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Moonfish
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posted July 23, 2011 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer is known as "mother zodiac" being caring, loving, & nuturing. According to astrologer the Ceres asteroid has the same traits as the Cancer sign.

So if one person's natal chart was full of cancer placements and another person's chart had a lot of harmionous aspects to the ceres asteroid which person would be more Mothering?

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Doux Rêve
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posted July 23, 2011 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally, I don't think an asteroid will ever be as strong as a planet or a sign.

Just my opinion.

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Benedict Moon*
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posted July 23, 2011 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceres is actually said to be the equivalent to Moon/Venus/Jupiter. Though for sign-wise, I would say she was Virgoan just because of her association with the harvest.

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AriesSun
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posted July 23, 2011 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesSun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have heard that ceres is like a another moon and it's usually more showing than actually moon

i can personally accept with that but i don't know about others.. it can be because my ceres is in 1st house and my moon is in 7th house and my moon is very afflicted by squares and stuff.. i feel like my moon tells more actually my mother and ceres would be more about me and my feelings

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Stawr
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posted July 23, 2011 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Ceres in Canncer and it conjunts Jupiter.

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Xiiro
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posted July 24, 2011 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moonfish:
Cancer is known as "mother zodiac" being caring, loving, & nuturing. According to astrologer the Ceres asteroid has the same traits as the Cancer sign.

So if one person's natal chart was full of cancer placements and another person's chart had a lot of harmionous aspects to the ceres asteroid which person would be more Mothering?


My experience of Ceres has been pretty different from my experiences with Cancer's energy. Cancer is an archetypal mother energy. Like the moon, it deals with light and gravity. I experience the Moon as an emotional foundation, built from event-imprints, collected from genetic and experiential lineage. This foundation psychologically manifests as an individual's “personal space”, or our habitual instinct to reinforce that which we feel will sustain one's person. Cancer energy utilizes the Lunar Dynamic, because it relies on the magnetic pull between it's emotional foundations and external experiences to express it's own personality. Cancer identifies with it's environment personally, and maintaining that which is considered “Personal” is of paramount importance. Like the Moon, Cancer is also about shining light into the darkness, or creating a true haven of "known" from the dangerous "unknown".

Cancer's energy (on the high end of it's spectrum) is a personal, safe, and nurturing experience of closeness, very much like the experience of breastfeeding. Cancer is about establishing a nest and fattening up, it is the result of Aries's explosion into individuality; Taurus's desire to taste, value, and experience the quality of individuality through objectivity; and Gemini's desire to define, quantify, classify, rearrange, and communicate what Taurus discovers. Cancer is the moment when the universe realizes some of those qualities feel very far from the center, and some of them are quite close (regardless of the fact that they all originate from the same point). The closer qualities more immediately reflect an understanding of self, and are therefore considered “personal” or “within one's area of individual care”. This is why I would liken Cancer to the Maternal Archetype, it's the first time the universe begins to relate and nurture constructs within it's own belly.

Ceres on the other hand seems to manifest more as “providence through process”. In this way, it is also a nurturing energy, however it seems to be more of a “nurturing as a service” rather than “nurturing as a survival instinct”. The most popular story of Ceres is the often known story of Persephone's abduction, where (regardless of the work done by farmers) Ceres withholds the growth of crops. The result was starvation, death, and Hades finally giving up her daughter from the underworld. Because Persephone ate some pomegranate seeds offered to her however, she was bound to return to Hades every year for a period of time. This is the classic story of winter, when Persephone descends to the underworld, Ceres withholds providence and winter comes. When Persephone returns each spring, the world becomes fertile again.

In the chart, I have experienced Ceres to manifest as “one's ultimate service or providence”. My Ceres is in Sagittarius, and I love learning for the sake of being able to better teach others. Because this feels like “my personal providence” or “what I have worth giving”, I can find my self offering advise, optimistic wisdom, experience stories, and lessons even in cases where people don't want them. I also have dealt with the feeling within myself that “if I am unable to produce stories about personal learning experiences relating to the topic, I am not contributing to communication” (conversely, when I am withholding out of anger or sorrow, I refuse to share experiences, optimism, help people spiritually, or travel with others).

In closing, I think my answer to your question would be: Both natives would have a desire to nurture, but the Cancerian energy would be the most maternal of the two.

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