posted July 06, 2011 10:41 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
^well i'm not sure about the sun. i don't have rulerships memorized but i think mars there might be what i'm thinking of or maybe both or the sun in 10th i dunno.

so why alot of threads on 7th house venuses? is it harder if your venus is not in taurus but in the 7th? or are there a lot of harsh aspects to them?

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Well ,the 7th house IS Venus natural home so it makes for a happy Venus, I think.
We are talking house --only here ,though.

posted July 06, 2011 11:45 AM            

it's more that if someone challenges something I think then when I try and form a good argument for defense it comes out garbled and confused then i look like an eedjit. On paper is a different story, in person, not so much :P

posted July 06, 2011 03:57 PM            

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Sun in the seventh house

This Sun-in-the-seventh-house page and the entire website are excerpted from You and the Universe, a handmade, individualized fine art book on astrology, mythology and astronomy through which the recipient's complete astrological reading is woven.

The first of the social houses, the seventh house is opposed to the first house literally and in emphasis: in the first house we put our energies into the world; in the seventh the world puts energy back into us. The purpose of the seventh house is to bring about greater self-awareness through relating to what we experience as being outside of ourselves. This may in fact be energy within us that we have rejected out of fear or the need to experience it more objectively or externally. This is called projection, and we seek projected parts of ourselves in our intimate relationships.

Thus the seventh house rules intimate one-to-one relationships of all kinds (including marriage, business and counseling relationships), open enemies and conflicts, lawsuits and the lower courts. Planets in the seventh house indicate areas in our lives that need relationships to bring them out, and the houses ruled by seventh house planets are those "areas." Many planets here indicate many needs that we are looking for others to fill. In this case many relationships (or more than one marriage) is probable, as it’s unlikely that one individual would fill all those needs. Individuals with so much projected energy feel a void in their lives, and may encourage others to be dependent, or even pick fights rather than be alone.

The seventh house is that one-twelfth sector of the local sky just above the western horizon (see above picture) occupied by planets in the two hours just before they set.

In this incarnation you will be required to learn to consider and adjust to the needs and wishes of others: your partner in intimate one-to-one relationships will hold the power. This is a necessary condition that you chose as a disincarnate soul waiting to be born in order to learn the lessons that you need to learn. Don't fight it; it'll only be waiting for you around the corner until you learn what you have to learn. You love a social life: friends and relationships play a major role in your makeup.

If the Sun is within 12° of the descendant (seventh house cusp), then it is conjunct the descendant and much of the foregoing is even more strongly emphasized. If the Sun is in the sixth house AND within 4° or 5° of the descendant, then it is said to be on the "dark side" of the seventh house, and its influence will be felt in the seventh as well as in the sixth house. The closer a sixth house Sun is to the descendant, the more it will be interpreted as though it were in the seventh house; when less than 3° from the descendant, a sixth house Sun expresses itself primarily—and eventually entirely—in the seventh house.

Famous people born about the same time of day as you (Sun in the seventh house) are Warren Beatty, Annie Besant, Robert Cummings, Doris Day, Clint Eastwood, Mary Baker Eddy, Sigmund Freud, Katherine Hepburn, Hermann Hesse, Adolf Hitler, Dustin Hoffman, Jill St. John, Jack Kerouac, Carole Lombard, Elizabeth Montgomery, Debbie Reynolds, Linda Ronstadt, Omar Sharif and H. G. Wells.

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posted July 07, 2011 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
"except it might be opp pluto??"

venus-plutos are first lady aspects! lucky 4 u! not so much for me ehehe!

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I got Sun-Venus conjunct in Pisces, on the DC(Sun in 7th, Venus in 6th), both trine Pluto. I'm no first lady. Too much of a man hater to ever marry, I think.

I can very much resonate with what was posted about Sun and Venus in 7th.
I definitely suffered from extreem indecisiveness all of my life(22 now)and still have issues with it. What it said about every course of action be alright as long as nobody is harmed in the process very much explains how I saw things for most of my life.

Lucky for me, I was able to analyze myself really well from an early age, and understood I had these unhealthy tendencies.
The lack of self-love is very true. Even now, with people calling me beautiful, or funny, or nice to have around, I have no self love(Also have Saturn-Uranus-Neptune all conjunct in 4th house).
I am confident that I can manage to get that without compromising myself entirely for a relationship, though. It will take some time, but I can take charge of my own urges, like I've done with the rest of them.
I might end up a callous, cold, loveless individual, but at least, I'll be independent.lol
I must admit that for a very long time I couldn't help feeling worthless because nobody liked me(or never hit on me) especially in high school.
Interestingly enough, though, at the same time, I had a very strong fear of relationships and could never imagine myself in one, precisely because I felt I would be taken advantage of, because I was so emotionally vulnerable. I still haven't had a boyfriend, although I have recently realized that men DO find me attractive(well, some men, I mean) but don't approach me because I come across as rather "fancy"/arrogant. Must be the Virgo Rising, trine Saturn and Neptune.
That is actually very flattering to me, because it proves I don't come across as "easy".

Unfortunately, I think the problem with planets in the 7th is that you tend to attract selfish domineering people, who see you as a nice "side-dish" to their egos.(I mean, not automatically, but if you give course to that 7th house tendency of being "accomodating")
I have often hated people in general because of the way some(or most) treated me. I always saw myself as some kind of magnet for injustice.
It took me the better part of my 22 years to understand that I expect too much of people and that most of them are very much animals - if you act soft and try to maintain the peace, they see that as an invitation to walk all over you. Either that, or use you as a background, like I've said. I've always felt that with "friends", and I was probably right, that they just hang out with me because being around someone they perceived as inferior made them feel good about themselves. Of course, this could be also because I was overweight most of my life, not the 7th house placements.
Ever since I was very young, I always felt nobody would accept the real me, and I have just recently realized I had no genuine relationships and feel totally isolated.
That's what normally happens when you give up honest expression of self for maintaining "an image".
I actually read an article in pychology on this..that loneliness is always the result of focusing too much on creating and maintaining a social image.

posted July 07, 2011 12:38 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
"except it might be opp pluto??"

venus-plutos are first lady aspects! lucky 4 u! not so much for me ehehe!

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I got Sun-Venus conjunct in Pisces, on the DC(Sun in 7th, Venus in 6th), both trine Pluto. I'm no first lady. Too much of a man hater to ever marry, I think.

I can very much resonate with what was posted about Sun and Venus in 7th.
I definitely suffered from extreem indecisiveness all of my life(22 now)and still have issues with it. What it said about every course of action be alright as long as nobody is harmed in the process very much explains how I saw things for most of my life.

Lucky for me, I was able to analyze myself really well from an early age, and understood I had these unhealthy tendencies.
The lack of self-love is very true. Even now, with people calling me beautiful, or funny, or nice to have around, I have no self love(Also have Saturn-Uranus-Neptune all conjunct in 4th house).
I am confident that I can manage to get that without compromising myself entirely for a relationship, though. It will take some time, but I can take charge of my own urges, like I've done with the rest of them.
I might end up a callous, cold, loveless individual, but at least, I'll be independent.lol
I must admit that for a very long time I couldn't help feeling worthless because nobody liked me(or never hit on me) especially in high school.
Interestingly enough, though, at the same time, I had a very strong fear of relationships and could never imagine myself in one, precisely because I felt I would be taken advantage of, because I was so emotionally vulnerable. I still haven't had a boyfriend, although I have recently realized that men DO find me attractive(well, some men, I mean) but don't approach me because I come across as rather "fancy"/arrogant. Must be the Virgo Rising, trine Saturn and Neptune.
That is actually very flattering to me, because it proves I don't come across as "easy".

Unfortunately, I think the problem with planets in the 7th is that you tend to attract selfish domineering people, who see you as a nice "side-dish" to their egos.(I mean, not automatically, but if you give course to that 7th house tendency of being "accomodating")
I have often hated people in general because of the way some(or most) treated me. I always saw myself as some kind of magnet for injustice.
It took me the better part of my 22 years to understand that I expect too much of people and that most of them are very much animals - if you act soft and try to maintain the peace, they see that as an invitation to walk all over you. Either that, or use you as a background, like I've said. I've always felt that with "friends", and I was probably right, that they just hang out with me because being around someone they perceived as inferior made them feel good about themselves. Of course, this could be also because I was overweight most of my life, not the 7th house placements.
Ever since I was very young, I always felt nobody would accept the real me, and I have just recently realized I had no genuine relationships and feel totally isolated.
That's what normally happens when you give up honest expression of self for maintaining "an image".
I actually read an article in pychology on this..that loneliness is always the result of focusing too much on creating and maintaining a social image.