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Topic: what is wrong with me!? no real moon connections
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seeleah
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From: kokomo, IN, USA
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posted July 17, 2011 08:04 PM
  
Okay..why is it that I have had no real positive good moon connections in any relationship I have had that I can recall..the most moon connection I have had with someone in our charts was my ex, and we had moon oppose moon and moon oppose venus.*sighs*
does anyone see this in my chart why? is it my 7th house aqua?
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Ami Anne
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posted July 17, 2011 08:11 PM
SEeleah
You are asking a question which does not make sense 
You are choosing these men. Synastry can't be seen from the natal.
I know what you are getting at.WHY are you choosing them but I think this can't be answered by the charts.
Just my 2 cents lol------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted July 17, 2011 08:12 PM
You know,I had a THOUGHT  OK-- do you have aspects that are afraid of intimacy? ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Ami Anne
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posted July 17, 2011 08:18 PM
You have Sun in the 12th.Maybe you are afraid to get close.
For the answer,I would look to aspects that have to do with intimacy.I had another thought as I was writing.This is based on my own pathology If we do not feel a solid sense of identity, we are afraid to let others close.
I am the poster boy for this so am NOT judging. Sun in the 12th could be doing this  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Lonake
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posted July 17, 2011 08:28 PM
Yea I'd go with something re:intimacy too. Either not in the mood for it or fearful like Ami said. Or it could be you're sort of married to your friends or your social life and that is where you get support, more than the romantic partner. (11th placements, venus gem).You also have aqua dsc with the ruler in the 4th, so maybe intimacy would feel like it might cause too many disruptions, it's square to your Merc at the Asc and maybe you would feel like you wouldn't be as free to express yourself.
I dunno, there are a few possibilities here. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 17, 2011 08:32 PM
WOW
I got it Lonake
Her ruler of the 7th is square the ASC. So her intimacy needs in terms of long term relationships are squared to her ASC--outer self in the world.What do you all think  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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seeleah
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posted July 17, 2011 08:33 PM
honestly..sometimes I feel intimacy is extremely clingy...hard to explain. But on the otherhand I want my feelings understood damnit!IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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From: Avendesora
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posted July 17, 2011 08:35 PM
You also have Cancer on the 12th house cusp so Moon energy may have heavy karma involved for you or is just difficult in general until you sort it out? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 17, 2011 08:36 PM
Seelah
In all your intimate relationships, did you have this pattern?------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Lonake
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posted July 17, 2011 08:37 PM
IC ruler is Venus in 11th opp Neptune in 5th, that looks like romantic dreams that may be unfulfilled. Holding on waiting for someone larger than life to manifest. The Sun in 12th, asc ruler in 12th are sensitive placements. I have Neptune in Sadge in the 5th and I'm all about that Big Romantic Dream, Leo Asc (which i also have) in my case just adds to it.Ami: "What do you all think"
Yea, I agree, That Uranus needs to have its space ruling the Dsc, it needs a partner to give it freedom. It can't be just any ol' set up. seelah: "But on the otherhand I want my feelings understood damnit!"
Well of course Water Sun ruling Asc in Water house. Every so often you need to go diving in the water and of course the Sun's house is where we shine. IP: Logged |
seeleah
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posted July 17, 2011 08:44 PM
it's strange..if a man gets too clingy with me, I run..I don't want to be their mama! and being a cancerian girl like I am..it get hard not to feel that way sometimes. If the relationship is too emotional, then I feel weighed down...if the relationship is really sexual, well I like it be then sometimes feel like a sex object... I do like some freedom..I guess in many ways, I want someone to travel the world with me, in my mind and in reality..im a freak. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted July 17, 2011 09:03 PM
Yea, you have what I have, the classic Water/Air dilemma. How to merge the two into something that works..IP: Logged |
seeleah
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posted July 17, 2011 09:50 PM
*sighs* I am a hot mess.................IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 17, 2011 09:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by seeleah:
*sighs* I am a hot mess.................
I AM A MESS TOO SISTER  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Benedict Moon*
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posted July 17, 2011 11:27 PM
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*sighs* I am a hot mess.................
IKR?! Who's bloody idea was it to pair Cancer Sun with Gemini Venus? One minute you want to be tied down to the house, the next minute you want to "Eat, pray, love, and think". (couldn't stand the movie/novel btw, just borrowed the phrase because its soooo gemini venus) Though I'm curious about that airy Gemini Venus being conjunct Lilith ...that looks interesting. I have the Moon/Lilith conjunction, but in an earth sign/water house so I can make sense of that. IP: Logged |
seeleah
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posted July 17, 2011 11:58 PM
it makes me very flirty, open minded and well um...yeah. LOL...and yeah..what you said fits me PERFECTLY! one minute I am home home home..and then the next, screw it! Rome here I come!IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted July 18, 2011 01:03 AM
Your Moon natally doesn't have a lot of aspects going on with the other planets in your chart (just wide ones), so if someone else's planet aspects your Moon, it won't have a connection to other things in your chart. Satisfying your Moon needs isn't a priority.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted July 18, 2011 01:28 AM
Doesn't matter. She's still a Cancer Sun, the Moon is the dispositor. IP: Logged |
seeleah
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From: kokomo, IN, USA
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posted July 18, 2011 08:26 AM
here's the thing..I have never been with a guy that shares my moon..I have some girlfriends that trine my moon but any guy that I am interested in most of the time squares or opposes it...for someone who is so cancerian..why? IP: Logged |
sassaqua
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From: Australia
Registered: May 2011
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posted July 18, 2011 09:45 AM
Hi seeleah, quote:
Originally posted by seeleah:
I do like some freedom..I guess in many ways, I want someone to travel the world with me, in my mind and in reality..im a freak.
Your moon IS conjunct Jupiter  It is also trine Uranus! These outer planets might be stretching your poor moon (away from where it would prolly rather be - at home, bare foot at the sink  ) to distant travel on the planet and the universe. Maybe because of these aspects too, you come across more extroverted and independent than what you moon may be? Maybe this doesn't send the accurate message to other moons looking for compatible security needs (ie, water/earth moons) -they just don't recognise you, you come across as an independent saggie. great question btw! Got me thinking outside the box!
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Ami Anne
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posted July 18, 2011 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Hi seeleah, Your moon IS conjunct Jupiter It is also trine Uranus! These outer planets might be stretching your poor moon (away from where it would prolly rather be - at home, bare foot at the sink ) to distant travel on the planet and the universe. Maybe because of these aspects too, you come across more extroverted and independent than what you moon may be? Maybe this doesn't send the accurate message to other moons looking for compatible security needs (ie, water/earth moons) -they just don't recognise you, you come across as an independent saggie. great question btw! Got me thinking outside the box!
BRILLIANT.Thank you Sass  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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ecomat
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From: Budapest, Hungary
Registered: Feb 2011
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posted July 18, 2011 10:12 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have Sun in the 12th.Maybe you are afraid to get close.
For the answer,I would look to aspects that have to do with intimacy.I had another thought as I was writing.This is based on my own pathology If we do not feel a solid sense of identity, we are afraid to let others close.
I am the poster boy for this so am NOT judging. Sun in the 12th could be doing this
i find this very interesting.
i have sun in the 12th too, and i'm familiar with it. my method of overcoming this is a) just keep on practising nevertheless and b) lack of willingness to admit that it can be a concern. i usually succeed. but then i have i strong need for intimacy too so i guess it's got something to do with other aspects as well. i hope i made some sense. IP: Logged |
sassaqua
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From: Australia
Registered: May 2011
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posted July 18, 2011 10:22 AM
Thanks Ami! You think I'm on to something then quote:
Originally posted by ecomat:
my method of overcoming this is a) just keep on practising nevertheless and b) lack of willingness to admit that it can be a concern.i usually succeed.
I found this funny ecomat, point b) so, basically you just go into denyal, (fantasy/illusion/lala land12H) that it needs any recognition(the sun). That was quite a statement. Astrology is amazing. I have venus and mars in 12th so it's prompted reflection on my own planets here - thank! IP: Logged |
ecomat
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From: Budapest, Hungary
Registered: Feb 2011
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posted July 18, 2011 10:39 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sassaqua:
Thanks Ami! You think I'm on to something then I found this funny ecomat, point b) so, basically you just go into denyal, (fantasy/illusion/lala land12H) that it needs any recognition(the sun). That was quite a statement. Astrology is amazing. I have venus and mars in 12th so it's prompted reflection on my own planets here - thank!
well, it depends. we're into philosophy i call it "putting a brave face on it". i basically know i have "issues" here and there but i realise that i must overcome those.
so is this denying the problem or is this trying to find a way around the problem? either way, the first step is to acknowledge it. i don't know, i have a lot of "worrying" aspects in my chart, as i understand. but i have this side to my personality that just refuses to accept defeat. (in my mind at least.) IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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posted July 18, 2011 12:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by seeleah:
it makes me very flirty, open minded and well um...yeah. LOL...and yeah..what you said fits me PERFECTLY! one minute I am home home home..and then the next, screw it! Rome here I come!
Jah, like yesterday I was browsing the bookstore, looking at Tony Bouradain's travels ('nother Cancer Sun/Gemini Venus) and wondering...why haven't I done that yet? What am I still doing here in this town? I should write a book! Learn Chinese! Clean the house!  Its just the most headache inducing combo ever, and just so you know....I am one too. Not poking fun, just empathizing. 
Back to the topic: Ummm, I do have a 12th house stellium together with the airy Gemini Venus, fire mars, and the 7th house Cancer Sun/8th house Moon. There's a constant battle between simple intimacy and the need for alone time and being my own seperate person. It definitely is about finding a balance....which I have not. I've put up too many walls myself so I'm just empathizing again. *shrugs* IP: Logged |
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