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Xiiro
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posted July 04, 2011 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm interested to hear about people's experiences with this aspect. The exact angle is 32 degrees, 43 minutes 7 seconds. The largest orb I would give this aspect is 1-0 degrees (so an angle of plus or minus 32-34 degrees).

It apparently indicates psychic gifts or affinity with technology. It's one eleventh of a circle, so associated with the 11th Harmonic, Aquarius, and Uranian energy.

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starcrossedleo
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posted July 04, 2011 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starcrossedleo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto undecile Moon but not sure how that affects me

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Taineberry
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posted July 05, 2011 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have too much experience with this aspect, but have read that "The basic principle underlying the 11th Harmonic Aspect or Undecile Series of aspects is the need for a capacity for reconciling opposites or dualities; and, when handled well, the potential to develop such a capacity. When handled badly, the Undeciles are associated with a tendency to react strongly, even excessively, to ambiguous or double-bind situations, either with excessive enthusiasm or excessive opposition. A double-bind is when you are getting conflicting messages from people or events, and you are in a dilemma how to respond. Strong undeciles present in your chart bring the possibility that, when confronted by such situations, you plunge ahead on one side or the other, rather than seek to avoid or resolve the conflict.
The presence of strong undecile aspects in an individual's chart is often to be linked with the practice of ritual magic. Much of the work of Ritual Magic deals with the balancing or reconciling of polarities and dualities, which are often very ambiguous in nature. Unless practised at a merely superficial or superstitious level, such as is found in popular books on the subject, the field of magic is filled with double-binds. A principal requirement is to be able to go ahead on your journey and maintain your balance, despite having only ambiguous maps as a guide and travelling through shifting mists and over unsteady ground."

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Xiiro
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posted July 05, 2011 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Taineberry:
I don't have too much experience with this aspect, but have read that "The basic principle underlying the 11th Harmonic Aspect or Undecile Series of aspects is the need for a capacity for reconciling opposites or dualities; and, when handled well, the potential to develop such a capacity. When handled badly, the Undeciles are associated with a tendency to react strongly, even excessively, to ambiguous or double-bind situations, either with excessive enthusiasm or excessive opposition. A double-bind is when you are getting conflicting messages from people or events, and you are in a dilemma how to respond. Strong undeciles present in your chart bring the possibility that, when confronted by such situations, you plunge ahead on one side or the other, rather than seek to avoid or resolve the conflict.
The presence of strong undecile aspects in an individual's chart is often to be linked with the practice of ritual magic. Much of the work of Ritual Magic deals with the balancing or reconciling of polarities and dualities, which are often very ambiguous in nature. Unless practised at a merely superficial or superstitious level, such as is found in popular books on the subject, the field of magic is filled with double-binds. A principal requirement is to be able to go ahead on your journey and maintain your balance, despite having only ambiguous maps as a guide and travelling through shifting mists and over unsteady ground."

Wow, fantastic description, thank you. Do you have any suggestions for resources I can use to study further. I have been playing with the 12 Harmonics and would like further information regarding the more obscure aspects.

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Taineberry
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posted July 05, 2011 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The quote I used was from Michael Freedman. There a lot on the net, but these books are probably the best:

-Harmonics in Astrology - John Addey,
-New Study of Astrology - John Addey
-Harmonic Charts - David Hamblin
-Working With Astrology: The Psychology of Midpoints, Harmonics & Astro*Carto*Graphy - Michael Harding & Charles Harvey
-Astrologer's guide to the Harmonics - James S Williamson
-New Astrologer - Martin Seymour-Smith

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MsCandeh
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posted July 05, 2011 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My only undecile is Mercury undecile Chiron (33.57 deg - too wide?)

about to go find out what this means!!

I work in IT and I wouldn't say I am psychic but I have strong intuition and dreams... I use astrology as a guidance tool.

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is the need for a capacity for reconciling opposites or dualities; and, when handled well, the potential to develop such a capacity. When handled badly, the Undeciles are associated with a tendency to react strongly, even excessively, to ambiguous or double-bind situations, either with excessive enthusiasm or excessive opposition. A double-bind is when you are getting conflicting messages from people or events, and you are in a dilemma how to respond.

Totally me just yesterday. It's a good way to make people ****** off with you (strong reactions).

Also find it interesting that my chart is full of oppositions (see saw chart) and my Mercury (that is being undeciled by Chiron) is opposing my Pluto by 2 degrees. hmm

Thanks for the references Tainberry, I haven't even begun to study harmonics yet! Might have to soon!!

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MsCandeh
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posted July 05, 2011 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually I would say that when you are receiving conflicting messages or you are in a dilemma you can make people frustrated with you because you aren't sure who is the good guy and who is the bad guy, or is it you or what? Then something tips it to more one side and you go with that side and react strongly to the decision (positively or negatively) only later to find out that you were overreacting the whole time when you should have just played it cool.

I think the lesson to be learned is to PLAY IT COOL

Very hard for a fixed sign person who likes to feel the firm, flat ground she is walking on!


Whether this is as strong in me compared to someone who has several, I'm not sure, but I definitely relate to this feeling and in fact is a big issue I deal with in my life (I always attributed it to Sun opp Mars, and Venus opp Saturn, and Mercury opp Pluto).

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