posted July 05, 2011 02:28 AM            

3/19/1986
Warren, Ohio
http://astropost.blogspot.com/2011/06/chart-with-time-of-birth-for-casey.html

posted July 06, 2011 09:49 PM            

Reckless, expolsive temper, rebellious, does not conform to rules...

posted July 06, 2011 11:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
In my experience no air in a chart is far from detached, and she has the moon in the 11th to make up for some of it but it's not much, it could be akin to an aqua moon, she needs to be in groups to have social acceptance and the friends may be closer than the family.

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No Air is NOT detached--right. Air IS detachment. Am I right Lonake?

posted July 06, 2011 11:58 PM            

Interestingly, that eclipse from last week was right on her moon. And the one before that was on your Mars/Uranus conjunction and Mars rules her 9th house. AND the one before that was on her Saturn/Chiron opposition.

The stars are definitely aligned in her favor. Also, Mars conjuncts the first eclipses degree now, coinciding with her not guilty verdict. we'll see what happens when it transits the rest of the eclipse degrees over the next month or so.

posted July 07, 2011 05:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
No Air is NOT detached--right. Air IS detachment. Am I right Lonake?

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posted July 07, 2011 05:10 AM            

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Originally posted by scrappydog:
Another person who did her chart has her birth time listed as 6:33 am in niles, ohio. That makes her a double pisceas and more interestingly her mars moves to a zero deg conj with her mc, which might speak of her fame(or infamy) from something violent(mars). Also makes her mars uranus square stronger, but I'm not sure what birth time is correct.

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Was this a rectification or a direct source, like a family member for example?

posted July 07, 2011 06:36 AM            

Transiting Karma #3811 is currently 29'19 Aries and her NN sits at 00'25 Taurus.
So she is definitely meant to be going through this and it is essential to her soul's growth. Her NN is in the 9th house of legal matters in the 3:10pm chart, as well as of course t.Karma & t.Jupiter. Natal Venus for 3:10pm is in the 9th as well, trine to n.Saturn in the 4th.

And transiting NN is currently 23'16 Sagittarius, this is conj her n.Mars/Uranus located in the 5th house of children for this chart as well. It's also sq her n.Sun/Uranus Pisces conj in the 8th.

t.Saturn in the 3rd opp n.Venus, she's obviously feeling the blow of the public backlash and may feel rejected around this time, Saturn is 3 degrees away from making it exact to 13 Aries Venus. The oppostion of Venus/Saturn is reaching out to others and expecting oppenness but instead receiving coldness, so they're rejected from the outside, either that or they outright reject others for no reason, [the square feels rejected even if others are on their side, they reject from the inside from negative past conditioning, so the opp is different even though its still a hard aspect, there's a difference as to where the rejection originates, the square is self rejection.] t.Saturn in the 3rd makes one careful of their words, and also allows in negative critical remarks from the outside whenever the native speaks out of turn or stammers, etc. So she'll feel based on this chart that her words need to be clear if she doesn't want to face complete and utter rejection. Her natal Venus in the 9th actually looks good for her criminal case here and it also rules h3 of communication and journeys.

t.Saturn (natal ruler of h6) opp n.Venus (natal ruler of h3 and h10) show that her daily habits (h6) and maybe even health will be in some kind of jeopardy due to her communications (h3) and social standing (h10), so this issue fits quite well, altho like I said the opp is still 3 degree off from exact. If she is released into the community tomorrow it would spell out strongly for her that she needs to make careful (Saturn) movements in the neighborhood (h3) and plan (Saturn) her trips (h3) with care and precision (n.Saturn ruling h6 of schedules). Saturn will be in her 3rd with this chart anyway for a good while, avg about 2 yrs maybe more, so this is something new that will be on her mind for a while as she has never before had Saturn t. the 3rd (pre-Saturn return age of 25).

So there are some things with this chart that fit for me. There's also another site that mentions this birth time that I saw in a search engine, but it is an astro members only site (a msg board) that I don't really want to sign up for, it is in Astrology Weekly, at their site, so if interested there is some kind of info there on this time. And that was published before the Astro Blog that I posted above, as the link is more recent.

The Venus in Aries in the 9th keeps coming up to me, because it is also a big player being the NN ruler. SN is in the 3rd, and it is actually conj its ruler, Pluto. Pluto in the 3rd conj SN, also the IC, with Pluto ruling the 4th suggests to me that she has been with her family for more lifetimes than this one, and that the saga she has with them is just a continued replay of karmic debt. Really deep and huge debts all around. Definitely issues of manipulating and being manipulated while growing up, for sure. The lies may actually be part of this manipulation ploy from her side and of her family, a way of keeping control, and they just grew until they have just engulfed the family in obviously a very sick way, none of them escaped this mess.

Continuing with 3:10pm,
Pluto in Scorpio conj IC is of course staple for trauma in the family home, more than anything this person wanted a stable home environment and they just could not have it because the rug was pulled out from under them in one way or another, Pluto conj IC also likes to rule the roost, and they also have a parent who dominates the family, likely the father, but could just as easily be the mother, and this is where Pluto/IC bumps heads with that family member, it is a power struggle. Pluto IC (and here is a replay of it with Scorp IC and Pluto in Scorp) says 'this is how the family should be run, and if its not run this way then I want my part of it to be run this way and no one will intrude or they will be sorry.' Also they are fiercely protective of their own, their children, the family members that they held dearest, not all of course and Pluto IC has no problem in cutting ties with those who act in a way that they deem to be disrespectful or not what 'family' should do. Pluto can be called the 'mafia' planet, you're either in the family or out and if you're out you stay out, and if you're in then they have your back.
But Pluto is not in the 4th, it is only conj the Ic, it actually rests in the 3rd, this is the real manipulation placement, esp in Scorp. Very keen on what others want to believe with the Pisces Sun/Mercury placed in the 8th. Sun/Mercury to Uranus gives a quick facile mind, albeit with some rather odd reactions included...the square is in Fire/Water so they are dramatic reactions and likely to seem abrupt/carefree/playful (esp with the Leo rising). Sun/Uranus is never here to go along with 'status quo' and Casey has definitely portrayed that. Another aspect of Sun/Uranus esp the hard aspects is feeling different for one reason or another and/or alienated, so really --there is no draw-- to be what society expects, they feel they should play out their rebel role until the end of time as it suits them, they're already on the outside why not just 'go for it'. Sun/Mercury in the 8th can read others weaknesses. Pluto in the 3rd knows what the other wants to hear and will manipulate accordingly, often rather strategically, esp with the Pluto being in Scorpio. Again, Pluto in this chart rules the 4th, so this is a 'family inheritance' here. She was manipulated strategically, possibly for sadistic purposes (we're seeing negative Scorpio here so the possibilities are really very ugly), definitely at least verbally abused (h3) and her mentality (h3) houses this memory, and they were implanted and that is just what she learned, this is how you go about, you look for people's weak spots, you use them to your advantage for personal gain, and you have your strategy and wits about you at all times for personal armor because if you let your guard down then other people will have you under *their* thumb and you -never- want to go back to that.
Pluto is where we have our losses that we hope to regain and go back to happier times and to just always keep trying, it's where we're obsessed. With Pluto in the 3rd obviously there's a huge burden with communicating and simple daily travels, something gets in the way (here lies, manipulation, see h3 ruler Venus loose square to Neptune, Neptune being h8 ruler). God this girl......she has Mercury in the 8th, Pluto in the 3rd, and h3 ruler square ruler of h8. That is 3 indicators for manipulation. There's the rule, if it's 3 then it's a guarantee. Her lies are out of strategic manipulation in an effort for no one else to have power over her mind except for herself, they are out of fear and of a strong sense of self protection. She is also incredibly suspicious and can smell BS from a million miles away, she knows how to talk herself into and out of many different situations. Pluto in Gemini's house is actually very facile, quick with the self protective maneuvers. I don't worry about her safety so much anymore now seeing this. Of course Pluto rules partially over murder and violence as well, so it could speak to murder in the community or her words having a dagger like effect, intense research, encountering intense individuals on a daily basis, there are so many interpretations, but I do believe with this chart that she will be able to smell a potential predator very keenly, that is if a crazed member of the public unhappy with the verdict decides to have one over on her. If you believe this birth time and you want a reason for the lies, there it is. To add to it, the classic Neptune hard aspect a personal planet (Moon opposed Neppy), and to add to the Neptune factor here, Moon also rules h12 of downfall, and opposed Neptune. Honestly, she will just never stop lying for some type of manipulation, I guess she could try, but really it is just not in the cards, this will be a lifelong battle for her, the reasons for her lies are so deep and took so many yrs to learn that to unlearn them would take huge psychological intervention (and this is a possibility actually as Pluto rules psychoanalysis and therapy, but she would need to think of it as a transformation, not just some kind of healing, Pluto needs to think in dramatic terms like this in order to see good results).