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Taineberry
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posted June 27, 2011 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an almost perfect yod in my chart with Neptune/Moon/Desc in Scorpio in 7th at the apex, inconjunct both the Sun in Gemini in 2nd and Jupiter in Aries in 11th. (which are sexitle). The orbs for sun/jup/neptune are all less than 0.20. Very tight.

(I'm not sure if the chart attachment will come out right as it is the first time I am trying it)

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Futhermore (not on the pic above chart), Pallas in Leo in the 3rd is EXACTLY trine Jupiter and sextile Sun (forming a minor grand trine) and EXACTLY square Neptune at the apex of the yod. It looks like some kind of aspect pattern, but I have no idea what it is.


Can anyone help with an interpretation for this? Mostly, what I am interested in is the effect that all this has on Neptune, which seems to be taking all the strain.

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posted June 27, 2011 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, sorry , the image attachment did not work!

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Taineberry
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posted June 27, 2011 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I got it this time (finally read the instructions!!!)

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posted June 27, 2011 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Yod too... I wish I understood it a lot more!

Mine... Moon Taurus/12th (apex), Sun/Neptune Sag/6th, Pluto Libra/5th... with Uranus Scorpio/5th as a boomerang (opposite of the Moon)

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posted June 27, 2011 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aethan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Allow me to jump in and be totally shameless by dropping my own yod specifications here in hopes someone may clarify its meaning for me as well. :P

MC is in Capricorn
Pluto (retrograde) is in Scorpio (7th)
Chiron (retrograde) is in Gemini (2nd)

MC sextile Pluto
MC quincunx Chiron
Pluto quincunx Chiron


@Taineberry that really is a curious position for a yod. I'm guessing it's got a lot to do with relationships. But that is all I venture to say :P 'cause I don't really know what to make of yods. Let's hope someone with knowledge comes and comments.

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posted June 28, 2011 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aethan - you mentioned relationships??

Well, I used to have a strong tendency to put people on pedastals in relationships, maybe even idolize them, and then be devastated when they developed feet of clay. Eventually, the penny dropped - it was my expectations that causing the problem, not the behavior of the other person. So nowadays, I try very hard not to project my needs onto others, and keep my expectations very low – because if I don’t do this I always end up getting disillusioned and then it becomes a painful exercise to cut through all the illusion and face the way things really are (as opposed to the way I wanted them to be). Co-dependent situations are definitely anathema to me and I avoid them like the plague. The pursuit of authenticity in relationships devoid of illusion is my holy grail. However, behind this, I must confess that the concept of what I think an ideal relationship should be remains a siren call and I yearn for it, and I have an elaborate idea of what it should look like – but I don’t make the mistake any more of believing that it can really exist given the constraints of a material existence. Maybe this is the Neptune part of the yod? Learning to cut through illusions by recognizing what that what is ideal cannot be real, and what is real cannot be ideal. And making the necessary adjustments to accommodate both?

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posted June 28, 2011 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by racole12:
I have a Yod too... I wish I understood it a lot more!

Mine... Moon Taurus/12th (apex), Sun/Neptune Sag/6th, Pluto Libra/5th... with Uranus Scorpio/5th as a boomerang (opposite of the Moon)


Ok I will give yours a try - forgive me if I am off target!

Moon in Taurus in the 12th house at the apex of the yod may indicate a point of paradox in your life. At stake here, are your emotions which crave a place to withdraw in peace in order to recharge and find a sense of stability and serenity, but perhaps this is easier said than done because finding that point of inner peace is so elusive and you need to make constant adjustments to find it. At your disposal to help you on your quest you need to use your natural Insight and Imagination (Sun/Neptune) in an intensely self-aware manner (Pluto). Uranus is at the reaction point – telling you to centre yourself through creative activities that are inventive and absorbing.

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posted June 28, 2011 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aethan:
Allow me to jump in and be totally shameless by dropping my own yod specifications here in hopes someone may clarify its meaning for me as well. :P

MC is in Capricorn
Pluto (retrograde) is in Scorpio (7th)
Chiron (retrograde) is in Gemini (2nd)

MC sextile Pluto
MC quincunx Chiron
Pluto quincunx Chiron

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Well, this is my attempt for you aethan :
Chiron in Gemini in the 2nd house at the apex of the yod may indicate that you have an innate understanding of how self-worth arises from the need to be heard and understood, because you have 1st hand experience of knowing what it is like to not be understood. As a result, you are able to help others, but finding the best way to do this requires constant refinement on your part which you can achieve by drawing on your capacity to generate transformational change (Pluto) in your professional capacity (midheaven) .

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posted June 29, 2011 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 29, 2011 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Mind if I add my Yod info too? I have been trying to figure Yods out for a while.


2 double Yods:
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Chiron Taurus (Retrograde) - 1st House
Sextile
Jupiter Cancer (Retrograde) - 3rd House

Both Quincunx
Ceres Sagittarius conjunct Venus Scorpio - 8th House
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And

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Moon Virgo - 6th House
Sextile
Uranus Scorpio - 7th House

Both Quincunx
SN conjunct Eris (Retrograde) - 12th House

NN conjunct Pluto at the release point - 6th House


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posted June 29, 2011 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Xiiro - I'll give it a try! Yod's are so bittersweet, and point to areas of potential spiritual enlightenment, because of the inherent yearning quality in them. They contain within them your personal holy grail.

First yod
You know you have a natural capacity to provide intensely nurturing and loving care in your relationships, especially when that innate compassion brings about transformational change to both parties, but why are you so afraid of losing the object of your loving-kindness? You will always have a yearning to express this part of yourself, but the paradox is that in order to keep love, you need to learn to let go of your desire to possess it. Realize that the deep unconditional love that resides in you is a quality that will never change and has merit in itself, regardless of fears about whether any one specific person stays or goes – it will remain as a beacon of light to those who need it. Adjustments to your perspective will be aided the wisdom (Jupiter) you gain from learning from your own painful experience (Chiron) and then using this to enhance your understanding.

2nd yod
In the past (or a past life) you came from a place where you had to stand alone to defend your rights aggressively without much help from others, and the memory of this still worries you on an unconscious level. While the instinct to be defend what is yours to the hilt is fated to have a lasting effect on you, you are also under strain to adjust your need to wage your own private war by learning to let be what is if it can’t be changed and then let it go. The underlying cause will never go away, but you can use your capacity for original thought (Uranus)to intuitively and sensitively (Moon) to gradually adjust and contextualize your experience for growth leading to a place of personal power (Pluto at the release point).

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posted June 29, 2011 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Xiiro - I'll give it a try! Yod's are so bittersweet, and point to areas of potential spiritual enlightenment, because of the inherent yearning quality in them. They contain within them your personal holy grail.

First yod
You know you have a natural capacity to provide intensely nurturing and loving care in your relationships, especially when that innate compassion brings about transformational change to both parties, but why are you so afraid of losing the object of your loving-kindness? You will always have a yearning to express this part of yourself, but the paradox is that in order to keep love, you need to learn to let go of your desire to possess it. Realize that the deep unconditional love that resides in you is a quality that will never change and has merit in itself, regardless of fears about whether any one specific person stays or goes – it will remain as a beacon of light to those who need it. Adjustments to your perspective will be aided the wisdom (Jupiter) you gain from learning from your own painful experience (Chiron) and then using this to enhance your understanding.

2nd yod
In the past (or a past life) you came from a place where you had to stand alone to defend your rights aggressively without much help from others, and the memory of this still worries you on an unconscious level. While the instinct to be defend what is yours to the hilt is fated to have a lasting effect on you, you are also under strain to adjust your need to wage your own private war by learning to let be what is if it can’t be changed and then let it go. The underlying cause will never go away, but you can use your capacity for original thought (Uranus)to intuitively and sensitively (Moon) to gradually adjust and contextualize your experience for growth leading to a place of personal power (Pluto at the release point).

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posted June 29, 2011 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Taineberry:
Xiiro - I'll give it a try! Yod's are so bittersweet, and point to areas of potential spiritual enlightenment, because of the inherent yearning quality in them. They contain within them your personal holy grail.

First yod
You know you have a natural capacity to provide intensely nurturing and loving care in your relationships, especially when that innate compassion brings about transformational change to both parties, but why are you so afraid of losing the object of your loving-kindness? You will always have a yearning to express this part of yourself, but the paradox is that in order to keep love, you need to learn to let go of your desire to possess it. Realize that the deep unconditional love that resides in you is a quality that will never change and has merit in itself, regardless of fears about whether any one specific person stays or goes – it will remain as a beacon of light to those who need it. Adjustments to your perspective will be aided the wisdom (Jupiter) you gain from learning from your own painful experience (Chiron) and then using this to enhance your understanding.

2nd yod
In the past (or a past life) you came from a place where you had to stand alone to defend your rights aggressively without much help from others, and the memory of this still worries you on an unconscious level. While the instinct to be defend what is yours to the hilt is fated to have a lasting effect on you, you are also under strain to adjust your need to wage your own private war by learning to let be what is if it can’t be changed and then let it go. The underlying cause will never go away, but you can use your capacity for original thought (Uranus)to intuitively and sensitively (Moon) to gradually adjust and contextualize your experience for growth leading to a place of personal power (Pluto at the release point).


Fantastic work. I have been considering becoming a Buddhist monk for the past couple of years, and these two issues have been a major source of debate against making that decision. I struggle with a desire for exclusive love, and control over my own spiritual path. Hehe Sounds like these Yods should be my next things to focus on. =)
I appreciate the way you laid it out, it was helpful in understanding how the Yod works. Thanks for the clarity.

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posted June 29, 2011 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've an Yod between DC/MC/pluto house 2. My life work out good between work in another country and living in one another.

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posted June 29, 2011 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Xiiro for your feedback - glad to know it was helpful as it also helps me feel a bit more confident with interpretations! I am still only learning how to figure out these things. Best wishes regarding the unfolding of your Buddhist path.

Popcorn - That yod you have does seem to describe your living/working situation perfectly!!!

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posted July 01, 2011 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aethan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Taineberry:
Well, this is my attempt for you aethan :
Chiron in Gemini in the 2nd house at the apex of the yod may indicate that you have an innate understanding of how self-worth arises from the need to be heard and understood, because you have 1st hand experience of knowing what it is like to not be understood. As a result, you are able to help others, but finding the best way to do this requires constant refinement on your part which you can achieve by drawing on your capacity to generate transformational change (Pluto) in your professional capacity (midheaven) .

Well that sounds pretty accurate I think... I'm searching for a way to do all that. It's really hard and I'm in a daze.
Thanks so much for your take, I think you were bang on.

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posted July 01, 2011 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aethan - you are most welcome!

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posted July 01, 2011 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taineberry~ thanks!

I don't know if something else said this but how you view your relationships could be with Neptune in the 7th conj DC. (putting people on a ivory tower type thing...)

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posted July 02, 2011 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Racole12 ... Yes I am way too idealistic in relationships. Working on it though.

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posted July 03, 2011 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aethan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Taineberry:
aethan - you mentioned relationships??

Well, I used to have a strong tendency to put people on pedastals in relationships, maybe even idolize them, and then be devastated when they developed feet of clay. Eventually, the penny dropped - it was my expectations that causing the problem, not the behavior of the other person. So nowadays, I try very hard not to project my needs onto others, and keep my expectations very low – because if I don’t do this I always end up getting disillusioned and then it becomes a painful exercise to cut through all the illusion and face the way things really are (as opposed to the way I wanted them to be). Co-dependent situations are definitely anathema to me and I avoid them like the plague. The pursuit of authenticity in relationships devoid of illusion is my holy grail. However, behind this, I must confess that the concept of what I think an ideal relationship should be remains a siren call and I yearn for it, and I have an elaborate idea of what it should look like – but I don’t make the mistake any more of believing that it can really exist given the constraints of a material existence. Maybe this is the Neptune part of the yod? Learning to cut through illusions by recognizing what that what is ideal cannot be real, and what is real cannot be ideal. And making the necessary adjustments to accommodate both?


I forgot to answer you. I think the points you make are good, especially because I believe we're meant to make the best of our charts. It's not completely negative that you're idealistic when it comes to relationships. You probably attract people because you're like that. Maybe the problem is the people you're attracting. Maybe if you learn to deal with this, you'll attract the right people, and then you'll be able to have what your yod is asking for. That's a lot of maybes LOL but I think it's a romantic major aspect, in your case. You should try to make the best of it.

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posted July 04, 2011 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aethan - yep, I fear that I am way too much of a romantic idealist, especially with Neptune conjuncting moon and black moon lilith (not shown on chart) and opposing Venus/mercury! And it also squares Saturn - not my crowning glory - in 10th and Karma in 4th (also not shown on chart), which combined form a scary grand cross.

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