posted June 29, 2011 10:47 AM            

Please tell me how your Jupiter FEELS and functions.
Please satisfy my Gemini with details if you can lol

posted June 29, 2011 01:06 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
cool link!

mine..

Jupiter in Capricorn/10th house. Jupiter in Capricorn/10th house combines the idealism of Jupiter with the realism of Saturn (the ruler of Capricorn). You are the “practical idealist” who has the ability to manifest and bring your dreams down to earth. Since you are working with the universal principles of expansion (Jupiter) and contraction (Saturn), it’s important to create a balance so you can grow and expand in a sustainable way.

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Mine's also in Capricorn, and I have to say, what is said up there surely rings true. I'm very realistic in my dreams. I don't aim at something I'm certainly never going to be able to achieve because it's just pointless to focus energy on a dream that is impossible.

But mine is in 2nd house:

Jupiter in Taurus/2nd House. Jupiter in Taurus/2nd House re-connects you with the wisdom of the natural world. Jupiter in Taurus calls you to learn from the wisdom of your body and the earth. Jupiter in Taurus is the natural ecologist who helps us see how inter-connected we are with the planet. The esoteric ruler of Taurus is the earth so Jupiter in Taurus helps you expand your consciousness through tuning into the wisdom of earth-based or indigenous spirituality.

Interestingly, I do have a serious thing for botanism, but have killed just too many plants. I swear, I'm building up bad karma solely from the graveyard of plants and herbs I've left in my wake... But yeah. I've always had a soft spot for druidism, herbalism and botanism. Now only to be able to actually keep plants alive. In theory I know exactly what to do, it's just that it won't really work in practice

I never thought the "realistic dreams" thing and the Earth-based spirituality thing could have come from my 2nd house Capricorn Jupiter... Which is also a singleton by the way (if you only count major objects)

But, despite it being a singleton (with no other object or aspect influencing it so it's in it's raw state) and my chart's ruler, I have no clue either as to how it influences me.

I have read somewhere that Jupiter also signifies culture. And probably also the Sagittarian topics

posted June 29, 2011 04:17 PM            

My reaction to that went from "Yeah, that's never going to happen if you keep drinking away your money and wasting it on stuff you don't need" (how Capricorn of me ) through "Stop dreaming like that, it's never going to happen if you only dream and don't act" all the way to "I don't care what you do anymore. If you want to p*** away money, just fine. Just don't involve me or your son in it."

He was also a big fan of Scarface. I never understood that, even after my ex explained that it's a hopeful story about a man who started off with nothing and fought his way up. My only response was: "So you want to be like Scarface? You want to end up going paranoid from doing too much coke and getting yourself killed in a police raid? Nice dream, keep on dreaming that."

Okay, now I can see why people sometimes call me a cynic

I live with the idea that if you window shop with your imaginary money before you have ever aquired it, it jinxes the possibility of ever having that money. It's like people who play the lottery. They always dream about how they're going to spend it and it really annoys me, because in the end, their chances of winning are astronomically small. Sure, you never know, but 999.999.999 times out of a million, you're going to be disappointed when it turns out you havent won... again.

Then again, I'm very... emm... frugal. I don't buy things I don't need just because it shows status. I just don't see the point in that. Could be a result of having Capricorn on the 2nd house cusp, though

posted June 29, 2011 05:51 PM            

I'm not sure about Jupiter being looked at as the Moon, I've always been taught that it was a higher octave of the Sun and I'm still kind of stuck with that idea. But I would also think that with ethics, Jupiter shows how you deal with it rather than saying you do/don't have them. Then again, I don't believe in charts saying you do/don't have qualities, I really believe rather that all positions tell you how you deal with the qualities you have...

But for "unethical" I think you could look at the opposite sign of where Jupiter is, and draw conclusions from that - that since Jupiter is in sign A, it has other fields of ethics which don't mix with the field of ethics of sign B which is opposite sign A... for example. Yeah, I think it could work that way.

In which case my Jupiter opposing Cancer says it all I'm pretty much ruthless in the ethics department.

@sand - I don't consider him so much older than myself, but he is 9 years my senior. His Jupiter is conjunct his Moon in Aries.

posted June 29, 2011 06:18 PM            

For example, with my Jupiter in Capricorn I am quite ruthless ethically and I follow rules strictly. This makes that I show no empathy for each "situation" on its own and that I probably don't show much mercy (it is different in practice, it all depends on the situation, but generally, this does go up for me) ~ which would be Cancer's field. Cancer shows empathy and mercy if need be and is more human-oriented than law or rule-oriented.

That's from my p.o.v. anyway

posted June 29, 2011 06:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok This is my question--in the no mince words way
Would the Jupiters be kind of like the moons in that the Jupiters in "cold" signs such as Cap would be more unethical?
Would Jupiter in Leo be unethical due to being self centered.
What I am asking is can Jupiter be looked at as the moon ?
For example. Jupiter in Pisces and Cancer would be ethical.
Jupiter in Taurus may put security before ethics
Jup in Gem could put fun before ethics.
Do you see what I mean?
PLEASE ,no one start a fight with me and tell me YOU are ethical
I am trying to learn here and be real

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I haven't seen Jupiter that way in my observations. Jupiter is geologically a warm planet and I believe that passes over in Astrology. Astrologically, Jupiter is likened to a generous uncle or a playful benefactor. He gives freely regardless of consequence, because he believes enjoyment of the moment makes us better people. Jupiter's �job� is to uplift, expand, add-to, and evolve. Of course the sign will modify how Jupiter achieves those goals, but I think (like mars adds to the energy of a sign) Jupiter lends a lighthearted note to the sign through which it manifests.

Take Jupiter in Capricorn:

This Jupiter is restricted, in stead of just explosively expanding, it grows outward in steady methodical layers. This Jupiter focuses on expanding the native's usefulness and structures. The native evolves through collection of usable experiences and data, they believe productivity results in reward, so they do things like �invest in their future� and �study for a degree�. HOWEVER... Jupiter must love the �Saturday Effect� in Capricorn. Saturn rules Saturday, which is the day we reap the benefits from our hard work. Jupiter in Cap people are driven to succeed based on how �Good� the results are. They don't waste time dreaming about it, they look at what they have, calculate what they should have in the future, then work hard to make that happen. Jupiter Capricorn may find a joy in the process of bettering or expanding their selves too.

Or Jupiter in Aquarius (the ice queen):

Jupiter here expands imaginatively, and somewhat erratically. This person evolves through random experiences (some times shocking or displacing experiences). This Jupiter would focus on expanding the native's imagination and could easily include a desire for the evolution of the group. Talk about quantum physics, this Jupiter is capable of imagining how it all works. This is the closest to unethical I think you may be able to get with Jupiter, as ideas focused on evolving society (like Eugenics, cloned food, technological implants, and genetic modification) are interesting to the native. It really depends on the aspects. You could also have a Jupiter in Aquarius who knows the unethical use of science doesn't expand our society, but desensitizes us in the long run. Aquarius has the luxury of being capable of imagining flying the planet into a black hole just to experience it, as well as the ability to rationalize the fact that flying the planet into a black hole may be frustrating to others (and ultimately results in lack of human evolution).

Jupiter in Leo:

Here Jupiter turns it's eye back to the Sun (someone should have told him not to stare directly at that thing). This native learns by improving their self. They see their environment as it relates to their own expressions. Jupiter would love to use the loyal quality of Leo (though it wouldn't let loyalty weigh it down from expanding). All learning experiences, interactions, and occurrences translate to the Jupiter in Leo as lessons pertaining to their own expansion. Leo uses the Persona (the shell built by Cancer to give distinction between what is �self� and what is �environment�) As a tool to interact with their environment and collect data. A Leo Jupiter wants to be the best they can be. Even though their ultimate goal is to better the self, this planetary placement infuses the native with an almost endless supply of energy for uplifting others. This native is the type of person capable of bringing people together and enhancing everyone's experience through creativity and playfulness. Petting these natives and telling them how good of a job they did is key to their appreciation, not because they are selfish, but because appreciation is an indicator to their Jupiter that the experience is good enough to add to their learning experiences. The better the Leo, the better the party, the better the party, the more we can all enjoy our selves.

posted June 29, 2011 06:48 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
your jupiter in cap does show. but jupiter in the 2nd is supposed to be lucky-ish anyway. i have uranus der as an unaspected singleton. sometimes it just goes poof! $ gone lol!

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In fact, this might sound strange but... When I play the lotto (or play scratch cards, which I often picked consciously because they were more likely to win me something), I won quite often. I'm just not the type to play the lotto every time, loyally like everyone else does (or most people, don't want to generalize ). I just feel it's a waste of money because the chances of winning are just too small compared to how much money you put in.

Contrary to that, I do enjoy playing casino games, though. I often win with those too (must remember to actually go to a casino instead of playing them with friends, friends never pay up ) but I also wouldn't play them if I didn't have money to spare. Also I'm well aware of the tricks casinos pull to make sure they don't have to pay up, so it's probably better to keep on playing casino games with friends. Or pick up Texas Hold'Em and win a local tournament or something, to win money

Okay, now my 2nd house/Cap Jupiter is showing in full glory

posted June 30, 2011 07:59 AM            

I am so against cloning and many other aspects of science, especially genetics. In fact, it'll usually be me that takes a strong stance in debates over stuff like that. I can be seriously aloof and I can easily detach from my personal opinions when I need to but I frequently find myself in arguments with those who feel that technology and science hold all the answers. And I've got uranus in the 11th.

I don't care much for peoples feelings when it comes to the truth or if I have an overwhelming desire to communicate and that has certainly helped me with the ice queen label

I've got moon in the 5th (leo's house) which trines onto a sun/merc in the 9th(sag house) in leo. My leo merc in the 9th is in opp to jupiter in aquarius. I see the science v nature things more easily than most and I actually quite like this particular aspect.

posted June 30, 2011 09:59 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
hmm.. i think a lot of my pet peeves stem from jupiter in cappy now that i'm thinking bout it. another thing i hate are kinda loser-y dudes that have their pic taken with hot girls that are paid to take pics with sed loser-y dudes. what's the point of that really? i dunno maybe i'm weird but i find that regular behavior to be so weird and kinda pathetic. must be my jupiter trining venus but being pessimistic in cappy or something. i should look into that.

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I find it pathetic as well, but realisticly speaking there is *cringe* a point to it. Which is one of my other pet-peeves: the influence of status in our society. Strange that it would be a pet peeve of mine because if anything, status is a typical Capricorn thing. But I hate the influence that status has on us and how people try in every way possible to make it look like they have status and... often even succeed in fooling other people while it is so obvious they are simply faking it. But what I hate more is that an imaginary thing such as status, which wouldn't even exist if we didn't keep on giving it the power, can make people do such things. It's really not worth all the effort. You don't take your status with you in death, we are all equal when we're 6 feet under. But people, like those losers who get their pictures taken with gorgeous girls just to show "hey, I can hook me one of these!" (well, if the bait is money, you can hook most people... ), still live towards status... I suppose money still makes the world go round. And with money, comes status. Argh. I hate that abstract thing. I hate status. I'd kill it if it didn't already not really exist to begin with

posted June 30, 2011 10:04 AM            

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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
Ami, Jupiter is also significant in how we see our "God". It represents our higher mind, that part of our mind which is concerned with beliefs and our philosophy on life. the sign and aspects will give more detailed info.

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