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DepTaurus
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posted June 24, 2011 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

anyone have any insight on my heliocentric chart.

p.s i feel more like my helio chart then my real chart.

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zanarkand112
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posted June 24, 2011 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zanarkand112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Heliocentric chart is very different from the natal Tropical chart. Your natal Tropical chart is "all about you" -- the heliocentric chart is not. The Heliocentric chart is not specifically about your personality, and has more to do with how you impact others on a grand scale or a collective. If it were not so, most Aries would act like Libras, and most Libras would act like Aries. This chart shows your shadow, your opposite.

Your Earth sign is always 180 degrees, on the complete opposite side, from your natal chart's Sun Sign. The Moon is always conjunct the Earth, and the Ascendant and houses are missing for obvious reasons, seeing as how from the viewpoint from the sun being the center that would be impossible.

It is also called the "Chris Consciousness" chart. As one astrologer I heard put it, the heliocentric chart shows your potential once get "get out of your own way". One example: I heard some interesting speculation about artists whose artwork left a mark on history having Venus - Neptune aspects in their heliocentric chart. But I haven't checked that out to be sure...


These are the only interpretations of your "earth sign" I know of available online: http://www.philipsedgwick.com/Helio/EarthSun.htm

There really isn't much information about heliocentric charts available. I think Magi Society has some stuff on heliocentric charts, but their interpretations can be very fatalistic sometimes. Hope this helps!


BTW, can you post your birth time? I am curious about something...

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DepTaurus
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posted June 24, 2011 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its at 12.30pm noon

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zanarkand112
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posted June 24, 2011 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zanarkand112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I didn't find exactly what I was looking for. I am only guessing that you felt pulled to the Heliocentric chart because of your Earth sign being in Scorpio, so I wanted to see what Pluto was doing in the Natal.

Scorpio is the fourth house ruler with Pluto conjunct the I.C.

Pluto quincunxes(inconjunct) Venus

Pluto Trine Mars with Mars also in the eighth house

Pluto Trines Jupiter

and Pluto very widely squares your Moon(some may think it's too wide, which could make you a Hades Moon if you believe in orbs that wide work)

I would still count you as a very Plutonic person. Although, it was just a guess as why you felt pulled to your Heliocentric chart. With Scorpio on the fourth house cusp, Pluto being the ruler of the fourth conjunct the I.C....ouch! I can't imagine that being good for your home life, and it would almost seem like some mandatory traumatizing experiences from the past. I also have read that those with Pluto conjunct the I.C. have an inner-tension so intense they are almost "never" able to relax. Despite being a Taurus Sun, which are renowned for being laid back and easy going, maybe this is where the intensity your soul is feeling is coming from... Despite Pluto touching anything else in your chart(and you do have some heavy plutonic influence), anyone with Pluto conjunct an angle in their chart is most certainly a Plutonic person.

Sorry to spend more time on your natal chart, when you requested info on the Heliocentric one. Just trying to take a guess why you felt like the Helio one was more "you".

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DepTaurus
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posted June 24, 2011 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thats ok an insight is ok with me i especially like your insinuations that im plutonic because no one has ever told me that i find it intresting.

what i find intresting in my heliocentric chart is my venus mars conjunction espicially in aquarius because i am detached and aloof especally in matters of love which i never experinced since i find them all too demanding and very werid to me

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zanarkand112
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posted June 24, 2011 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zanarkand112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also...from another site:

Pluto/IC – Stubborn – You are self-assured and opinionated (deaf). You are capable of taking a position and making a stand without being arrogant or offensive. Overtly agreeable and tractable, you are skilled in the art of winning acquiescence without yielding an inch.

Ruler IC conjunct IC – Self-cloistering – You are friendly and sociable, but fundamentally are a loner, and you find sustained contact with other people grating or enervating (self-pampering). You are happiest and do your best work alone, on your own.

There is a spiritual manifestation with this angularity rather than a material one: from the spiritual point of view, the Nadir is actually the most powerful angle, since it is not as tied to the standards of success in society as are the other three angles – it shows a self-validating form of strength.

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posted June 24, 2011 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zanarkand112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DepTaurus:
thats ok an insight is ok with me i especially like your insinuations that im plutonic because no one has ever told me that i find it intresting.

what i find intresting in my heliocentric chart is my venus mars conjunction espicially in aquarius because i am detached and aloof especally in matters of love which i never experinced since i find them all too demanding and very werid to me


Well, that would make sense seeing as how the I.C. is "hidden", and is the basement in your astrological chart. Energy related to it is not overtly obvious to others. It's kept tucked away in "storage". lol

Also, you have South Node in Aquarius, which is what you have excelled at. It's the road in life you have 'most traveled". And your Moon sign is there, so you are probably tempted to fall back on your Moon sign a lot when you don't know what to do in your journey living this life.

I think the Heliocentric chart conjunction would be more about you have the ability to love passionately and intensely, but with an air of detachment and very concerned about also having a friendship despite whatever passion you have. I know Charlie Sheen has that conjunction in the his heliocentric chart. But his is in the wild and freedom-loving sign of Sagittarius. And you see the impact he left on the world with his love affairs...lol

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posted June 24, 2011 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks so much for those interpretations i enjoyed them

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