posted July 05, 2011 06:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Taineberry:
I don't have too much experience with this aspect, but have read that "The basic principle underlying the 11th Harmonic Aspect or Undecile Series of aspects is the need for a capacity for reconciling opposites or dualities; and, when handled well, the potential to develop such a capacity. When handled badly, the Undeciles are associated with a tendency to react strongly, even excessively, to ambiguous or double-bind situations, either with excessive enthusiasm or excessive opposition. A double-bind is when you are getting conflicting messages from people or events, and you are in a dilemma how to respond. Strong undeciles present in your chart bring the possibility that, when confronted by such situations, you plunge ahead on one side or the other, rather than seek to avoid or resolve the conflict.
The presence of strong undecile aspects in an individual's chart is often to be linked with the practice of ritual magic. Much of the work of Ritual Magic deals with the balancing or reconciling of polarities and dualities, which are often very ambiguous in nature. Unless practised at a merely superficial or superstitious level, such as is found in popular books on the subject, the field of magic is filled with double-binds. A principal requirement is to be able to go ahead on your journey and maintain your balance, despite having only ambiguous maps as a guide and travelling through shifting mists and over unsteady ground."

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posted July 05, 2011 09:49 AM            

about to go find out what this means!!

I work in IT and I wouldn't say I am psychic but I have strong intuition and dreams... I use astrology as a guidance tool.

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is the need for a capacity for reconciling opposites or dualities; and, when handled well, the potential to develop such a capacity. When handled badly, the Undeciles are associated with a tendency to react strongly, even excessively, to ambiguous or double-bind situations, either with excessive enthusiasm or excessive opposition. A double-bind is when you are getting conflicting messages from people or events, and you are in a dilemma how to respond.

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Totally me just yesterday. It's a good way to make people ****** off with you (strong reactions).

Also find it interesting that my chart is full of oppositions (see saw chart) and my Mercury (that is being undeciled by Chiron) is opposing my Pluto by 2 degrees. hmm

posted July 05, 2011 09:57 AM            

I think the lesson to be learned is to PLAY IT COOL

Very hard for a fixed sign person who likes to feel the firm, flat ground she is walking on!

posted January 08, 2022 12:08 AM            

I feel really calm and at peace today, I am really connecting with the bigger picture this past week. I keep thinking people get so worked up about so many things but in the end the universe was literally created from nothing, from a void so even if a comet hits the earth and wipes out the whole planet we are one big bang away from being reborn and coming back into existence, yes it may look differently how we come back into existence but the point is that we were not in control when we came into existence and we will not be in control when we cease to exist nor how and when we come back into existence so why stress about this and that and this and that; just enjoy the moments of peace in your life and learn to ride out the waves that come your way, control is an illusion and chaos is the one thing that is predictable. We are obsessed with trying to predict and control the future yet we cannot predict or control the future.

"As a complex system evolves over time, each iteration of the system – each of the system’s cycles or outputs – provides a new condition that feeds back into the system. This is what J.A. Scott Kelso in Dynamic Patterns (1995) refers to as ‘circular causation’. We are only now coming to see that many significant natural processes, such as those involved in climate change, do not proceed in a linear fashion, but instead turn in upon themselves, amplifying or dampening their own effects, and redirecting themselves. Each new iteration sets the context for the next iteration. New phenomena may be created." http://philosophynow.org/issues/114/Chaos_and_An_Unpredictable_Tomorrow

I have had a very strong affinity with chaos theory intuitively since I was a small child even though I was not exposed to this I would think about chaos theory and the butterfly effect.

^^Jupiter my chart ruler conjuncts URANUS and falls in the 12th and it is also my SOUTHNODE ruler, I think this explains why I was born with this wisdom, why it was innate for me/intuitive yet I have simultaneously have had some important lessons to learn around this bc I have Saturn in scorpio Undecile my Jupiter conjunct Uranus.

Saturn in scorpio needs to feel in control and take control but this undecile to Jupiter and Uranus in the 12th is about flowing and adapting, not getting attached to an outcome and learning to embrace the unpredictable nature of life, including unpredictable endings, learning to surrender to this instead of fighting it and trying to control it

This undecile perhaps gives me the gift of manifestation but it also wants to teach me to not get attached to outcomes and flow with life instead of trying to control the outcome, it wants to teach me to accept life's unpredictable nature and not fall a victim of it but thrive despite it and marble in its mystery.

Transits today:
Tr Venus and SUN conjunct my HARMONIA
Tr Mars conjunct my SOUTHNODE
Tr MOON in pisces at 29 degrees (perhaps the ultimately degree of surrender, you are not in control) conjunct my EARTH
Tr SUN in Cappy trine exact my mercury/northnode ruler.
Tr JUPITER in the 3rd house square my chart ruler JUPITER conjunct URANUS in the 12th.
Tr JUPITER in Pisces trine my SATURN

Natal Saturn Undecile natal Jupiter conjunct Uranus (33 degree aspect)

In a nutshell, Scorpio deals with our desires and this undecile from saturn in scorpio to my chart ruler jupiter conjunct uranus in the 12th helps me manifest my desires but it also wants me to surrender and not try to control the outcome and flow with life.

posted January 08, 2022 04:07 AM            

Taineberrys post reminded me of this meme:

posted January 08, 2022 11:18 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Hypatia,
Thank you! Yours looks so poetic. I need to digest this and look at mine closer. Yet I haven't recognized anything aside from asteroids so perchance mine are not of any significant meaning. Yet to see them yesterday, it seemed so. You write yours out so beautifully.

btw Happy New Year.

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Happy new year's to you too girl!!!!!!

posted March 27, 2022 02:36 AM            

In composite we have EROS conjunct PSYCHE/ISIS and VENUS conjunct MARS all in VIRGO so quite the stellium.

In DAVISON we have ISIS conjunct OSIRIS and ALMA (soul) and that falls right on EROS conjunct PSYCHE/ISIS from COMPOSITE, then all that conjuncts my natal ATLANTIS and opposes his natal Atlantis. In DAVISON we also have SIVA conjunct JUNO/PARVATI and this falls on the Mars conjunct VENUS in composite, all this in VIRGO.

Add TRANSIT PSYCHE is activating the Eros conjunct Psyche and ISIS conjunct OSIRIS/ALMA.

I suppose I am trying to understand the eros undecile psyche in our synastry, for us is a double bind situation it seems. Novile is a soulmate/twin flame aspect and undecile can be about double bind situations and we have EROS and PSYCHE in the mix, sure feels like a trial/test, will double bind situation be handled correctly? but for what is worth I feel we are playing it cool, we both have come a long way with our internal work and so I think this is why and he seems to be ready for whatever trials come our way.

posted March 27, 2022 03:06 AM            

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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
Actually I would say that when you are receiving conflicting messages or you are in a dilemma you can make people frustrated with you because you aren't sure who is the good guy and who is the bad guy, or is it you or what? Then something tips it to more one side and you go with that side and react strongly to the decision (positively or negatively) only later to find out that you were overreacting the whole time when you should have just played it cool.

I think the lesson to be learned is to PLAY IT COOL

Very hard for a fixed sign person who likes to feel the firm, flat ground she is walking on!

Whether this is as strong in me compared to someone who has several, I'm not sure, but I definitely relate to this feeling and in fact is a big issue I deal with in my life (I always attributed it to Sun opp Mars, and Venus opp Saturn, and Mercury opp Pluto).

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Interesting insight, kind of like don't over-react one way or another to the double bind situation, remain balanced and play it cool, kind of like take your time, slow down and wait until your instincts make it clear how to proceed?