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Topic: Anyone else with no Fire?
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Pinkie&TheBrain Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 24, 2011 05:34 AM
Hi, I have no Fire in my chart, and I am curious as to what this may mean, because I've read several theories.One theory said people who lack an element may end up excelling in areas represented by that element, to sort of make up for the "deficiency". I don't really feel that, since Fire stands for physical activity and I am one of the least physical people I know. I often feel detached from my own body, like I don't know how it works. I was terrible in gymnastics while in school, and I was overweight for most of my life so far(am 22). The only sports I enjoy are swimming and tennis/bedminton/ping-pong. One other area that Fire represents is "performance", I take it, because this site mentioned Rudolph Valentino as an example of "no Fire" and he ended up being in show business. Another thing I can say about me is that I am one of the least vulgar people you can meat. I generally feel repulsed by anything "messy". Especially sexual innuendos and stuff like that. I am not sexual at all. I guess I just don't care about stuff like that. I am very mind over matter in everything. I also noticed that I have a very hard time getting along with people who have lots of Fire, or even just a little Fire. My best friend only has Uranus in Sagittarius as Fire, and my sister has Jupiter in Aries, and they are a lot more energetic and enthusiastic than I am. They're both Air Suns, though. I'm a Pisces Sun. I count each planet equally when assessing quantities of elements and Modes. Meaning I don't think the Sun counts 3 times more than Pluto, because each planet represents a side of you, so this seems silly. I have Sun, Mercury, Venus, North Node in Pisces, Moon, Mars, Jupiter in Gemini, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune in Capricorn, Pluto in Scorpio, AC in Virgo. So I count that as 4 Water, 3 Air, 3 Earth. Some of the things I think suit me in terms of having no Fire, aside from what I mentioned already, are: - physically passive; - hard to get enthusiastic; - not naturally optimistic or positive; - not especially outdoorsy; - very introverted, I prefer time alone to time spent in the company of others, unless they are 2 or 3 people I know well; - not accustomed to changes, which is weird, since I'm all Mutable. Anyone else care to share their observations?
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AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 413 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 24, 2011 05:42 AM
want to be unique? Learn why you aren't these things and become them. You would defy your chart. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 746 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 24, 2011 06:16 AM
wha bout planets in fire houses? i have no air but i don't have a problem with academics or communication. i have some planets in air houses and my mercury is third after venus and mars. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 599 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 24, 2011 09:10 AM
I am a Fire void.I can relate to everything in your post. Plus I am strongly Saturnian, so that makes it even more difficult to be "firey" ie optimistic, funny, enthusiastic, dynamic, etc. I've been struggling with depression and apathy for like half of my life, so the theory that says people with voids tend to overcompensate is not true for me. I only have the Moon in a Fire house, the 5th, but I don't feel like it helps. Other than that I also have Uranus Neptune in the 9th, but this too, doesn't seem to help, since those are outer planets and not particularly strong in my chart. In my opinion, Fire void is the hardest void to have.
I don't get along with people with lots of Fire at all. We are waaaay too different and get frustrated with each other. I am too passive for them, and they are too pushy for me. Uhuh. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 15992 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 24, 2011 09:20 AM
There are several Fire Voids here. I hope they will respond !------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged |
Pinkie&TheBrain Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 06:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by AstrologicalMan: want to be unique? Learn why you aren't these things and become them. You would defy your chart.
but what if I don't want to be those things? The only things I'd want from Fire is enthusiasm and energy. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 10372 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 25, 2011 06:45 AM
No Fire and don't miss it.------------------ "To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing." Aristotle IP: Logged |
Pinkie&TheBrain Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 26, 2011 03:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: No Fire and don't miss it.
lol. so no particular things you might complain about that can be traced to lack of fire? IP: Logged |
Venus Moderator Posts: 396 From: Beirut Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 26, 2011 03:38 AM
no fire here, at all! but i do have sun conjunct mars, maybe that makes up for that..however i've always had trouble confronting, i have a bad temper but when it comes to one on one i just loose my edge.. could be my Libra Mars that just hates conflict.. IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 413 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 26, 2011 08:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by Pinkie&TheBrain: but what if I don't want to be those things? The only things I'd want from Fire is enthusiasm and energy.
I know some legal stuff that will give you energy and enthusiasm. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 4735 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 26, 2011 08:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Venus: no fire here, at all!
Do you agree with the OP wrote about having no Fire?IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 413 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 27, 2011 12:33 AM
People that don't have something sometimes don't know what they are missing. Although that is not always the case.IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 983 From: the world is my home! Registered: Feb 2010
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posted July 27, 2011 02:19 AM
I have 5 planets in Fire: Sun, Merc, Mars, and Jupiter, Neptune... 4 of those in Sag, the jupiter is in Leo. I have been over weight all my life... I'm 5'7" and I have never been below 150 lbs.
I hate physical activity, I love the ideal of it. I have been depressed since I have been 9-10 yrs old (and I'm 32 now) I have a BS in Music Education, BS in Architecture, MS in Music Composition and working on a PhD in Industrial Engineering (and all I have in Air is ASC and Pluto... been a life time student...?) I feel like I have no enthusiasm (and my mom says this about me... but people make comments to me that I do more in a week than most people do in a year?) I HATE being outdoors... unless it's in Colorado (no humidity) All the other planets... Earth- Moon, Saturn, NN Water- Venus, Uranus and MC Air- ASC, Pluto Fire- Sun, Merc, Mars, Neptune and Jupiter... I feel like my Sun conj Neptune kind of takes over my fire. Also, I have Sun, merc and Mars Progressed to Cappy- with Prog Venus in Sag... I DEFINITELY feel that!
I also have never been a traveler until my Prog Venus went into Sag... that's all I can think of right now... IP: Logged |
Venus Moderator Posts: 396 From: Beirut Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 27, 2011 03:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Venus: [b]no fire here, at all!
Do you agree with the OP wrote about having no Fire?[/B][/QUOTE] lets see, im bad in sports, played basket ball in high school -horrifying- lol i used to cry when we had gymnastics not too keen on the outdoors either, im usualy optimistic, and most def. not an introvert however all that can be due to my sun in Libra! like Pinkie i have mostly water (Scorpio to be exact) in my chart the rest is Earth (Cap. mostly) and only my Sun and Mars in Libra, IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 4735 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 27, 2011 05:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by racole12: I have a BS in Music Education, BS in Architecture, MS in Music Composition and working on a PhD in Industrial Engineering (and all I have in Air is ASC and Pluto... been a life time student...?)
Sagittarius, not the lack of Air.
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Lonake Moderator Posts: 4735 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 27, 2011 05:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Venus: only my Sun and Mars in Libra,
O, I didn't know you had strong Libra..that helps a bit! Are you attracted to/friends with Fire dominant people?IP: Logged |
Venus Moderator Posts: 396 From: Beirut Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 27, 2011 06:51 AM
@Lonake, its actualy not that simple, aries usualy tick me off, sags drive me crazy, and well with leos im either feeding them complements (cant help it) or calling them names hehe -usualy the laterfunny though my two fav. actresses have very strong aries, Keira Knightly and Kate Hudsen, part of me aspires to be more like them.. i cant help but being a little attracted to aries men, afterall they are ruled by Mars and im a helpless Venus hehe IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 4735 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 27, 2011 08:08 AM
So the answer's pretty much 'no.' Gotcha.IP: Logged |
Miche Newflake Posts: 3 From: Sydney NSW Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 28, 2011 07:46 PM
Hi Guys, I also have no fire in my chart but am very attracted to fire sign people. I married a fire sign and have always been very sporty. Also have you heard that sometimes people in social situations actually act like the opposite sign of their rising? I too have suffered with depression in the past but found buddhist meditation got me out of that. Look harder at your chart. There will be elements of fire. For example. If you have a lot of cardinal signs like Cancer, Libra or Capricorn. these signs are the doers...and also Scorpios have an incredible amount of earthly fire energy.......Good luck everyone...Obviously its your challenge in life to find the FIRE!!IP: Logged |
Venus Moderator Posts: 396 From: Beirut Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 29, 2011 01:13 AM
yea its true, i have alot of cardinal in my chart and that makes me seem upfront and overly confident, but in truth, im not shhhh dont tell anyoneIP: Logged |
MsCandeh Knowflake Posts: 866 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2009
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posted July 29, 2011 11:22 AM
I only have one fire sign and that is a generational outer planet - Uranus in Sagittarius. Would I be considered Fire Void?I am physically not fast/athletic and did better at sports where coordination was prized more than speed (eg. I was a good goal shooter in netball, played basketball (I am reasonably tallish but was never fast), good at volleyball, badminton, tennis etc). Actually I hate exercise in general but don't mind team sports. I believe fire signs enjoy the running/jogging ... sooo not me! But I get along really well with fire signs BECAUSE they energise me and bring out that zazz in me. I go a little bit hyper around them (except Leo suns, just never really been close to any Leos and find them hard to talk to.. not that I want it to be hard) I make better friends with Air and Fire than I do Earth and Water, though I am predominantly Earth and Water, with my only Air sign being Moon (and Air sign Rising). Akso have an Air sign Chiron and NN. Though I tend to be able to have more D&Ms with Earth/water people. So I guess it depends on my mood too ! I have no planets in 1st house, none in 7th and 3 planets in 9th - Moon, Saturn, Pluto. So I wonder if this helps bridge the gap as well. I don't deal with with sudden social changes, like random drop ins etc. Puts me out. I like being outdoors but am not particualrly active, though when I actually go out and do active things I feel really good. But I get overly enthusiastic about things sometimes when I am excited. People aruond me can often be a dampener on this, which brings me down again. I don't know what it is. I suppose I am a bit pessimistic when things aren't working out, obstacle after obstacle, but I would guess a lot of people would reach that point. I don't consider myself overly social (too tired lately) but I can swing between spending almost a week not visiting anyone outside of work, to seeing people every night of the week. IP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 144 From: phoenix, arizona, usa Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 29, 2011 01:41 PM
I only have fire in Mercury, and my chart is full of water. I can be very restless & always on the go, but I can be lazy too it just depends on the day. I guess it's because i have "fire aspects", the strongest aspects in my chart is Sun conjunct Mars (including Sun parallel Mars) &, Sun-Mars trine Ascendant so like @Venus said that might be helpful physically. IP: Logged |
Airi Knowflake Posts: 59 From: in your house, under your bed Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 29, 2011 01:54 PM
Wow so many fire voids! Am I the only air void? Personally I love fire and fire people! Then again almost half my chart is composed of fire. Although I can relate a little when you say you have a hard time understanding people with a plethora of that element or someone who has a sun sign in that element. I'm the same way to an extent. For the life of me cannot get along with Aquas (they love me though smh), save for 1 very special person. Libras are give and take, but love Geminis. Then again, they are semisextile to my sun. Also have to say that I do not miss the air in my chart, have to say though those with no fire you don't know what you're missing! hehehe IP: Logged |
SmilingHeart Knowflake Posts: 174 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 29, 2011 03:48 PM
I have one fire sign. Jupiter in Leo ( and Lilith in Sagittarius but I don't think that counts). I have mostly Earth in my chart (Virgo and Capricorn-no Taurus)Okay, let's see... I always hated sports in school, even though I've always been one of the best in athletics (was horrible in gymnastics though!) BUT I love to walk! I walk at least 2-3 hours every day. If I don't get outside once a day I go crazy. Love hiking! And riding my bike. I also hate vulgarity! I sometimes like to freak out my Sagittarius mate with sexual innuendos but that's just for fun and only ok if I do it ;-P -It's really easy to get me excited over anything. I find everything way too fascinating. I have my depressed, moody phases but who doesn't? -I think I need to spend as much time with others as I do on my own. I don't mind being alone though. I would never go to a club by myself. -in recent years I've grown to be one of the most extroverted people ever. I used to be a introverted, shy teenager but forced myself to open up -optimistic. I always think everything will work out just fine. I dropped out of highschool some years ago and now I'm college! So it usually works out real nice - I am a hypochondriac when I'm not busy with something -I need change regularly or I'll get depressed. Maybe that's really your issue too? BTW Pinkie...you were one year before me. So we have the same generational planets! I hope that was detailed enough!
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SmilingHeart Knowflake Posts: 174 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 29, 2011 03:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Airi: Wow so many fire voids! Am I the only air void? Personally I love fire and fire people! Then again almost half my chart is composed of fire. Although I can relate a little when you say you have a hard time understanding people with a plethora of that element or someone who has a sun sign in that element. I'm the same way to an extent. For the life of me cannot get along with Aquas (they love me though smh), save for 1 very special person. Libras are give and take, but love Geminis. Then again, they are semisextile to my sun. Also have to say that I do not miss the air in my chart, have to say though those with no fire you don't know what you're missing! hehehe
I also have only one air placement! I am so earthy I should consider myself an Ent! IP: Logged |