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Benedict Moon*
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posted July 16, 2011 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


Backstory:

-I've spent two weeks recovering from the hurricane-like aftermath of the recent solar eclipse.
-I handed in my Resume to my boss and her answer is now the reason I'm not wanting to dissolve anymore...I do know where I'm working after I get licensed next month. My Natal 6th house ruler is in the SR 5th house, pretty much confirming that.
-And yes, I AM passing the NCLEX next month because if I think any other way, I'll fail.
-I have accumulated 5 speeding tickets in the same 12th month span...creating huge legal bills. Yes, I am a 3rd house Aries Mars...and a Rhode Islander.

So what do you, the objective 3rd party, see in the solar return? Legal issues clearing up? Work as a Licensed Nurse going well? Fresh air to a stale love life?

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posted July 16, 2011 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The solar return is a specific prediction chart for the house that Leo rules in your natal. Not to be used as a general prediction tool. Otherwise, what would you think a Mercury, venus, Mars return etc mean?

The professionals have this very wrong.

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Benedict Moon*
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posted July 16, 2011 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay....would you atleast be willing to give your opinion based on the house ruled by Leo? (that is the 8th house for me)

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posted July 16, 2011 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your solar return is all about 8th house matters such as sex and other peoples money.
For this return, you will likely have more sex when your children are sleeping (5th ruler of solar return in 4th house of solar return) or handle other peoples money when you gamble. Fathers money is also brought into question.

Just work on 5th house themes to work out where this 8th house energy will manifest. Could be used as real life examples or just ideas to follow on by looking at any current themes on the day in question.

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posted July 16, 2011 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is with this house system you have. I highly recommend that you switch over to WHOLE SIGN house system. It makes all the difference with the interpretation, especially in your solar return. Maybe your natal too, as a different house that Leo is on, will change the return interpretation dramatically.

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Benedict Moon*
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posted July 16, 2011 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I don't have children and I don't gamble either. I do currently work with sick children though. Father's money will never be an issue again since I'll be a professional this year.


And I appreciate the advice but my whole sign chart has never resonated with me. *shrugs*

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posted July 16, 2011 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. I will stop there before I waste any more time.

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Benedict Moon*
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posted July 16, 2011 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, go grace someone else with your knowledge-inspiring presence.

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posted July 16, 2011 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I'm no expert...in fact, I posted my solar return chart for interpretation too!

But I do see Jupiter in the 1st, which seems like a lucky placement to me. I have that in my natal chart. Maybe your luck will turn in some way (Jupiter rules your solar 8th) so maybe issues with money and sex will improve.

I also noticed Saturn in the 6th. My solar return chart from last year had Saturn there and I remember reading someplace that that could mean something about experiencing new medical issues like a new infection or condition not experienced before. Or that may have been the interpretation for having Mars there, can't remember. I think Mars there can contribute to getting lots of cuts or bruises during that year. But I can say that I am convinced now that I don't want either Mars or Saturn in my solar 6th anymore. Nothing major happened but I did have an infection earlier in the year that I hadn't had before. Nothing bad just annoying.

Also I noticed Mercury opposite Neptune, so I'm guessing communication difficulties, Inability to clearly express yourself or maybe just lots of daydreaming!

Those are my initial thoughts!

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posted July 16, 2011 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Cooljen! I have mercury opposite neptune natally so that is just another day in the park for me.


As for medical issues? My back pain has returned, though I think it may be just the need to lose more weight. I'm small boned so even being just a little overweight has dire effects. I hope its nothing more serious than that.

And I am banking on Jupiter in the 1st, I could use the luck. phew!

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posted July 16, 2011 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
Yes, go grace someone else with your knowledge-inspiring presence.

Thank you.

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Benedict Moon*
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posted July 16, 2011 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was not a compliment, but I appreciate you bumping my thread for me.

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Benedict Moon*
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posted July 16, 2011 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Benedict Moon*
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posted July 21, 2011 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I know the meaning of saturn in the 6th now. I'm going under surgery for the first time since 1992. Oh joy.

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posted July 21, 2011 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh dear, it does look... bumpy to say the least. I'm so sorry you're going to have surgery!

I don't like that trine with Uranus and I don't care that it's a trine. Since it went into Aries for good the energy has changed so much and seems so difficult to handle. Jupiter on the ascendant could give lucky breaks, but also watch your weight... I also see mood swings and disappointments, emotional ones.

And a long shot, since you asked about the love life Intense relationship with a foreigner coming your way?

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Benedict Moon*
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posted July 21, 2011 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooooh, don't like the sounds of that. :S So it looks like none of the headaches will clear up, eh? *sigh* And I have to agree that Uranus in Aries has been VERY unsettling, and its not just because its been sitting on my Mars.


And cool, this would be the second year that love with a foreigner is indicated...though it didn't happen this past year. Maybe 2nd time's a charm?

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Cecile
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posted July 21, 2011 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys If I posted my solar return chart in this thread? Would anyone take a look?

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posted July 21, 2011 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Benedict Moon, your Venus is very near your IC for the year, so I wouldn't be surprised if it smoothed things over for you in the area of your sense of sense, or home.

Also your mercury is in fifth. I had that during a fun year, full of lots of games and jokes. I wouldn't be surprised if you felt some of that even if your aspects are on the harsh side.

From: http://www.solarreturns.com/

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Its effect is usually very positive concerning recovery from a state of depression, or from physical and mental dejections; convalescence after surgery; release from a period of financial, professional, sentimental, or familial trouble; end of a breakdown due to a death or a very bad disillusion, and so on.

Well if your having surgery this year, it's very fortunate that you have jupiter in your first house

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Benedict Moon*
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posted July 21, 2011 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, where did you find that site? Its awesome. And mercury in the 5th sounds fun, and it also happens to be the ruler of my 6th house so maybe my general workplace won't change (I work in Peds).


And sure, if you want to post your SR chart you can so we can compare notes and other can comment too!

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posted July 21, 2011 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
Wow, where did you find that site? Its awesome. And mercury in the 5th sounds fun, and it also happens to be the ruler of my 6th house so maybe my general workplace won't change (I work in Peds).


And sure, if you want to post your SR chart you can so we can compare notes and other can comment too!


I just ended up googling solar return jupiter in the first house If you look up different house placements in solar return, you'll find a lot.

So here's my chart:

I have a few questions about my SR chart:

I've read somewhere that venus is supposed to smooth things in the area of the chart it touches. Even though the venus aspects are harsh, do you think having venus will smooth things over in my 10th house?

Do you think things will move forward in my love life? I've looked at my solar return for next year and I'm thinking that might be a bigger year for love since I have venus, jupiter and the moon in the seventh house ... Do you think there's a chance that this yet might build up on next year? At least this year I have a planet in my seventh house, even if its uranus. And my moon is at the end of my fourth house, can it be counted as being in my fifth house? What about having juno on the ascendant?

Looking forward to hearing back from you!

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posted July 21, 2011 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure of the orbs used for SRs (Maira would probably know better than me) but the ones for the Venus squares seem a little wide to me (except with Saturn). But having a grandcross in the angular houses (or even just planets emphasizing those houses) would probably make for a pretty eventful year IMO, no stagnation included.

Juno conjunct the ASC makes me think a deep commitment will be at the forefront of your mind this year. Maybe to someone you're already thinking of? How do the angles in the SR chart relate to your natal chart? That's important too.

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posted July 22, 2011 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
I'm not sure of the orbs used for SRs (Maira would probably know better than me) but the ones for the Venus squares seem a little wide to me (except with Saturn). But having a grandcross in the angular houses (or even just planets emphasizing those houses) would probably make for a pretty eventful year IMO, no stagnation included.



Yes I see what your saying about the grandcross being in the angular houses. I didn't even notice it before Thanks for pointing it out. I guess its going to be a pretty eventful year.

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posted July 22, 2011 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:

Juno conjunct the ASC makes me think a deep commitment will be at the forefront of your mind this year. Maybe to someone you're already thinking of? How do the angles in the SR chart relate to your natal chart? That's important too.


That's really what I'm hoping for ^___^

So I'm really glad I tried seeing how the SR chart relates to the natal chart. I'm really happy you suggested it because I've never thought of it before and it's definitely something I'm going to do from now on.

I did it for the last year (2010) first. 2010 was really a terrible year for me. You can kind of see why from the SR, but things make so much more sense if you look at the SR and Natal together. So yeah, if anyone is doing their SR, they should also do their natal chart too, you get a much better picture.

2010 Solar + Natal

A few themes
-My ascendant for the year is on my sun/moon midpoint
-does anyone know what this means?
-I'm guessing it means a fateful year


Career confusion and trauma
-a mixture of restrictions, fate, blessing, emotions, the career and the unexpected
-red cluster
-N moon and N true node conjunct SR jupiter, uranus, and MC ALL oppose SR saturn in the 10th house!

Overload on the IC/MC axis
-in 2010, my sense of self, career, ideas about love, partnership and hope/fear for the future were all mixed up
-a lot of small things happened along the way (and it definitely feels like fate played a hand in this), but the relationships still hasn't moved
-look at the light pink cluster around the MC/IC axis
-N juno conjunct natal IC conjunct SR chiron and SR neptune ALL oppose SR venus and SR moon

Ideas about love, partnership, self are transformed
-the purple and green signify another cluser
-natal venus conjunct SR ASC and SR juno ALL opposing SR Pluto

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posted July 22, 2011 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2011 Solar + Natal

A few themes
-My ascendant for the year is on my sun/moon midpoint again like last year

Career rehab?
-last year's cluster on the fourth house has eased a lot (the area is shown in red)
-now we have N moon and N true node conjunct SR uranus ALL oppose SR Juno and ASC (10th house)
-I'm not really sure what this means?, but it looks a lot more harmonious than last year (and that's even with me having a SR uranus in the picture)
-maybe fate is stabilizing the partnerships within my career or I'm finding a partner in my career?
-yellow clusters, I'm happy to see my SR jupiter in sixth house and SR MC conjunct natal chiron

IC/MC axis settles down
-there's a lot less energy here than last year, so I'm hoping it won't be as much of an issue as last year, the SR venus is out of the config and its now conjunct N venus so hopefully it'll bless my love-live
-now we have N juno conjunct IC onjunct SR chiron and SR neptune

Love life
-now my SR venus is conjuncting my N venus
-I didn't include an opposition to SR pluto, because it didn't seem as exact as last year, do you think I made the right call?
-last year my SR Juno and ASC conjuncted my N venus, you still have energy around my N venus, but it's different, so hopefully my love life will move forward


If you got through this I'd really love to hear what you have to say! Do you think I'm on the right track? What do you think of my method? Do you have any suggestions or ideas about my 2011 SR? I really enjoyed doing this, and honestly in the future I wouldn't mind analysing someone else's SR in the same way in the future if there's interest.

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posted July 22, 2011 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
does anybody know how SR ASC conj Natal ASC would play out? thanks!

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