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Aya_and_baby
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posted July 18, 2011 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose you could call them Freudian slips but not necessarily of a sexual nature of course. They continue to amaze me ever so much.

Today I was in the supermarket and met someone I know, who used to work with my ex. He asked me how I was doing and I said I was studying again. The first thing he said to that was "so you're studying healthcare?"

The funny thing is that that topic is a reoccuring theme in my life. Others seem to think healthcare is the perfect career for me while the furthest I want to go in that, is psychology and social services. But the fact that people keep on suggesting it says to me that somewhere in the impression I give off, it tells people that I have the necessary qualities for it (caring for others, I suppose? Trying not to be too judgemental and putting others before myself often? I don't think I do the latter quite that often though. Hands-on approach and inability to see people being hurt, needing to help them relieve their pain somehow? ), or that they can very easily imagine me doing it.

Now, when I think of healthcare I think Virgo, 6th house, Mercury. And sure enough, those that I know with prominent Virgo have ended up in healthcare, some even directly at the start of their careers, as (male) nurses mostly. So, I reckon, if people see the nurse type in me, that must mean I have quite strong Virgo or at least 6th house in me.

And yeah, I have my 6th house in Taurus, it contains Ceres (nurturer) and NNode (life goal? ) and Venus is in 1st house (square my MC, though, and the only other planet it aspects is a conjunct to Neptune). My MC (career) does happen to be in Virgo (serving rather than leading) and Mercury is closely conjunct to my Asc!

But... With all those aspects and positions pointing towards the whole nursing thing, the only thing I am baffled about is: how can people IMMEDIATELY pick up on that, when half my chart is in (dare I say) quite a selfish element? I would have thought people pick up on all the attention-seeking fire before they would pick up on my desire to help others before me. Let's not forget that I have 4 planets in 1st house, so I'm very prominent rather than appearing obedient or serving.


Right, sorry for the incessant talking/typing. I get carried away with brainstorming sometimes, but hey, share your opinions on this topic! I still find it absolutely interesting to see how a chart has it's effect on others!

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NickiG
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posted July 18, 2011 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe its a karmic/past life tie...you could have been a healthcare provider in a past life (probably the most recent past life) and people (most likely people who you shared your past life with) are picking up on it in this life

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posted July 19, 2011 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe you were wearing a nurses outfit.

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Jounia
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posted July 19, 2011 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jounia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's really freaky! And very intriguing... you should have asked him why he said that!! Go back and find him...

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posted July 19, 2011 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's so interesting!

This is beginning part of Chapter.1 in "Sacred Contracts: Awakening your divine potential" by Caroline Myss -

"When I was a young girl, my father always told me, "I don't care what you do when you grow up, so long as you're a nurse or a teacher." I can still remember my fury when he would say that, because I was interested only in writing. The very idea of teaching school was out of the question. Yet today, in spite of all my efforts to avoid life in the classroom, I am a teacher--of workshops, of theology, of motivation--and what's more, I love it. I feel distantly connected to the nursing part of my dad's directive too, through the healing effects my work has had on many people.

My father passed away in 1989, and in the early 1990s, as my mom and I were discussing my work, I said to her, "Well, he won after all." Then I realized that Dad hadn't "won" some sort of game or struggle to control what I did with my life. My Contract had won. My father had been able to glimpse aspects of it, as many parents can, although their vision is often clouded by their own expectations and wishes for their children. Even without knowing about archetypes, Dad had seen something in me that evoked his understanding of the greater function and meaning of a nurse and teacher, and he related it to the career choices that were common for young women at the time.

Still, my Contract does contain the archetypes of the Teacher and Healer, which have manifested through the events of my life, even though I have never formally studied healing or teaching. My higher education has been in journalism and theology, but my work in medical intuition simply "happened." I did my first intuitive reading almost by accident, and then another, and another. Word spread through the neighborhood, and soon I was doing ten to fifteen a week. My growing reputation led to invitations to lecture on my work, which in turn led to invitations to teach workshops."

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posted July 19, 2011 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nicki: Interesting thought, but seeing the amount of people who have suggested nursing or healthcare in one way or another as a suitable job for me, that would be one long list of past-life connections there. That's why I suspect it must be something, some vibe I give off in this life rather than it's residu from a past life

Astroman: LOL! But no, nothing physical or material to suggest any affiliation to healthcare.

Jounia: yeah, I should have, but I just thought he based it on the impression that I give off... Just like all the others who have said that.

Betty: wow... That's interesting. Although I suppose that when it comes to parents, they seem to want their children to follow the most lucrative majors... My mother wanted me in economics at all costs, but that only made me rebel. Interestingly enough, of all the classes that I had, two "general" (non-"direction"-specific... well, Belgian education system is odd, it works with "directions", long story) teachers told me I should continue that course - well, three if you count my music teacher. One of them was my economics teacher, the other one my IT teacher. The latter is what I'm planning to do now, a very far cry from healthcare.

Also, maybe I shouldn't forget that healthcare is very popular among women here. I have hardly met a woman who wasn't at least interested in it - as am I, but then only from a mental health approach, which is less popular. So perhaps when you say to a woman here that you thought she'd be studying healthcare, nine out of ten you'd strike a chord somewhere. Maybe not a loud one, but at the least, the woman is going to think "hmm, I have thought about it... strange".

THAT might be another reason why people always seem to suggest it to me. And I DO look like someone who would choose for "popular", which I have been told over and over before. Again, odd, because that would be the last thing I'd do.

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posted July 20, 2011 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wanna know an interesting story, aya? i know this one guy who calls me "jap"...by no means am i japanese, but he has been calling me that since the day i met him....granted, i was studying chinese at the time, but he insisted on calling me "jap"...i met him long before i became deeply interested in the esoteric and didnt believe in past lives as strongly as i do now and now i believe i was japanese in a past life....coincidence? i dont think so....and i still think you were a caretaker in a past life, lol....could have even been more than one....i once heard that a soul will take off from where it left off in a previous life so maybe you were a caretaker in several of your previous lives and maybe in your last one you decided to quit the biz so you dont feel strongly about caretaking or medicine now

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posted July 20, 2011 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you said you had Venus in the 1st, ruling Taurus on the 6th (that's probably part of it). What other planets do you have in the first?

The reason I ask is because I'm finding more and more that people who have 1st house placements often come off more as those planets than they do their rising sign sometimes. Is your Venus the closest planet to the Ascendant?

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posted July 21, 2011 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 21, 2011 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by enchantress299:
So you said you had Venus in the 1st, ruling Taurus on the 6th (that's probably part of it). What other planets do you have in the first?

The reason I ask is because I'm finding more and more that people who have 1st house placements often come off more as those planets than they do their rising sign sometimes. Is your Venus the closest planet to the Ascendant?


Ah thanks for the bump Nicki, I missed this post!

Enchantress: my 1st house is the most crowded one in my chart. I have Mercury conjunct Uranus there and Venus conjucnt Neptune. But Venus is at least 20 degrees away from my rising, whereas Mercury is only 2 degrees away.

But seeing as Mercury rules Virgo, I can see a connection there as well I do appear very Mercurian, more than I appear Sagittarian. I only appear Sagittarian in my behaviour really, if you don't count the wide hips and the fire sign-influenced red hair (which really isn't a set rule because I know few people with red hair who have as much fire as me )

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posted July 21, 2011 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no problem aya

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posted July 22, 2011 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just noticed I missed your reply too, Nicki That's what you get with surfing the net on your phone

I could have been a caretaker in a previous life, I have to admit I've never really looked into past lives so I wouldn't even know what my past lives were. I do believe in them, but I'm the type of person who focuses more on this life and considers past lives finished business. But perhaps I should reconsider that, if it does come back to haunt me this way... Well, haunt is a big word, it's not a bad thing to be seen as carataker material

I do, interestingly enough, have a very strong interest in medicine but I just don't think I have the right qualities to actually do it as a job and... It's too exact of a science for me, something which doesn't really allow me to think outside the box and you have to know way too many things simply by heart and that's not how my mind works best. My mind works best when it can theorize and experiment by itself But that could cost lives in healthcare

"Hmm, let's try this out and see if it works... "

That's why I think the safest option in healthcare (especially for the patients ) is that I go in as a social worker or psychologist...

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posted July 22, 2011 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe he has seen you at your profession and just didn't mention it so that he would seem impressive.

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posted July 22, 2011 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry AstroMan but I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say. Since I've always worked in jobs that allow me to come into contact with an open variety of clients it is likely that he has been able to see me in my professional habitat, but none of my previous jobs have ever required talents which were typical of caregivers. I've worked in sales, mostly. In shops, more specifically. That being said, he only knows me from his professional habitat and even then it's a different one from his primary job (he did part-time bar work), so he pretty much only knows me from a non-professional pov. He sees me in my free time where I'm letting my hair down. In that case I do find it impressive that he would pick up on my nurturing personality. Because, admittedly, I am amazingly selfish when I go out, it's "everyone for themselves and take what you can get, take no prisoners and haul the prize". (Funny visual, that, if I say so myself - it shows my Aries 5th house rather wall, imagining the going out scene as a battle field )

Interesting fact, by the way, my last (long lasting) job did have affiliation with health care. It was part of an organisation for pharmacies and chemists, also covering doctors who had their own practice or worked freelance for hospitals, even labs that do checkups. In short, it had to do with healthcare and truth be told I loved it there. But the department I was in focused entirely on the accounting bit. It was there in fact that a lot of people have mentioned that I should go into healthcare, that I'd be perfect for it and that they expected me to have actually studied it.

I do like the idea of healing others but always seem to strand one step removed from actually doing it (doing accounts for pharmacies, preferring social health care over medical, ... ), which does bring me to a bit of interesting coincidence. Somehow I managed to start the night discovering that Jimmy Nesbitt was to play in the upcoming Hobbit movie (and thrilled about it! ) and through an amazing connection ended up reading about the mythical Chiron. (Nesbitt -> Hobbit -> Tolkien -> High Fantasy literary subgenre -> Mythology -> Oddysey -> Troy -> Achilles -> Chiron. Makes sense, right? ) Anyway, first of all it left me thinking aren't Centaurs really a lot like Sags ("born from the marriage between a rainbow and a cloud", love to have fun and are slightly irresponsible, or seem to be) and second... I almost forgot how Chiron was very... Medical. I know Mercury is often associated with medicine, but seeing as Chiron was a healer and had a good understanding of medicine, he'd be a good candidate to blame as well. I have associated my Chiron in 7th with my psychological version of Nightingale syndrome before so it shouldn't come as a surprise really. But yeah, Chiron in 7th conjunct Moon conjunct Dsc might be the culprit here, despite my Virgo MC, 6th house NNode and Mercury conjunct Asc

And previous lives are still an option of course, since I don't know what I was in those. It would be interesting to find out, really!


Maybe I just should go into health care after all The Universe is obviously giving me signs there. But then again, I'm a bit angry with the Universe for sending me signs of another sort. It should be sending those to a certain other person (unless he's simply ignoring them, but then the Universe should try harder) and not bother me with them. Anyway, I digress... Which is often the case with me

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