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Taineberry
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posted July 17, 2011 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone had any experience with this aspect in Synastry? I'd like to know what it means.

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posted July 17, 2011 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who is who ,Darling?
I know a lot about Chiron in synastry but not the moon. However,we can speculate

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posted July 17, 2011 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Male Moon in Pisces in 12th house conjunct female Chiron in Pisces also in 12th house.

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posted July 17, 2011 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this you?

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posted July 17, 2011 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No... it is a friend of mine.

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posted July 17, 2011 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh.. and their relationship is somewhat undercover at the moment.

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posted July 17, 2011 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this with my ex husband..

His Aries moon conjunt my Chiron.

When we first met, he saw me as a lost soul.. He would tell me, you just need to be loved.. Through out our marriage,he would say things too me like...
I made you w/o me you would be no where... (not sure what gave him this impression)

My response was always, I would be exactly where I am... I took care of my self way before you ever came along..

His family would also tell me Im his last chance.. I remember thinking WTF does that mean.. I thought it was weird.

Later on in the marriage, he wanted me to "save" him... Always getting into some sort of issues, that I needed to "help" him with..

I started to feel like what am I your knight and shinning armour..
Arent you the man...
I got really sick and tired of having to come to his rescue..

I reached my breaking point, and I couldn't do anything, anymore..
I turned around and walked away, and took my self out of the situation.
which just shocked him, he thought I would save him.. But he was un-savable... There's nothing no -one can do..

He in turns says everyone let him down, and did nothing to help him..
I said you have to help your self... No one else can..
He still doesnt understand that..

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posted July 17, 2011 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Lioness Interesting !

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posted July 17, 2011 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Chiron is a crazy wild card. I mean crazy and mostly bad lol

The majority of my Chiron relationships have exploded.
They started really ,really close(male and female) as if we were almost instant best friends.
Then,some LITTLE thing comes up and the person runs away.
It was always them ,not me.
I know that sounds self serving but I would be honest if it were me

I have one Chiron relationship left.She is a Scorpio and has a great sense of self.
We get close but do not need to possess each other.
I don't know.Chiron is totally weird lol

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posted July 17, 2011 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Mother's Sun combust Mercury is an exact conjunction to my Chiron in the 4th house.
If anyone who is reading knows about this aspect,could THIS alone account for all my pain with her?
Thanks!

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God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 17, 2011 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, very interesting Lioness.

Like he saw you (as the Chiron person) as being the one who could come to the rescue and heal all of his emotional wounds? But only after first thinking that YOU were the one who needed to be made whole?

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posted July 17, 2011 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think Chiron is a crazy wild card. I mean crazy and mostly bad lol

The majority of my Chiron relationships have exploded.
They started really ,really close(male and female) as if we were almost instant best friends.
Then,some LITTLE thing comes up and the person runs away.
It was always them ,not me.
I know that sounds self serving but I would be honest if it were me

I have one Chiron relationship left.She is a Scorpio and has a great sense of self.
We get close but do not need to possess each other.
I don't know.Chiron is totally weird lol


Ami - I read something about chiron which talks about the "on-off" nature : Quote
" Chiron by conjunction in relationship synastry can bring great attraction and common interests, then sudden, inexplicable and bizarre reversals - the potential for mutual growth is enormous if the parties don't destroy each other and themselves in the process.".

Do you think that in this synastry it may cause something like that in the emotional relationship? And if so, who would be the one who "feels" the receiving end of reversals?

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posted July 17, 2011 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes and now he blames me for his issues.. Saying they are my fault... He swears up and down he had no issues prior to me.. (OOO YEAH)

I keep telling himm, they are your choices and the consequences of your own actions.
YOU made the choice, even after I told you, your going to loose your family... He says "I know what I am doing"
OK.. so stop blaming me and go look in the mirror.

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posted July 17, 2011 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Taineberry:
Ami - I read something about chiron which talks about the "on-off" nature : Quote
" Chiron by conjunction in relationship synastry can bring great attraction and common interests, then sudden, inexplicable and bizarre reversals - the potential for mutual growth is enormous if the parties don't destroy each other and themselves in the process.".

Do you think that in this synastry it may cause something like that in the emotional relationship? And if so, who would be the one who "feels" the receiving end of reversals?


Taine--you explained exactly what I felt.I have never seen it anywhere.
It just happened again to me ,actually.

This is MY biggest problem, I do something very small, something which a simple apology should remedy and they see me as Satan, incarnate.
(Anti Christ people==Don't start)

It is such a weird vibe.Now, I know it IS Chiron.

I will try to remember who was the Chiron and who was the planet.
I will get back if I do

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 17, 2011 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to have a think about this one. I've got it natally. A few things that have been said I can identify with.

Lioness
I've been seen as a lost soul to some...but in reality am very independent, fiercely defensive over my "space", very committed to my long term path with a clear sense of where I want to be and what I need to do to get there. So I can identify with YOU in that relationship. And yes I have always been the knight in shining armour for my significant other which ****** me right off because I'M the girl.


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Arent you the man...
I got really sick and tired of having to come to his rescue..

I reached my breaking point, and I couldn't do anything, anymore..
I turned around and walked away, and took my self out of the situation.
which just shocked him, he thought I would save him.. But he was un-savable... There's nothing no -one can do..

He in turns says everyone let him down, and did nothing to help him..
I said you have to help your self... No one else can..
He still doesnt understand that..


The above is pretty much me and my love life FULLSTOP.

I do tend to be on/off but my moon/chiron is in opposition to uranus.


It's a harsh aspect natally and I can't see how it would be easy in synastry. I know a few with it natally and we're all mavericks with an understanding of levels of emotional pain that many never ever need to consider.

Maybe synastry can teach this?

The moon is a satellite and sheds no light of it's own. It reflects. I wonder if the moon shows the chiron person something that helps to acknowldege or strengthen their own chiron wisdom?

Lioness....are you more confident since this relationship? I know you've said a few wise things in these previous posts but was it this relationship that helped to cement these particular bits of wisdom?

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posted July 17, 2011 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to tell Doux Reve to chime in here.I am gonna link her this thread.
She has SUCH a depth of maturity--WAY beyond her years.
She understands emotions and emotional pain. Of all the people I have share my pain with, she comforts me the most

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 17, 2011 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I dont think Im more confident... (I am a leo so confidence, is not a issue..lol)

Anyways.. I think Im wiser...
I understand some mistakes I made... I see the error of some of my ways..

Which I cant really say was because of him, bc I was so fed up, I just wanted to leave it all behind me..
I think Pisces played a big role in shedding light on myself.. I was able to see the bigger picture..

My ex husband... Sighh I made mistakes, but my mistakes was allowing myself to get pulled into his issues...
My ex husband LOVED me dearly.. (he would do anything to come home) I know that, but I couldnt give it back to him.. Which was a mistake on my part for telling myself I could...
But his issues are just way to much for me.. It was very hard for me to decide to walk away... I spent 18 months in solitude. Thinking and thinking...

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posted July 17, 2011 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks. I am concerned about my friend, as she is in a vulnerable place right now - and I get the impression that he might be trying to rescue her emotionally. But is it a good thing?

And will it turn on her in the end? (Taking into account what Lioness and DysfMyst are saying)

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posted July 17, 2011 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Taineberry:
Thanks. I am concerned about my friend, as she is in a vulnerable place right now - and I get the impression that he might be trying to rescue her emotionally. But is it a good thing?

And will it turn on her in the end? (Taking into account what Lioness and DysfMyst are saying)


You just never know... I was with my husband for over 12 years.. It ended, but I'm not hurting because of the end... I feel like it was time, and I couldnt do it anymore..

Him "wanting" to save me is I would say what brought us together... (so to speak)
I was heartbroken when I started dating him (by gem) he would tell me you just need to be loved, and if you let me love you, you would fall madly in love with me)
He chased me for some 6 months..

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posted July 17, 2011 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioness - maybe in a painful kind of way, you WERE taught by him - albeit unwittingly, as it did make you wiser in the end?

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posted July 17, 2011 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Taineberry:
Lioness - maybe in a painful kind of way, you WERE taught by him - albeit unwittingly, as it did make you wiser in the end?



Yeah what not to do... LOL

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posted July 17, 2011 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tainberry
Check Nessus and Dejaneria.
They are hallmarks of the abusive relationship

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 17, 2011 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok thanks, will do.

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posted July 17, 2011 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Nessus is conjunct her Sun.

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posted July 17, 2011 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Taineberry:
His Nessus is conjunct her Sun.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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