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Malena
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posted July 22, 2011 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Malena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know these statistics have probably been discussed to death already But this one in particular has always made me wonder.

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Scorpio males marry Pisces girls far more frequently than those of any other sign, and Geminis and other Scorpios least often. They most regularly divorce Taurus and Gemini females. There was no statistically considerable result with regards to which sign Scorpio men are least likely to divorce.

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Scorpio ladies marry Pisces males most generally, and are least inclined to marry Aries and Aquarius men. Scorpio ladies are least likely to divorce Gemini and Pisces males. As for who they are most likely to divorce, there was no statistically significant result for any sign.

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Gemini men are most likely to marry Gemini women. As for the sign Gemini men are least likely to marry, there was no statistically significant result, which suggests that Geminis may have broadminded tastes and appreciate a wider variety of personal qualities in a partner. Gemini men most often divorce Capricorn women, but are least likely to part from Taurus, Gemini and Scorpio women.

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Gemini women are most likely to marry Gemini men, but least likely to marry Tauruses and Scorpios. Gemini women part least often from Gemini men, but divorce Scorpio, Sagittarius and Aquarius men most often.

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What's up with Gemini male/Scorpio female apparently being more frequently successful than Scorpio male/Gemini female? Before I read these statistics, I would have guessed it to be the other way around. You know - supposedly the Scorpio woman wouldn't be able to tolerate her flirty Gemini male partner. But maybe there's more to it than that?

As a Scorpio woman, I often wonder if we fear boredom and stagnation in a relationship just as much as Geminis do. I can say for myself that I am very independent and I would rather not be in a relationship than feel trapped in one.

I found these statistics kind of amusing because when I think back on all the men I've dated/crushed on, Pisces, Gemini and Taurus are at the top of the list!!

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Ami Anne
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posted July 22, 2011 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a super strong Gem(Sun, Merc and Venus) and a super strong Scorpio(ASC,8th house Gemini stellium and Pluto conj the MC)

I can say that these 2 energies do not want to go together as natural partners.
They are very,very different.They are Quincunx.
That tells the whole story, really.

However,for me, as blend them in to a new whole, I like what I find.

I can be very chatty and superficial. I can be very deep and intuitive.

So, if there are problems between these signs, I think it would be that they simply do not understand the basic thrust and energy of the other.
My 2 cents

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posted July 22, 2011 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Malena btw

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Malena
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posted July 22, 2011 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Malena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally get what you're saying, Ami Anne.

But to me, it seems like if Scorpio and Gemini have a hard time meshing, you would see high divorce statistics for both Gemini male/Scorpio female and Scorpio male/Gemini female.

Instead, it's lopsided: apparently, Gemini male/Scorpio female apparently less likely to divorce than when the genders are reversed. That's what I'm really curious about. Why does it seem to work better with one gender combination than the other.

Edit: Hi Thank you for reading my chart when I posted it a while ago

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posted July 22, 2011 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe the divorce rate for scorpio/gemini is so low because they are the least likely to marry

like ami, i too have a strong gemini/scorpio placement...scorpio sun, mars, and pluto and gem ascendant, and like ami, i too feel the mesh of the energy and it is not good....my scorpio often feels introverted and doesnt feel like talking but my gemini makes me chatty.....however, although under normal circumstances, scorpios and geminis would probably not get along well, but i have an air void so two of my best friends are gemini and i personally love geminis

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Malena
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posted July 22, 2011 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Malena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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maybe the divorce rate for scorpio/gemini is so low because they are the least likely to marry

Actually the statistics sort of address this: I didn't bold it, but Scorpio men and Gemini women are the LEAST likely to get married in the first place. Even so, they are still the most likely to get divorced.

Scorpio women and Gemini men don't seem to follow this pattern. So to me, it still begs the question why the gender of the partners makes a difference.

Edit: But I think you might be onto something. I feel like a lot of Gemini guys I've known have resisted "tying themselves down" in marriage until they are absolutely sure they want to do it. So I can see where that might lead to a lower divorce statistic.

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posted July 22, 2011 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think the gender makes a difference because all genders of all signs act differently...like, a scorpio woman acts much differently than a scorpio man

i can understand scorpio women and gemini men, kinda, cuz my sisters bf is a gemini and he and i get along...hes not the kind of guy i could ever in a million years get with, even if he wasnt with my sister and they didnt have kids together cuz hes a player, plus i'm simply not attracted to him

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted July 22, 2011 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Malena:
I totally get what you're saying, [b]Ami Anne.

But to me, it seems like if Scorpio and Gemini have a hard time meshing, you would see high divorce statistics for both Gemini male/Scorpio female and Scorpio male/Gemini female.

Instead, it's lopsided: apparently, Gemini male/Scorpio female apparently less likely to divorce than when the genders are reversed. That's what I'm really curious about. Why does it seem to work better with one gender combination than the other.

Edit: Hi Thank you for reading my chart when I posted it a while ago [/B]


Thanks for saying Malena and you are very welcome!

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posted July 22, 2011 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Malena
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posted July 22, 2011 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Malena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
i think the gender makes a difference because all genders of all signs act differently...like, a scorpio woman acts much differently than a scorpio man

Yeah, I get that. I was hoping people would have specific thoughts on what makes Gem male/Scorpio female work differently than the reverse.

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posted July 22, 2011 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I don't know if this is accurate for all couples with these combinations, but I've personally seen both the male Scorpio/ female Gemini and its reversal in action before in friends.

I had a male scorpio friend who was dating a Gemini girl, and his complaint was constantly that she was just too flighty, and he didn't feel like he could trust her. The thing with the males with this sun sign (just from what I've seen and I don't mean to generalize here) is that they are very possessive, jealous, and have a need to *dominate* their partner. Basically, it seems like they like very submissive women. (my dad's a Scorpio and he's like this). They are very traditional, and a Gemini
woman is much too freedom-loving for this sign. I had a Scorpio gf that dated a Gemini guy for years, and it worked really well for them (even when their relationship ended, it was very amicable and they still stayed friends). She was a bit of a feminist, believed in female empowerment above all, and although she wasn't the casual type (only had serious relationships) she valued her freedom and independence very highly, and her gem really respected that and honored her for it. Also, I think the difference was that when she did get jealous and possessive, being a woman, she didn't use aggression (like some Scorp males do) to control and manipulate her partner-- instead she used her feminine wiles, and was very subtle and sneaky about it. Honestly, I don't think the gem even noticed at all! Lol

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posted July 22, 2011 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 26, 2011 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Malena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by etherealenlightenment:
Well, I don't know if this is accurate for all couples with these combinations, but I've personally seen both the male Scorpio/ female Gemini and its reversal in action before in friends.

I had a male scorpio friend who was dating a Gemini girl, and his complaint was constantly that she was just too flighty, and he didn't feel like he could trust her. The thing with the males with this sun sign (just from what I've seen and I don't mean to generalize here) is that they are very possessive, jealous, and have a need to *dominate* their partner. Basically, it seems like they like very submissive women. (my dad's a Scorpio and he's like this). They are very traditional, and a Gemini
woman is much too freedom-loving for this sign. I had a Scorpio gf that dated a Gemini guy for years, and it worked really well for them (even when their relationship ended, it was very amicable and they still stayed friends). She was a bit of a feminist, believed in female empowerment above all, and although she wasn't the casual type (only had serious relationships) she valued her freedom and independence very highly, and her gem really respected that and honored her for it. Also, I think the difference was that when she did get jealous and possessive, being a woman, she didn't use aggression (like some Scorp males do) to control and manipulate her partner-- instead she used her feminine wiles, and was very subtle and sneaky about it. Honestly, I don't think the gem even noticed at all! Lol


Haha! Clever girl.

Thanks for giving me real-life examples. I can understand the kinds of dynamics you described. It's so interesting to see the same character traits cause such a different outcome.

As a Scorpio woman, I could relate to the one you described in your post. It's not even a feminist issue, I just can't stand feeling smothered (= controlled). For a Gem guy to be "flighty" might be a fair trade-off, depending on the circumstances.

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posted July 26, 2011 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Malena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by blugrey:
Gemini men = masculine sign.
Scorpio woman = feminine sign.

Scorpio man = feminine sign.
Gemini woman = masculine.

Note the difference?


Aha!! Yes, I do. I'm glad you pointed that out because I don't think I would have put it together myself!

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Gemini men also tend to be a little more forgiving than Gemini women.

I cannot really say more than that. A Gemini woman cannot put up with the same things a Gemini man can. I really don't think Scorpio men know what to do with themselves when a Gemini doesn't fall all over herself to be with them and/or never fully gives control to him. Scorpio men attach that to their ego more than a Scorpio woman would, IMO. And then they get hurt. Then they start crying. Blah.


I can see where the control issue would manifest differently. I also wonder if a Gem guy would be more likely to enjoy the challenge of a woman who wanted independence (whether Scorpio or any other sign), rather than immediately seeing it as a threat. Of course every sign has trade-offs, I guess.

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posted July 26, 2011 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 26, 2011 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Malena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree. Women who try to control their men are often labeled as "nagging," and a lot of women don't want to be seen this way (contrary to stereotype! ). But men who don't control "their" woman is sometimes seen as weak. I can see how that would influence matters.

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posted July 26, 2011 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 26, 2011 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

It might simply be the fact that Scorpio likes to hang on long after Gemini would. Perhaps even the woman with a lotta Pluto is willing to just flat stick it out, while Mercurial men are hitting the eject button long before most would consider doing so. They've very itchy fingers that way.

My hubs is actually a Geminian. Sun-Saturn, exact, though. We have an unusual mix, as most of my planets are Scorpio and express themselves as either Taurus or Gemini by affinity - 2H (Sun-Pluto), 3H (Moon-Mer-Ura-Mars). My MC and Sun decanate are in Gemini, duad in Taurus. Granted, my Moon decanate's Cancer, and duad Leo. (He's a Leo rising and Sag Moon.)

So it may be nothing more than Gemini versus Scorpio in terms of overall nature. Of course, as it is with my husband, that can be balanced or altered, given other influences -- his Sun and Moon at the MC and IC, respectively, giving a Saturnine / Lunar feel to his overall personal expression; his Mars is in the 8H, too. Sun decanate's in Libra, Moon's in Aries. Duads both Pisces. So, he's not your typical Gemini, and I'm not your typical Libran, since I have SO much Scorpio / Pluto.

Just my thoughts.

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posted July 26, 2011 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 26, 2011 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have little to comment on this matchup, but I remember that site...thanks for bringing it up again.

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