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Ami Anne
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posted July 13, 2011 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 2nd house is the house of material security.It involves self esteem ,too.
The second house is how we deal with with the physical world.how we navigate life on this earth plane,how we get the neccesities of life which we all need.

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posted July 13, 2011 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have jupiter conjunct chiron in cancer in the 2nd...any thoughts??

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

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Ami Anne
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posted July 13, 2011 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Ruler of the 2nd is in the 2nd--navigating this life is a prime focal point for you.
This house will be very important for you for your entire life.

If R of 2 is in the 3rd

You will get security from some form of communications.It could be talking or writing.
Your communication skills will provide material security.

R of 2 in 4

You can make money from your home or in home related things such as interior design or child care.
Catering and food preparation would be under this ,too, cuz they are domestic skills.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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sand
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posted July 13, 2011 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2nd house in sag. jupiter in 3rd.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 13, 2011 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
R of 2 in 5th

You will make money through hobbies or some kind of creative pursuit.
You will make money through something that is fun like being a clown.
You could make money from the world of romance such as running a dating servie.

R of 2 in 6

You will make money from practical service to others. This would be a more hands on type of service vs a more intellectual one.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 13, 2011 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 2nd house ruler is in my 4th.

Correct...I get my financial stability from home (my parents, especially dad...and guess what, my 2nd house ruler is JUPITER ) but i am working on becoming a graphic designer/web designer so I can work from home. And yes, I have worked in a LOT of cooking jobs.

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posted July 13, 2011 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:

If R of 2 is in the 3rd

You will get security from some form of communications.It could be talking or writing.
Your communication skills will provide material security.


funny, thats not true for me....2nd cusp in cancer, moon in 3rd

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

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posted July 13, 2011 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ruler of 2 in 7
You will make money from committed partnerships. This could be a spouse or with a long term business partner

R of 2 in 8th
You will make money from 8th house pursuits. This could be from looking deep within the mind as a shrink or deep within the mind of the criminal as a detective.
The 8th house rules anything hidden or taboo.


R of the 2 in the 9th

You will make money from spiritual, religious or philosophical pursuits.
This would be the Astrologer, college professor or religious leader.

This could be any job in Higher Ed.


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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 13, 2011 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH wait a minute...i think i just discovered what my moon in the third means...ami, as you know i'm studying japanese...maybe thats it....know where i'm going with it?? you should

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

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Ami Anne
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posted July 13, 2011 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
R of the 2nd in the 10th
You may make money from having some place of leadership in society.
This could be the politician.This could be the head of a company. This position confers leadership and responsibility over others.
You will have a solid place in society of which you will take pride.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted July 13, 2011 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
R of 2nd in 11th
You will make money in some service of giving to the greater society. It will be beyond your small world to the larger world in some way/
You want to know you make a difference as well as make a salary.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted July 13, 2011 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
R of 2nd in 12th

You will work in something that takes depth,sensitivity and perception
It could be a hospice, prison or hospital.
This is work most people could not do cuz it would bring them down.
Also, they would be speechless how to deal with things that are "outcasts" of society.
You have a special touch and feel for this.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted July 13, 2011 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NickiG:
OH wait a minute...i think i just discovered what my moon in the third means...ami, as you know i'm studying japanese...maybe thats it....know where i'm going with it?? you should


What house Cusp has Leo on it, Baby?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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NickiG
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posted July 13, 2011 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3rd

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

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posted July 13, 2011 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
R of 2nd in 11th
You will make money in some service of giving to the greater society. It will be beyond your small world to the larger world in some way/
You want to know you make a difference as well as make a salary.


quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
R of 2nd in 12th

You will work in something that takes depth,sensitivity and perception
It could be a hospice, prison or hospital.
This is work most people could not do cuz it would bring them down.
Also, they would be speechless how to deal with things that are "outcasts" of society.
You have a special touch and feel for this.


Hi, my 2nd house is in Pisces.

However, Neptune is at the end of House 11, how close to the cusp it is between 11 and 12 I am not sure. But both descriptions fit while I would take a few things off for both too. I am a blend.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 13, 2011 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NickiG:
3rd


Nicki What sign is on the 2nd house cusp? Which house is THAT ruling planet in?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted July 13, 2011 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NickiG:
funny, thats not true for me....2nd cusp in cancer, moon in 3rd


You get your material needs from communicating.THIS could be a language teacher --for sure

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 13, 2011 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eternallyoptimistic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the chart based on my birthplace, I have the ruler either in the 10th (Equal) or in the 9th (Placidus). But neither fits my current situation. Maybe I'll do something different in the future...

On the other hand, in my last relocation chart, the ruler is in the 4th. I work from home, so this fits. It looks like my future changed by relocating?

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R of the 2 in the 9th
You will make money from spiritual, religious or philosophical pursuits.
This would be the Astrologer, college professor or religious leader.
This could be any job in Higher Ed.

R of the 2nd in the 10th
You may make money from having some place of leadership in society.
This could be the politician.This could be the head of a company. This position confers leadership and responsibility over others.
You will have a solid place in society of which you will take pride.

R of 2 in 4
You can make money from your home or in home related things such as interior design or child care.
Catering and food preparation would be under this ,too, cuz they are domestic skills.



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Ami Anne
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posted July 13, 2011 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well House Rulers is only ONE level of chart interpretation .It will be modified by any planets in that house

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 13, 2011 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Are you going to do the other way around too Ami? As in, the rulers of the houses in the 2nd?

Would be good to have the two focuses on the 2nd house here(the ruler of the 2nd in the other houses, AND, the rulers of the houses in the 2nd), on the same thread. It would make it easier to analyse and compare.

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^ ruler of 4th house aquarius is in 2nd house then. that could be a long list for those with a lot of 2nd house planets.

this is spot on for me:

Ruler of the 4th house in the 2nd house
The activities of the 4th house serve the agenda of the 2nd house. Familial relationships, cultural inheritances, and family traditions serve our physical security and survival needs, for better or worse. The familial relationships we develop must meet our survival needs. Family, culture and tradition affect how physically secure we feel. Our cultural traditions are oriented to making money. The traditions we grew up with inform our values. Family tells us how we should make a living. Our capacity for quiet inner work is focused on creating financial security. We bring our private inner life to the realm of making a living. We have traditional views about money and personal values. Everything that went into building the foundation of our personality affects our feelings of grounded security. Our approach to finance is clan-conscious. We approach our value system with our cultural upbringing in mind. We like to make domestic purchases. We like buying things for the house. Family life creates the urge to own things. Having a family affects the way we look at money. Having a family makes us question our survival needs. Having a family gives shape to our personal values. We find emotional security through owning material things. Home is a place where we collect things. Home is a possession. Owning a home makes us feel physically secure. Our country should be a place that espouses our personal values. Our country is a place that should make us feel safe and should take care of our survival needs.


Read more: http://astrofix.net/2010/04/26/ruler-of-the-4th-house-in-houses/#ixzz1S38aOmo1

this one not so:

Ruler of the 2nd house in the 3rd house
The activities of the 2nd house serve the agenda of the 3rd house. Creating financial stability, defining personal values and accumulating possessions serve communication and information gathering. Your values give shape to your communication style. Your survival needs are always on your mind. Your survival needs impact your interactions with people on a daily basis. You earn a living by writing. The way that you earn money involves making local connections. You make ends meet by forming relationships with neighbors. You form neighborhood watch committees to feel safer. You use the local bank. You worry about the local economy. Your need to provide for yourself financially affects how you get along with siblings. Your values impact your local community. You have local values. You feel safer when you serve the local community. You bring your personal wealth to the local community. Personal money goes to siblings. Your siblings are you safety net. You spend money on communication gadgets. You spend money on your siblings. You give money to local schools. You buy things for the neighborhood kids. You earn a living by working at an elementary school. You make money from blogging.


Read more: http://astrofix.net/2010/04/21/ruler-of-the-2nd-house-in-houses/#ixzz1S39lYPF2

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posted July 14, 2011 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
R2 is in my 4th. Same again lol. I wouldn't mind a job in cooking though.

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posted July 14, 2011 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
H2 Ruler in H2,with Pluto on cusp- power through owning,money. Unbreakable. Obsessive about properties. Strong desires or sex drive. I noticed that men with this position often have hoarse voice.

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posted July 14, 2011 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like Mr Ed?

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posted July 14, 2011 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
R of 2 in 8th
You will make money from 8th house pursuits. This could be from looking deep within the mind as a shrink or deep within the mind of the criminal as a detective.
The 8th house rules anything hidden or taboo.


Being a detective sounds yummy.

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