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Topic: Sun Conjunct Saturn
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weako
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From: victoria,bc,canada
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posted July 27, 2011 03:02 PM
  
any one have any insightful thoughts about this aspects? can't find anything satisfying on the netthx IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted July 27, 2011 03:11 PM
This would make the person insecure.Did you mean the natal?IP: Logged |
weako
Newflake Posts: 7
From: victoria,bc,canada
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posted July 27, 2011 03:13 PM
ya natal aspect IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
Knowflake Posts: 1298
From: Saturn-free H12 ;)
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted July 27, 2011 03:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This would make the person insecure.Did you mean the natal?
Why? IP: Logged |
nordicsoul
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posted July 27, 2011 03:21 PM
sun has to do with ego. saturn restrict the ego. there is the feeling that they always has to achieve something to be appreciated.too hard on themselves and can expect the negative. they are not the most optimistic people, should i say. IP: Logged |
DayandNight21
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posted July 27, 2011 03:30 PM
Context is important with this aspect.
Sun saturn are enemies so you would think any combo would be bad, not so.
I know 2 sun conjunct pluto which could lead to egomania but both also have it in aspect to saturn (one quintile and one conjunct) and that reigns in the ego so is quite good, they are both good natured and the leo in one makes her sunny despite sun conjunct saturn. No egomania at all (leos are not egomaniacs in my book) but boy can she work, I cannot keep up! Another one I know is not sun conjunct pluto but is sun virgo conjunct saturn in leo in 2nd and clairvision rates her saturn at 200 so super strong, she is a very difficult lady probably too much saturn although it is due to aspects (not signs or houses)!! So you have 3 egs of sun saturn above, 2 work well and 1 does not. I am interested in sun saturn aspects at the moment especially how it manifests in the man. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted July 27, 2011 03:31 PM
 could be restricting ego,but also keepin it in check?
Responsible,hard-working,full of principles people.IP: Logged |
DayandNight21
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posted July 27, 2011 03:43 PM
I like that last comment above and think it is apt for the people I know, definately no nonsense people. I have mercury in pisces which is totally unrealistic thinking and the sun saturn people would ground me every time and save me from some potentially awful situations. Luckily my mercury is now in gemini. On the other hand i couldn't get away with anything with them, their principles were so strong. My wish for daydreaming went straight out the window! astrofix.net has a good article on sun saturn aspects and gives examples of famous people with it. A good starting point. IP: Logged |
sand
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posted July 27, 2011 04:15 PM
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DayandNight21
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posted July 27, 2011 04:31 PM
It is interesting that some view the conjunct as a hard aspect and others as a soft aspect or could go either way aspect. In this case the females with sun conjunct saturn have had offspring so i would not read it as a hard aspect. Thats my choice from experience and I have a lot of respect for these women. Sun conjunct saturn in men I know little about but sun trine saturn in the men i have known has made them cold blooded/ambitious that nothing will stop. IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted July 27, 2011 05:35 PM
It seems to me that when a planet is conjuncting the Sun, that person has qualities of that planet. Same with strongest planets.For myself, Venus and Jupiter are close to my Sun and, considering all aspects and positions, they're my strongest planets. You could say I have Venusian and Jovian traits, but that would be kind of an understatement. An acquaintance of mine has a (Leo) Sun really close to her Saturn and no other planet. She's really stern and father-like. Very hard worker too - all her work in school was always done and on time. A Capricorn Moon probably helps this. IP: Logged |
weako
Newflake Posts: 7
From: victoria,bc,canada
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 27, 2011 07:31 PM
the person i posted about in my previous thread has this aspect(gemini sun conjunct sag saturn) and i think this aspect has a lot to do with who he is. I have noticed something very odd about him regarding pride/ego etc...he has clearly emphasized on many occasions that he "hates to feel proud" and that he would try to tame his "ego" if he were to ever catch himself in the middle of a "proud" moment. it is like he is ashamed to feel that way always trying to deflate his ego. Interesting to read the comments above. also, he has leo moon, aren't people with this placement usually somewhat egocentric? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 17180
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 27, 2011 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by weako:
the person i posted about in my previous thread has this aspect(gemini sun conjunct sag saturn) and i think this aspect has a lot to do with who he is. I have noticed something very odd about him regarding pride/ego etc...he has clearly emphasized on many occasions that he "hates to feel proud" and that he would try to tame his "ego" if he were to ever catch himself in the middle of a "proud" moment. it is like he is ashamed to feel that way always trying to deflate his ego. Interesting to read the comments above. also, he has leo moon, aren't people with this placement usually somewhat egocentric?
That seems like it would be a hard combo all around . IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
Knowflake Posts: 1298
From: Saturn-free H12 ;)
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted July 27, 2011 07:41 PM
Weako,that could also be sign of Saturn's refining influences. If u look at Saturn as big bad planet,u won't find much.IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
Knowflake Posts: 1491
From: Betty Boop Land
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 27, 2011 09:06 PM
It could give you a Capricorn vibe. You find it easy to be in control of people/situations. You don't get paranoid or scared easily. You usually know what you want and have plans to get it. You could be more focused on your career than you are on other things - finding love etc... trivial. On the down side - yes it could mean you are cautious/insecure.. waiting more time than necessary to make your move. But on the bright side it would mean that you don't make many mistakes as your actions are calculated. Generally on online websites - if you ever get feedback that is either black or white.... ignore it. Because it is such a LOAD OF POOP.
I mean you have the aspect and you know how it plays out in your life. We all have strengths and weaknesses and basically every aspect you have can generate both ^ IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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From: Betty Boop Land
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 27, 2011 09:13 PM
Someone above mentioned Gemini Sun conjunct Sag Saturn. This is not possible. Gemini Sun is opposite Sag Saturn.The opposition and square are harsh aspects. The conjunction is not like an opposition or a square. I know a man with Sag Sun conj his Saturn in Sag. He is not like what you described. IP: Logged |
sassaqua
Knowflake Posts: 321
From: Australia
Registered: May 2011
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posted July 27, 2011 10:32 PM
Hello,I have learned, from my own error that the aspects to a conjunction simply must be taken into account. A conjunction being a blending of two planets - you could even see it as one planet. Therefore, as we do with any one planet, we must analyse the aspects to the conjunction. I almost don't even take a conjunction as 2 planets but rather as a type of hybrid planet. Then I see what other aspects are doing to this weird freak of nature in the chart 
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amowls**
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posted July 27, 2011 11:45 PM
Sun/Saturn can command a lot of authority, too, however.IP: Logged |
sand
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posted July 28, 2011 12:53 AM
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Betty Boop
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From: Betty Boop Land
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 28, 2011 01:50 AM
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I almost don't even take a conjunction as 2 planets but rather as a type of hybrid planet
This is so true about the conjunction. This is how I see it also. It doesn't feel like an aspect - It feels like the planets become one.
I have Mars/Nept conj. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
Knowflake Posts: 1491
From: Betty Boop Land
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 28, 2011 01:51 AM
Sometimes in synastry it feels like this as well.. depending on how close you get. IP: Logged |
sassaqua
Knowflake Posts: 321
From: Australia
Registered: May 2011
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posted July 28, 2011 02:15 AM
I agree Betty. Sometimes those conjunctions in synastry can be claustraphobic even.Added to this, if one person has difficult aspects to that conjunction it can mean trouble. I learned this recently  IP: Logged |
DayandNight21
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posted July 28, 2011 07:30 AM
Saturn can be obnoxious commons sense, I have a fairly strong saturn but sun trine neptune to balance it out and uranus is fairly strong too.
This is an eg of when uranus and neptune can actually do some good. I am NOT a fan of Saturn, but understand the necessity for what it represents. In the progressed my Saturn is weak and all i think about is venus trine neptune = love to love you baby donna summer!!!
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popcorn
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posted July 28, 2011 07:51 AM
I agree with Awowls.
Saturn Will always be strong in connection. I see like that there are not any bad aspects. People make bad choices because bad thoughts.IP: Logged |
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