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devilsownchild_99 Newflake Posts: 11 From: India Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 24, 2011 12:55 PM
CHIRON...What does having Chiron in the 9th house signify?..I often cry without reason and am unable to identify the source of my pain.. i feel lonely..like i am not complete..the first chart(girl) is mine..any insights?
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sunshine9 Moderator Posts: 782 From: Beehive Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2011 01:52 PM
Cafeastrology says:Chiron in the Ninth House "Chiron is associated with the emotional wounds we receive early on in our lives. The sign Chiron is in will dominate but the house placing will show in which area the personality is motivated and into which they will put their efforts. In the ninth house, it may indicate some crisis to do with spiritual teaching. A strong belief of one sort or another that must be channeled correctly to give the right balance. Being the eternal student should be enjoyable, not stressful, so take time to relax. You could be a very good teacher, if your extreme opinions are modified." IP: Logged |
sunshine9 Moderator Posts: 782 From: Beehive Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2011 01:53 PM
It also looks like Saturn and Uranus are opposite your Chiron.. perhaps the latter explains the unexpected triggers of pain.IP: Logged |
sunshine9 Moderator Posts: 782 From: Beehive Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2011 01:54 PM
It also appears Chiron sextiles your North Node.. perhaps tapping into the source of wounding/healing is something in line with your soul growth. IP: Logged |
sunshine9 Moderator Posts: 782 From: Beehive Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2011 01:55 PM
Just noticed you're new here - Welcome to the forum! Sunshine IP: Logged |
maira Knowflake Posts: 880 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 24, 2011 07:48 PM
Pain is Pluto and pain is Capricorn, pain is Sun conjunct Saturn and moon in Cap. Chiron is not the bad guy here, in my opinion. Your cuts run deep, but it's not Chiron. Have you ever sought counseling?Depression is Saturn, and you have plenty of that going on in your chart. It's not going to be easy, but you'll overcome it. The ole devil rewards hard work. Just keep the faith IP: Logged |
devilsownchild_99 Newflake Posts: 11 From: India Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 30, 2011 10:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by maira: Pain is Pluto and pain is Capricorn, pain is Sun conjunct Saturn and moon in Cap. Chiron is not the bad guy here, in my opinion. Your cuts run deep, but it's not Chiron. Have you ever sought counseling?Depression is Saturn, and you have plenty of that going on in your chart. It's not going to be easy, but you'll overcome it. The ole devil rewards hard work. Just keep the faith
I have never sought counseling, as i annot locate the source of my pain..but it is so much that when it comes i cannot control it and it also manifests itself physically..can you elaborate what you mean by depression is saturn?
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devilsownchild_99 Newflake Posts: 11 From: India Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 30, 2011 10:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by sunshine9: Just noticed you're new here - Welcome to the forum! Sunshine
Thank You sun shine..i am learning a lot on this forum.. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 24935 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 30, 2011 11:17 AM
Ok Darling I think I see a root of your problem.Your energy is at the bottom of the chart.That means it is hard for you to get out of your own way. You see too close up to your own navel. This is cuz of your chart. It is like too much of an inner focus.Do you know what I mean? Chiron is alone on one side. This means something big. If anyone can help me,please do.If you want to help --look up singeltons or something about a planet that is alone as yours is. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 2027 From: Saturn-free H12 ;) Registered: Aug 2010
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posted July 30, 2011 11:21 AM
I have it also. Some believe that Chiron 'joys' in H9. I do understand logics of that,cuz with self-understanding,and looking for the answers in outer world,and merging the two,u can get to the bottom of every pain. They r tricky,those painful experiences,always needing a closure. Do u find urself at odds with rest of the world? For example,r u adjusted with ur community,or u see the flaws in culture/religion/way of living? Like some tradition that everybody follows,but in itself could be dangerous/offensive and u can't understand why everyone can't see it? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 24935 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 30, 2011 11:23 AM
Your life goal is a relationship. Chiron in the 9th means you must find your spirituality but it will involve pain in the process Your greatest place of pain will be this.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 24935 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 30, 2011 11:54 AM
You have Venus conj Pluto in the first.You are very passionate .However,this aspect again is inward looking cuz it is in the first house. I am feeling what your problem is, I think. I have a mirror image chart down to the same thing with Chiron. I think it is called a bucket handle chart. Why don't you look it up and put it here .We can talk about it if you want.IP: Logged |
devilsownchild_99 Newflake Posts: 11 From: India Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 31, 2011 02:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by VenusDiSirius: I have it also. Some believe that Chiron 'joys' in H9. I do understand logics of that,cuz with self-understanding,and looking for the answers in outer world,and merging the two,u can get to the bottom of every pain. They r tricky,those painful experiences,always needing a closure. Do u find urself at odds with rest of the world? For example,r u adjusted with ur community,or u see the flaws in culture/religion/way of living? Like some tradition that everybody follows,but in itself could be dangerous/offensive and u can't understand why everyone can't see it?
Yes you are correct when you say that i am an odd person in the eyes of the world..by beliefs, my way of life, my thoughts often conflict the norms..i had a hard time in school and college because i was different, and strange but now when i look back i feel i was ahead of my time and more compassionate and mature than my peers..by beliefs came from within my own self and i never followed the crowd so i was lonely..some times i did do things which i myself didn't agree with to fit in..but that phase never lasted long..feels like i have a very primodial spirit guding me ..like i have a connection to the universe..and it dictates my beliefs even though they are at odds with the world..and this is my basic source of strength IP: Logged |
devilsownchild_99 Newflake Posts: 11 From: India Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 31, 2011 03:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Your life goal is a relationship. Chiron in the 9th means you must find your spirituality but it will involve pain in the process Your greatest place of pain will be this.
The relationship that i have has caused a lot of pain to me..i have felt cheated,repressed,misunderstood and abused a lot and at the same time this has made me a stronger person.I have also made mistakes of my own and through this relationship i have been able to see those mistakes and grow as a person.The chart above which says boy is of my lover and the third chart is our composite chart. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 24935 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 31, 2011 06:29 AM
Well I was looking at your chart.My comments were about that. You asked about your own pain and why you may have it. I was addressing that IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 1859 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted January 01, 2012 04:13 PM
my chiron aspects..Chiron – Moon: In the natal chart, a positive aspect can indicate a person who is extremely sensitive, empathic and mystical. “Boundary problems” are a big-time problem here, regardless of the supportive or challenging aspects. The degree to which this is a problem will be indicated by the aspects. Anyone with a Chiron-Moon placement should learn grounding principles and psychic protection. There can be indications of rejection by the mother if the aspects are challenging. Chiron – Mars: If you want to discover the true meaning of the old phrase “immovable object meets irresistible force”, get in between this native and some goal they have in mind. This placement can be described as the sacred warrior archetype. They are not afraid to pick up the sword in defense of others, and can be drawn to military careers. Energy and intuition come together with a strong drive to take action, to accomplish demonstrable goals. In early life, they may feel that their personal desires were challenged continually, so they fight hard for their desires. They do not count on others to come to their rescue. These people tend to take on leadership positions, but can become dictators if the placement is challenging. If their desire to lead is thwarted, they can become bitter and petty. Chiron – Nodes: This placement is strongly indicative of an important karmic lifetime. The native may exhibit strong interest in spiritual or holistic healing, and they are often powerful teachers and leaders. They may struggle in early life to achieve social acceptance. Chiron – MC: Chiron placed in this position is a strong indicator that the native’s career will have some kind of Chironic flavor. They can end up as teachers, healers or leaders. At the same time, they remain perpetual students (which may be one key to their frequent successes in such fields). The early career is mainly set back by feelings of low self-worth, which they overcome so they are stronger examples of the lessons they will teach. minor ones… Chiron – Neptune: A stressful Neptune-Chiron placement can indicate that the native is, frankly, not living in the real world. They can often be quite aware that they are “professional daydreamers”, and a career in the arts, television or film can be a positive expression of a good contact between these two planets. However, they can indicate self-deception and delusional thinking, drug and sexual abuse when they are strongly challenged. It is Neptune that will tell the astrologer where this client’s “idealism”, their dreams and desires, are strongest. Chiron – Pluto: The native blessed (or cursed) with this combination is intense, dramatic, profound and deep. There can be deep and hidden scars from childhood that either strengthen or break the individual later in life. Stressed, there can be huge struggles throughout life, and there is a virtual certainty of some form of childhood abandonment or rejection. If you have this placement, there are two keys to healing: Know yourself, and find a way to turn your own pain into a tool to heal others. http://www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat02.html
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Chironrising Knowflake Posts: 201 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 02, 2012 07:23 PM
are you asking me directly, or are you just stating in the subject questions about chiron for a general answer?IP: Logged |