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Topic: How is Venus Your Self Esteem?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30126 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 08:56 AM
This point was brought up in the PR forum. Is Venus your self esteem. If so,how? Thanks so much!IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30126 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 09:01 AM
Venus shows what you will love.I get that. But does it show HOW you will love,also. So, by definition would that include how you would love yourself. That would define self esteem. PS Personal readings is so much fun.Anyone who wants to learn ,come down and jump in. You will be challenged in wonderful ways such as my contemplating this!
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30126 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 09:17 AM
How would an unaspected Venus be--self esteem wise?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30126 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 09:44 AM
For that matter would a Retro Venus make self esteem hard to get?Then,we have a 12th house Venus.Would that make self esteem very hard to access,also? IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 3028 From: Saturn-free H12 ;) Registered: Aug 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 10:06 AM
Self-value to Venus. Self-esteem to Sun,if I'd to strictly tell them apart. My Venus is Cancer,and I like to nuture myself,a lot,one may call it self-indulgence IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30126 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 10:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by VenusDiSirius: Self-value to Venus. Self-esteem to Sun,if I'd to strictly tell them apart. My Venus is Cancer,and I like to nuture myself,a lot,one may call it self-indulgence
OK Can you explain the difference in words,please. Don't mean to be dumb but really trying to get the subtleties. Thank you IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 3028 From: Saturn-free H12 ;) Registered: Aug 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 10:14 AM
Self-value is lovng urself,self-esteem is respecting urself IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 10:27 AM
Whats my Venus doing Amy?IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic Knowflake Posts: 935 From: England Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 10:51 AM
yep I'd agree with the self esteem/value clarification by venusdisirius, except I'd interpret more literally on the value side in that you wouldn't value yourself much if venus is afflicted or should I say you won't value its qualities easily.I have no problems respecting myself but I do have issues in giving myself value, this manifests quite literally as being unsure as to how much I'm worth for work (venus in 10th) IP: Logged |
Chelsey Knowflake Posts: 41 From: arlington,va,us Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 11:30 AM
I know with me I'm a sun in Libra so my ego deals with how beautiful,intelligent,and popular I am.my Venus in Scorpio tones down the lavish elegance and makes me feel seductive and powerful.so with me feeling like that it makes my self esteem sky rocket almost to the point that I would walk out the house looking like a tease and yes it makes feels so good to have powerful beauty and swagg.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30126 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 11:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by AstrologicalMan: Whats my Venus doing Amy?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30126 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 11:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic: yep I'd agree with the self esteem/value clarification by venusdisirius, except I'd interpret more literally on the value side in that you wouldn't value yourself much if venus is afflicted or should I say you won't value its qualities easily.I have no problems respecting myself but I do have issues in giving myself value, this manifests quite literally as being unsure as to how much I'm worth for work (venus in 10th)
Brilliant Quinn Thank you Just the sort of info I was looking for! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30126 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 11:44 AM
OK lets go from here Venus in the houses--what does that mean.Can you elaborate Quinn?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30126 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 11:46 AM
Ok Quinn Back to your exampleSo could we say you GET your value(or lack of it) from 10th house things?
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Lonake Moderator Posts: 6852 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 25, 2011 07:42 PM
Venus could be tied to self worth, Venus acts as a valuing agent.Self-esteem, however, is tied to the Sun. IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic Knowflake Posts: 935 From: England Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 08:19 PM
yes partly to do with the house and part from the sign itself, my poor venus is in virgo, so I'm supposed to value analysis, efficiency and a few other things which I do, I also value having a career goal and ambition (10th) but what I can't do is put a price on it. But the house is the area in life that we get it from and the sign says how we go about getting it. I do get self worth from work - or should I say from working towards goals and from being efficient. Sometimes I battle between fixing a price for my time because a part of me feels its priceless not worthless.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30126 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 08:27 PM
Ok I have Venus in the 7th in Gemini. I love anything of the mind,communication, books etc How would the 7th house play out. Would I get my self esteem from partnerships? Hmmm Does that make me a natural co-dependent IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30126 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 08:27 PM
Ok I have Venus in the 7th in Gemini. I love anything of the mind,communication, books etc How would the 7th house play out. Would I get my self esteem from partnerships? Hmmm Does that make me a natural co-dependent IP: Logged |
frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 471 From: yep,ks,usa Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 08:38 PM
My Venus is in Scorpio in my 1st house (appearance). My self-esteem relies greatly on my appearance and how I feel about my looks. If I feel I look ugly or unattractive, I am depressed and miserable. If I feel I look good, I express my true self easily and feel confident and happy all the time. It seems shallow, but I have ALWAYS been like this. IP: Logged |
enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 468 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 25, 2011 08:39 PM
quote: yep I'd agree with the self esteem/value clarification by venusdisirius, except I'd interpret more literally on the value side in that you wouldn't value yourself much if venus is afflicted or should I say you won't value its qualities easily.
YESSSS... I would agree with that. I feel that for me, it's not so much that I don't value MYSELF (because I DO value myself), but I don't feel like I value the Venusian QUALITIES in myself. I have Venus retrograde (in Virgo, squaring Chiron in the 7th, Jupiter in the 1st). I think that sometimes, being the Venus retrograde that I am, I feel like I have to protect myself (because I feel super sensitive internally; thank you chiron) and to do that, I have to be very survivalist and SUPER independent. Only recently (after my sun progressed into Libra) did I allow anyone to give to ME and only now have I really been seeing the value of allowing others to help me. It's camaraderie, partnership, and teamwork (Libra) over independence and individualism (Aries). IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian Knowflake Posts: 956 From: Yo mama Registered: Jan 2010
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posted July 26, 2011 12:16 AM
Yes yes, I have Venus in Cap conjunct Saturn o_o Well needless to say I don't have that great of self-esteem. I can get very insecure when it comes to doing my best and failing. Its in my second house, hmm not sure how that plays out. My possessions and money really play not part in my self esteem. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 6852 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 26, 2011 12:28 AM
Guys, self-esteem is the Sun, not Venus.To emphasize this point, when someone talks about self-actualization, they are speaking about the Sun in astrology, not Venus. Sun can have you trapped at a desk job selling yourself short, when you dream of being a comic book artist, so you work on your lunch break making your own comic strip to sell to realize that dream. Self esteem can be built by challenging your pre-conceived limits. Venus can have you trapped in a dead end relationship with you feeling as if no one else would want you so you better stay cos this is as good as it's gonna get. So one day it clicks and you look back at all the other people who were interested in you and you see that he is not the only one out there and that you deserve better. Self worth can be challenged by placing a higher price on your value. I hope you see the difference now. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 6852 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 26, 2011 12:35 AM
I found this related to the Hero's Journey, which is perfect for the Sun quote: Followers of astrology are often given an idea that they are supposed to be like their Sun sign, but often it works the other way around: the Sun sign presents us with a kind of objective, and we can gradually develop into that as we live and grow. (...) The Sun symbolizes your capacity to self-actualize your potential through the Hero/ine's journey. The Sun is present- and future-oriented, because you are engaged in the process of becoming. So your Sun sign and the house of your Sun (these are two different things; for the house of your Sun, you would need to cast your chart, with your correct birth time) represent an area of life you are actively exploring (daytime/yang) and in the process of developing and refining.
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frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 471 From: yep,ks,usa Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 26, 2011 01:24 AM
Hmm...I don't see how my Sun affects my self-esteem at all. But I see how my Venus does.Sun in Capricorn, 2nd house, conjunct Neptune IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 3080 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 26, 2011 01:26 AM
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