posted July 14, 2011 09:39 PM            

The King of Jordan has his birthday here but from my own personal point of view is not the AntiChrist.

posted July 14, 2011 09:44 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Astrologers have been preparing us for the AntiChrist whom some believe was born during this 1962 Aquarius Stellium.

The King of Jordan has his birthday here but from my own personal point of view is not the AntiChrist.
http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/8fg6N6R582Q2.htm

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Well Biblically speaking, The Anti Christ is thought to be an apostate Jew.
The Bible verse which supports this is "he will not know the God of his fathers"
Also, Israel will prolly only trust a Jew with whom to sign the peace treaty where they will be naked , border wise.
So, with those criterion, it could not be the King of Jordan lol

posted July 14, 2011 09:55 PM            

if you know anything about Isreal then you know that a majority of what is now Isreal was once TransJordan.

That aside, I greatly admired his father King Hussein. He was a great man and he did a lot for Peace in his Country.

Being born a Catholic, I know very little about Jewish Religion and the AntiChrist of my youth looks an awful lot like my Grandmother.

posted July 14, 2011 09:58 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
King Abdullah's DOB is 1/30/62

if you know anything about Isreal then you know that a majority of what is now Isreal was once TransJordan.

That aside, I greatly admired his father King Hussein. He was a great man and he did a lot for Peace in his Country.

Being born a Catholic, I know very little about Jewish Religion and the AntiChrist of my youth looks an awful lot like my Grandmother.

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Well Biblically speaking,the Anti Christ has certain features.
These features allow us to exclude and include people.
I would stick with the Biblical guidelines which give several criterion that allows me to exclude people like Obama for example.
If people thought someone was the Anti Christ, he would have to fit these criteria for the Bible student to accept it.
I think the ACTUAL appearing of the Anti Christ on the world scene is when he signs the Peace treaty with Israel.This will be the ONLY time in history Israel will be unarmed and un-walled so it will be unique in all of Israels history.
The man who signs it WILL be the Anti Christ.

posted July 14, 2011 10:11 PM            

this is from the Tea Party thread in GU

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Michele Bachmann's Church Says the Pope Is the Antichrist http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/07/michel e-bachmanns-church-says-the-pope-is-the-antichrist/241909/

From the WELS "Doctrinal Statement on the Antichrist":

Since Scripture teaches that the Antichrist would be revealed and gives the marks by which the Antichrist is to be recognized, and since this prophecy has been clearly fulfilled in the history and development of the Roman Papacy, it is Scripture which reveals that the Papacy is the Antichrist.

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According to Michele Bachmann's church,
The Pope is the Anti-Christ and he is definately not Jewish.

What exactly are these marks?

posted July 14, 2011 10:19 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
I am so turned off by religion right now Ami, you will have to excuse me.

this is from the Tea Party thread in GU

According to Michele Bachmann's church,
The Pope is the Anti-Christ and he is definately not Jewish.

What exactly are these marks?

Love you Ami

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Well the Anti Christ will be a 3 part entity such as God is a 3 part entity as the Father,Son and Holy Spirit.
The Anti Christ is MIRRORING God.
Satan who is behind the Anti Christ wanted to BE God.
That is the theme behind all of Satan's fall and his history on the Earth

However,without going in to a lot of detail, the Anti Christ has three parts as God does.

The Catholic Church IS identified in the book of Revelation as the city which sits on 7 hills .It is the ONLY city which sits on 7 hills,
Rome is clearly identified as being part of the Anti Christ's 3 part system.
This IS in the Bible ,Lala

posted July 14, 2011 10:25 PM            

I may have a few things off cuz I have not studied Dave Hunt ,Hal Lindsey and Grant Jeffries for a few years but I have the general scheme right .

posted July 14, 2011 10:29 PM            

My only role is to share what I know of the Bible.
I feel a responsibility to do that.

posted July 14, 2011 10:39 PM            

Hate to say it but I've turned into a Biblical Athiest. Everything that is wrong with this world has it's roots in Religion.

To the fanatics Religion justifies war.

posted July 15, 2011 02:29 AM            

"I am thinking that he is a very verbal person.It is in the 5th house .He is very outspoken and direct with how he talks."
---Yes, true, also you're right the Saturn honing his speech so he makes sure he is correct, but this is in some ways, in other ways his actual mind takes a turn for the worse.

"He is very sexy,I KEEP feeling lol"
---I would say attraction/sexiness is in the eye of the beholder We were a couple for a while but I've since broken up with him and just started to delve into the chart, but in delving felt like I was gettin into sticky territory and that my thoughts and feelings about it would cloud things, I tried but quickly just felt like I needed another opinion and abruptly swam ashore back to land where it is more safe

"His chart ruler goes in to tbe 5th so fun, creativity and romance are HIS domains."
---Not sure I'd class him as romantic (maybe it's cos he's not romantic in the way I see romance to be), but he loves amusements. Not creative in the least, I had to literally bring him some art supplies one day and put the brush in his hand, I just wanted to see what sort of picture he'd make and he was certain it was gonna be horrible, so I guess it's that Saturn on Merc the self critical nature. He is also curiously the only person I've met who is anti-Fiction and only reads non fiction as Fiction to him is "fairy tales and nonsense" yet he owns about 5,000 films that are all fiction (!). You know what he does that could fit into this, he has all his movies cataloged, and routinely writes and calls to production companies to get his old favorite films back in print so that could be a h5 connection there.

"He has a fun ,wild and unpredictable vibe.
---However,he IS responsible.

He is not a total prolfligate at all.
He is sexy but a responsible person in life.
He breaks rules BUT follows them,you could say."
---Yes, v. responsible. How did you see this I wonder? There are a good number of rules he breaks but the ones he follows he is dead intent on making sure they're enforced.

"I love a really bad boy but who stops at Stop signs if you get my drift"
---I completely here, I know you were using a metaphor, but we always disagreed about yellow lights in the intersection, to me they meant speed up and to him they said 'slow down.' And he has a rebel sort of counterculture side to him re: govt & corps.

"He has low water.So,on top of Mars conj Mercury,he is not that sensitive to other's feelings."
---Check mark. But he is sensitive to his own pain, but does not like letting his emotions show. I heard and saw him cry, so it happens, but emotionally he can get really childish in that regard. Not THE reason I broke up with him but it was really interesting to see a man act in that way. I'm thinking the Moon in Taurus played a role there. I do not get along with the Taurus Moons in that way, they too stringently hold on to those they want, and I don't like feeling possessed by someone I really don't want. This is a good reminder for me to avoid them in the future, they're too simplistic, YET I keep attracting them ::noooo::
You know I saw Mars conj Merc at the outset but didn't pay attn as it was in Aqua so I thought hmm not so bad. I was wrong. This is one of those aspects, along with Merc Mars sq, that I see pop up time and again, I just need to learn my lesson and stay away. Not saying anyone else should look at charts like that but for me it's obvious when it keeps popping up in these types.

posted July 15, 2011 02:30 AM            

"As far as Pluto, he is perceptive and picks up on deep things easily so is the type who could see through you."
---I would say yes, perceptive, but then the Neptune trips him up. The poor thing routinely forgets where he parks and the simplest of details. Neptune also causes him to change his wording mid way and when confronted with a statement he JUST said he will say he meant the complete opposite. He actually told me one day that he delights in telling lies and changing words to spin people around in circles, that he basically gets off on that, he laughed like a gleeful child telling me this about himself. I told him at the time "Well you must be pretty proud of that cos you can't stop laughing" and he remarked to the contrary but the delight in it was really obvious. And to think we started seeing more of each other when NEPTUNE of all planets was conj my Sun, now it's moving off back into Aqua. I didn't see any of this coming, and like a dummy I explained everything away to fit the picture that I wanted to see. I'm still making excuses for him for some of his irrational remarks. I'm tellin you its Neptune that is the scary beast, Pluto doesn't hold a candle.

"Quirky in a GOOD way not so way out that he is a killer lol"
---This is reassuring, being on the heels of having ended it with him.

"Merc conj Mars quincunx Pluto (...) This struggle can make for an interesting quality in a person."
---I'm thinking this may play out in shoving his Aquarian ideals down throats, but I could be mistaken. He's quite paranoid in that regard. It works well for him when he's out handing flyers to people at social events and handing out free dvds on the topics but it doesn't earn him any brownie points elsewhere with co-workers or with me, really, because somewhere along the line it ceases to be a convo between 2 people and ends up being his well informed (merc saturn) stubborn (aqua) opinions of these topics, and really you just all of a sudden feel like you're being lectured to instead of having your say.....So at work for example there are many around him who just nod and smile and say 'yea you're right, you got that right, etc.' but just to get away cos when he's on those topics there's no way anyone else gets their say, you just feel like you're being ministered to & Now I'm thinking also of his Sun conj Jupiter. I can already tell you're helping me to see the chart more clearly

"That is why I am a real fan of quincunx's. (...) You must come up with a unique part of yourself cuz these two energies are so different."
---I agree, inconjuncts are stand outs to me as well cos this is where a person is different from others and it readily shows and there is NO WAY for them to hide it cos they HAVE to play out both sides, and the result is disjointed and somewhat comedic but it gets you noticed. My only inconjunct is Sun to Asc, and I'd rather it not be there, but the interplay has definitely pegged me as an unsuspecting entertainer.

"NN in Leo in the 12th--needs to get deeper and more mystical.However,needs to get more confident and stronger self expression,too."
--- Woah there.. I'm Pisces with Leo rising, no wonder the draw. I tried to teach him both of these things, the difference between aggression and proper assertion (he was afraid many times to assert, and didn't know that there was a diff between the two), and then also bringing him into my more creative world and getting him in touch with that artsy realm a bit but he seemed so stodgy while doing it....How funny his SN is Aqua in the 6th, and his Sun is Aqua and he has Virgo Asc......This may realllly speak to his resistance to developing the NN.

posted July 15, 2011 02:32 AM            

"Venus conj Sun would make him try to accomodate ."
---You're right, he thought he was being the gentleman when he often remarked 'whatever you think we should do' etc. putting the say so in my hands. The Pisces Dsc also likely added to this.

"I LOVE Venus conj Jupiter. I have that in a G/f"
---Hmm I'm not sure I've known other Venus/Jup people, but his isn't really a good example for me as it's mixed up with Sun.Uranus etc too much plugging into it. I'm better with learning by observing people with more pure expressions, such as venus conj jupiter with no other conjunctions to the pair.

"Now,Ladies I love Moon sq Mars. Don't put a high heel in my eye
I think it is a sexy aspect.It gives an edge lol"
---I bolded the phrase I love, the way you paint pictures like that
You know I think astro lore loves to paint Marlon Brando as the archetype of this (sun conj moon in aries sq mars in cap).
He definitely has the marlon brando vibe to him. It's a brooding nature, for sure.

"Does he escape in some way and then come back in to the "real" world
---Does he have a hard time being grounded in the regular world?
Is it a struggle for him to stay centered in the practical world.
Does he have good escapes like books, music ,yoga or sports? Does he have bad escapes like drinking?"
Not drinking as he is v.responsible. Not even a sip or anything, and he doesn't like anyone who has alcohol. He saw tequila in my kitchen and underhandedly (in his own passive aggressive way) accused me of being a lush, so I am certain he doesn't enter the drug.drink realm. Yes to losing himself in movies re:his collection, etc. I think I touched on his wayward Neptune above somewhere in response.

"I can't WAIT for you to come back and comment ,Baby!"
---I did You were right on about many things re how his tendencies may lead. I filled in a lot of the blanks with real life details of how it plays out (things no one could know except for him cos its been his choice).

posted July 15, 2011 02:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well Biblically speaking,the Anti Christ has certain features.

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posted July 15, 2011 03:22 AM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Astrologers have been preparing us for the AntiChrist whom some believe was born during this 1962 Aquarius Stellium.

The King of Jordan has his birthday here but from my own personal point of view is not the AntiChrist.

The AntiChrist Chart
http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/8fg6N6R582Q2.htm

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In 1965, psychic Jeanne Dixon predicted a “child born somewhere in the Middle East on February 5, 1962 will revolutionize the world… and bring together all mankind in one all-embracing faith… a new Christianity… every sect and creed united through this man,”

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posted July 15, 2011 04:02 AM            

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It's not this guy.

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Sure.. Sure..

That's what we all say when we date the antichrist!

posted July 15, 2011 05:53 AM            

"He will be a man of great charisma who will bring peace to everyone" , "so lets kill him, must be da debil". Meanwhile you are slaying and putting Jesus to death AGAIN for the second time.

posted July 15, 2011 07:22 AM            

I was hoping that Lala still liked me
I think she still does so it is a good day!!!

I am gonna come back and study what you wrote Lonake

posted July 15, 2011 07:24 AM            

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Originally posted by AstrologicalMan:
still with this anti christ stuff. Has anyone ever predicted the right anti christ? haha. Who cares? What if they are telling people that there will be an Anti Christ who brings peace but he is actually Christ. They knew he would come, so these certain people start calling him the Anti Christ.

"He will be a man of great charisma who will bring peace to everyone" , "so lets kill him, must be da debil". Meanwhile you are slaying and putting Jesus to death AGAIN for the second time.

God is nice enough to come down in the flesh to live with you guys and you kill him?

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posted July 15, 2011 07:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Oh screw it, I kept reading I got curious.
Ami what are the physical features?

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posted July 15, 2011 07:57 AM            

This gave me the chills cuz this is what the Anti Christ will do!

posted July 15, 2011 08:02 AM            

Lala---I am glad we are still friends

posted July 15, 2011 08:04 AM            

Obama--no way.