered. Don't take it too personally, however, because they not only rebel against your schedules, they rebel against their own as well! The fact is, when they try to bring more order to their lives, it can be hard to stick to a program, even if they were the ones who designed the program.


This is him. F'sho.

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Their insistence on following their own intuition and "inner code" is admirable on one hand. In fact, they are generally quite proud of their emotional honesty. However, this honesty can be difficult for others to deal with at times. They are sometimes accused of selfishness as a result, although they don't see it that way at all. They are generally very creative people, although their creative output is sporadic. Whenever Uranus is strongly connected to a personal planet in the natal chart, you'll find this "stop-and-start" energy simply because these people live on intuition. Uranus intuition is not the same as Neptune intuition--it's more self-focused and has to do with being true to oneself.

I actually have a very tight Sun/Uranus square from H6 to H10. Because of this, moderation and consistency are hard-earned virtues for me.

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More often than not, Moon-Uranus people had unusual early home lives. They may have been given an unusual amount of freedom as a child, or the converse. Whichever was the case, they insist upon a certain level of personal freedom as adults. Their experience of their mother figure may have also been erratic in the expression of nurture.

These people attract changes and disruptions into their domestic lives. They may not enjoy this fact, but if this is the case, they must examine their lives a little more closely. Consider a person who thinks to himself, "hey, my life has become pretty routine--even boring" and then shortly thereafter his life takes a sharp turn. The crises that he now faces may not seem like something he has literally asked for. However, with the Moon in hard aspect to Uranus, the basic energy is a basic need for emotional excitement. We may live with this basic need and not even recognize it. If we don't own it, we can attract upsetting emotional situations and disruptions into our lives. It's hard to know whether Moon-Uranus people embrace changes (these ones move house often, re-arrange their homes frequently, mix up their domestic routines every once in a while, and so forth) or resist them stubbornly. One thing is certain, however: the happiest people with this natal chart aspect recognize their need to do things differently with regards to how they approach family and home life.


he has sun conjunct mercury in pisces square saturn but its a pretty wide orb

here is mercury conjunct sun interpretation

Because the ego and the mind are aligned, people with Sun conjunct Mercury possess much mental energy. They are always in a position to think about what they want, and in many ways, this is an interruption of the will. Mercury brings definition to whatever it contacts, and when aligned with the Sun, the natives apply logic and definition to the will--and the will generally works better when it is allowed to "just be" rather than be analyzed. The result is much intelligence and communication ability, and a lot of pride invested in the intellectual capacities. These people may not listen as well as they speak, however! They might be too busy thinking about what to say next. As far as studying or learning goes, they are better off reading the material than listening to a teacher. These traits come from a strong need to take an active role in communications. It is very hard for these people to passively listen and absorb information.

Their opinions are usually strong and they are independent thinkers. They tend to be proud of their opinions and their thoughts, and might easily get a bruised ego if they are not "heard", if their opinions are pushed aside or ignored, or if their opinions are criticized. Sun conjunct Mercury people are expressive and, in some cases, very animated speakers.

as well as sun square saturn
Those people born under a challenging aspect between the Sun and Saturn face a fair number of challenges in their lives, especially in the first half of life, in which their attempts to express their will are thwarted. There can be a persistent feeling that they don't get what they want more often than other people around them. They can feel unlucky. Attempts to control their environment, and sometimes others, may be frequent.


The control thing is definitely apparent. It's about mind games with him.

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These people fear their own feelings of inadequacy! They want to be considered accomplished and important people, and when they face obstacles, they don't always want to believe that they are their own worst enemy. They long to be considered important in the eyes of the world, yet they harbor fear of success at the same time. They take failures and minor setbacks to heart, and some practically beat themselves up over them. Self-awareness to the point of real self-consciousness is characteristic of Sun-Saturn challenging aspects. The truth is, nobody holds a microscope over them, except for themselves. A little setback or a faux pas needn't be analyzed to death. Fingers needn't be pointed. No, they didn't make a spectacle of themselves when they made a mistake. They need to stop worrying about always being right, or appearing suave and accomplished. When they ease the pressure they put on themselves, they find that they don't face as many brick walls. It is very much about what they feel they deserve. Deep down inside, if they let themselves truly believe that they deserve happiness and peace of mind, they will find it.

When Saturn is closely connected to a personal planet, there is usually an effect of censoring going on with whatever is ruled by the planet it joins by aspect. For example, with the Moon, which rules emotions, the natives feel the need to censor their emotions and feelings, scanning them for what is thought to be frivolous. With Saturn and the Sun, there is much self-censoring going on. "I shouldn't.." is a common censoring mechanism with these people. They feel they shouldn't want too much. When they express egotism of any form, some part of them feels guilty. As the Sun rules our conscious mind, it does enough censoring on its own. It is the "adult" within us. Saturn, on the other hand, is more like the "parent" within us. We need parents to guide us when we are children, and to some degree as adults, but for the most part, we don't need to be censored indefinitely--something that seems to be the case with Saturn-Sun hard aspects, except that the censoring and parenting is coming from within.

Ideally, these people eventually learn that the standards they set for themselves are too high, and that may be the reason they seem to hit brick walls. They recognize that many of the restrictions they face in life are often self-created, born of a defeatist attitude. They should be aware of the tendency to choose the hardest paths to travel and/or to deny themselves some of life's pleasures. Working on recognizing and managing these tendencies will help them to avoid the pitfalls of this combination. These people have a sarcastic sense of humor, a keen intelligence, and the ability to apply caution and strategy. The vitality may suffer, and troubles with the bones, teeth, and circulation may surface

i hope this helps you.


Very much, Deptaurus. I have a better understanding of their motivations than before. If I may ask, where did you find these interpretations?

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I have some nodal contacts coming up both natal and transiting that project either sudden loss of job or sudden rise in reputation and promotion. I'm not saying I'm happy he's making all these mistakes by any means. I just want justice. I'm hoping whoever replaces him (whether it's me or not) is a fair-minded, even-handed person. I didn't change the entire coarse of my life just to be spewed out in someone's little bs power game. Puke.

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posted June 23, 2011 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
www.cafeastrology.com its very good. check it out

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posted June 23, 2011 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well hopefully everything works out for you and your job situation.

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I thought it looked like cafeastrology. Thanks again. I just took a look at his chart for the July 1 eclipse and the sun and moon will be in the first few degrees of his 12th house or secrets opposite Pluto on the cusp of H5 and 6. I've got my fingers crossed. These two need to be exposed.

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lol you are secretly enjoying this lol i can tell.

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And hers is happening in H10 opposite Mars and Neptune and square her Ascendant.

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