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RedScorp
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posted July 27, 2011 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AstrologicalMan, may you post your chart, please and thank you?

This person I know has an abundance of hard aspects compared to easy aspects (10:5, not counting conjuncts as I consider them neither hard or easy). He is a very self-conflicted person. Hard to make friends with, he's hard to put up with in general. He exiles himself with his actions and has a bad rep for his personality.

So, my point, what affect does a number of hard aspects in contrast to easy aspects have on a person? Conflict within?

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posted July 27, 2011 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chelsey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think conflict within. I think planets conjuncting, trining and sextile makes the person very smooth and understanding. but opposites and squaring are so conflicting and complicated.I think it brings an expression and power struggle in a person.

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posted July 27, 2011 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His chart does not strike me as one with an unusual number of hard aspects..

I'll post it, if he wants it posted. AstroMan?

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AstrologicalMan
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posted July 27, 2011 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, post it.

I'm hard to make friends with and I have a bad rep?

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Chelsey
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posted July 27, 2011 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chelsey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's your placements astroman?

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AstrologicalMan
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posted July 27, 2011 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chelsey:
What's your placements astroman?

What does that mean? Like what planets are in what houses?

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Chelsey
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posted July 28, 2011 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chelsey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is your sun Sign, your moon,mercury in etcetera

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sand
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posted July 28, 2011 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
So, my point, what affect does a number of hard aspects in contrast to easy aspects have on a person? Conflict within?

contradiction i think..

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AstrologicalMan
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posted July 28, 2011 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chelsey:
What is your sun Sign, your moon,mercury in etcetera

Sun sign Leo. Scorpio Moon. Mercury Libra or Mercury Leo, one of the two

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posted July 28, 2011 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok here is AstroMan's chart:


It's his birthday today actually!
Here is his birthday thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/002652.html

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posted July 28, 2011 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chelsey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see anything wrong with your chart is actually quite attractive to me.your very strong and exciting by your chart I think you have great placements for a man.

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sand
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posted July 28, 2011 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ehehe how nice! happy birthday too AM!

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AstrologicalMan
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posted July 29, 2011 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
ehehe how nice! happy birthday too AM!

Thank You.

I had the most uncelebrated birthday in the history of birthdays. I kind of like it that way though.

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AstrologicalMan
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posted July 29, 2011 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chelsey:
I don't see anything wrong with your chart is actually quite attractive to me.your very strong and exciting by your chart I think you have great placements for a man.

It is? What do you mean?

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Airi
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posted July 29, 2011 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Airi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would think with all that libra you would actually have an easy time making friends, and be quite charming.

your scorpio moon would belie your true feelings or intentions though.

i think what the main issue is that you have a hard time communicating, or at least to the extent you think is appropiate, and that you don't seem to trust your instincts or feelings.

i think you are a person who underestimates themselves and their abilities, and maybe you feeling other people also underestimate you or under appreciates you as well.

also just like to point out, most of your planets are in a conjunct - even with loose ones this means that the energy of one planet will always have an effect on the other. In a matter of speaking, they are joined. it's a little different from the tines and squares, because let's take your sun/merc conjunct. anything affecting the mercury (which is a lot) will also, equally affect your sun, since they are conjunct (the opposite is also true.)

i think if you find things getting to be difficult or unbearable, you should channel your Uranus. Be spontaneous! Absolutely random! And don't think about it too hard, just go DO something.

hoping that this isn't really too off the mark since i rarely interpret other people's charts lol

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posted July 29, 2011 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Airi:
I would think with all that libra you would actually have an easy time making friends, and be quite charming.

your scorpio moon would belie your true feelings or intentions though.

i think what the main issue is that you have a hard time communicating, or at least to the extent you think is appropiate, and that you don't seem to trust your instincts or feelings.

i think you are a person who underestimates themselves and their abilities, and maybe you feeling other people also underestimate you or under appreciates you as well.

also just like to point out, most of your planets are in a conjunct - even with loose ones this means that the energy of one planet will always have an effect on the other. In a matter of speaking, they are joined. it's a little different from the tines and squares, because let's take your sun/merc conjunct. anything affecting the mercury (which is a lot) will also, equally affect your sun, since they are conjunct (the opposite is also true.)

i think if you find things getting to be difficult or unbearable, you should channel your Uranus. Be spontaneous! Absolutely random! And don't think about it too hard, just go DO something.

hoping that this isn't really too off the mark since i rarely interpret other people's charts lol


Wow! This really resonated with me! Very, very interesting. Your last statement is perfection.

It is extremely easy for me to make friends. I can talk to anyone. Like, it seems wherever I go, a crowd of people literally form around me. It is like I am a magnet. I can go sit down in a chair somewhere and then one person will sit next to me. I will strike up a conversation with them, then a few minutes later more people will come around me and before I know it, there is a party going on.

There is also that same reaction but in a negative way. I can gather a large growing group of people that have this intense malice for me just by being too inquisitive or too open about how free I am . It is like one person gets offended by something that I do and wants to bring their entire world against me. So I have had crowds of people form against me wanting to beat me. I do not even try though. If I wanted to really anger people or rawl them up, I would be wary of the results.

Although I have this ability, for some reason my relationships don't last before I am off meeting other new people. I am like a one night stand (not in a sexual sense) for a lot of people, if that makes sense. I know that I could have lasting relationships with people, it just never seems to happen. So often I find myself alone. It is strange. I feel completely connected and completely isolated from everyone if that makes sense?

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DayandNight21
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posted July 29, 2011 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayandNight21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Astrological Man
I understand you want to be a part of her and her issues but you may not be able to solve them. Long term there could be coldness appearing between the two of you down the line possibly where you feel you have done all you can to help and her issues don't get solved?
Wouldn't you want to avoid that situation.
Or are you more positive than me and believe you can resolve the problems.

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posted July 29, 2011 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayandNight21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry posted on wrong thread but it is still about astrological man and the pisces.

Also astrological man has quite a high powered chart think how many celebs have sun leo scorp moon like lisa kudrow, possibly jennifer lopez (some say moon in aries for her), ben affleck etc and he has saturn conj pluto which is ability to handle power so think he will be wearing the pants in the relationship and pisces often do look for a strong partner.

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posted July 29, 2011 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Airi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AstrologicalMan:
Wow! This really resonated with me! Very, very interesting. Your last statement is perfection.

It is extremely easy for me to make friends. I can talk to anyone. Like, it seems wherever I go, a crowd of people literally form around me. It is like I am a magnet. I can go sit down in a chair somewhere and then one person will sit next to me. I will strike up a conversation with them, then a few minutes later more people will come around me and before I know it, there is a party going on.

There is also that same reaction but in a negative way. I can gather a large growing group of people that have this intense malice for me just by being too inquisitive or too open about how free I am . It is like one person gets offended by something that I do and wants to bring their entire world against me. So I have had crowds of people form against me wanting to beat me. I do not even try though. If I wanted to really anger people or rawl them up, I would be wary of the results.

Although I have this ability, for some reason my relationships don't last before I am off meeting other new people. I am like a one night stand (not in a sexual sense) for a lot of people, if that makes sense. I know that I could have lasting relationships with people, it just never seems to happen. So often I find myself alone. It is strange. I feel completely connected and completely isolated from everyone if that makes sense?


yes, that doesn't surprise me, with two big key planets in leo and a stellium in libra there is something very attractive about you, either your aura, the way you present yourself, or maybe something in your personality is very magnetic.

as you well know, drawing attention in such a manner is not always a good thing. i think it suits your purposes in many ways though since a scorpio moon person would want to know what is going on around them, always get a feel for the situation but by the same token, hate to give up their own secrets. this is why you hate all the questions and prodding - if you wanted to know you have have told them in the first place (especially given a merc in leo, they can have foot in mouth disease as bad as any Sag). You like to know what is going on with other people and your surroundings however wish for privacy for yourself. In most cases you are distrusting of people and what they could do to you or loved ones if they found a "weakness". It's a defense mechanism, a good one at that, but one that may also keep your allies out with your enemies. It's not necessarily a bad thing or a good thing that you are like this, it's just the nature of scorpio moons. that's not to say this is the only side of this moon - it is incredibly tenacious and loyal, but just more discriminatory with it's blessings compared other moons. (my own moon could use a lesson from this) that being said i do think there is also a certain disconnect from your moon/feelings. You want to trust in it, sometimes you could kick yourself for not, but it's very nature seems contradictory to yourself or what you believe in (your sun).

how do you feel about friendships and relationships? because to me, it seems like the leo and libra are more accepting of freedom and more at peace with a "que sara sara" type of out look, while your scorpio moon would, to an extent fear intimacy because of how much it craves it.

another interesting note, your north node (that which you should strive to learn/understand/become for your soul to grow) is also in the same sign in which your venus sign (what you find attractive or beautiful) is in, both of which in the 11th house (house of friendship). The venus is also trine your moon, in your fourth house. The fourth house is ruled by Cancer. Do you have any female cancerian friends? I think there is potential for a lot of growth there, especially since Leo and Cancer are semisextile to each other. A lot of people don't really care for that aspect since it is minor but if you look at mythology, the Sun and Moon are represented by the twins Apollo and Artemis. Most of the time their boundaries are completely separated and segregated, however there are also times when they can relate to each other like no other two signs can. semisextiles have a unique bond with each other in my opinion.

if you really want something to last though (for better or worse, be careful what you wish for) you need saturn to "stickify" it. this can be a rough aspect or a harmonious one, but saturn is more or less the duct tape of the universe.

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posted July 29, 2011 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WHOA NOW, WHOOOOOOA. I was talking about a completely different person. This thread was really just two topics in one. I wished to see AstrologicalMan's chart then move onto the subject of people with high hard aspects.

Sorry for the confusion.

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posted July 29, 2011 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 29, 2011 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DayandNight21:
Hi Astrological Man
I understand you want to be a part of her and her issues but you may not be able to solve them. Long term there could be coldness appearing between the two of you down the line possibly where you feel you have done all you can to help and her issues don't get solved?
Wouldn't you want to avoid that situation.
Or are you more positive than me and believe you can resolve the problems.


It called me.

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AstrologicalMan
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posted July 29, 2011 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DayandNight21:
Sorry posted on wrong thread but it is still about astrological man and the pisces.

Also astrological man has quite a high powered chart think how many celebs have sun leo scorp moon like lisa kudrow, possibly jennifer lopez (some say moon in aries for her), ben affleck etc and he has saturn conj pluto which is ability to handle power so think he will be wearing the pants in the relationship and pisces often do look for a strong partner.


Yeah. I am a celebrity. It is really the world that I belong in. But I do not want to be apart of it, I want to become them, so I can destroy them. This isn't as bad as it sounds. Celebrities are evil.

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posted July 29, 2011 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
WHOA NOW, WHOOOOOOA. I was talking about a completely different person. This thread was really just two topics in one. I wished to see AstrologicalMan's chart then move onto the subject of people with high hard aspects.

Sorry for the confusion.


Why would anyone want to talk about anything else other than my chart?

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posted July 29, 2011 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Airi:
yes, that doesn't surprise me, with two big key planets in leo and a stellium in libra there is something very attractive about you, either your aura, the way you present yourself, or maybe something in your personality is very magnetic.

as you well know, drawing attention in such a manner is not always a good thing. i think it suits your purposes in many ways though since a scorpio moon person would want to know what is going on around them, always get a feel for the situation but by the same token, hate to give up their own secrets. this is why you hate all the questions and prodding - if you wanted to know you have have told them in the first place (especially given a merc in leo, they can have foot in mouth disease as bad as any Sag). You like to know what is going on with other people and your surroundings however wish for privacy for yourself. In most cases you are distrusting of people and what they could do to you or loved ones if they found a "weakness". It's a defense mechanism, a good one at that, but one that may also keep your allies out with your enemies. It's not necessarily a bad thing or a good thing that you are like this, it's just the nature of scorpio moons. that's not to say this is the only side of this moon - it is incredibly tenacious and loyal, but just more discriminatory with it's blessings compared other moons. (my own moon could use a lesson from this) that being said i do think there is also a certain disconnect from your moon/feelings. You want to trust in it, sometimes you could kick yourself for not, but it's very nature seems contradictory to yourself or what you believe in (your sun).

how do you feel about friendships and relationships? because to me, it seems like the leo and libra are more accepting of freedom and more at peace with a "que sara sara" type of out look, while your scorpio moon would, to an extent fear intimacy because of how much it craves it.

another interesting note, your north node (that which you should strive to learn/understand/become for your soul to grow) is also in the same sign in which your venus sign (what you find attractive or beautiful) is in, both of which in the 11th house (house of friendship). The venus is also trine your moon, in your fourth house. The fourth house is ruled by Cancer. Do you have any female cancerian friends? I think there is potential for a lot of growth there, especially since Leo and Cancer are semisextile to each other. A lot of people don't really care for that aspect since it is minor but if you look at mythology, the Sun and Moon are represented by the twins Apollo and Artemis. Most of the time their boundaries are completely separated and segregated, however there are also times when they can relate to each other like no other two signs can. semisextiles have a unique bond with each other in my opinion.

if you really want something to last though (for better or worse, be careful what you wish for) you need saturn to "stickify" it. this can be a rough aspect or a harmonious one, but saturn is more or less the duct tape of the universe.


I can't stop clinching my jaw and now it is hurting.

Another interesting post!

I am never worried or distrusting that people could find a weakness in me or loved one. I have reached a certain realization where there isn't much that anyone could do to effect me. I welcome that challenge. It is fun for me when anyone attempts it because it just makes me even more aware and powerful. So, I don't understand where you got that.

Also, I am very in tune with my feelings. I embrace my feelings.

With friendships and relationships I am open and will go as far as the relationship is required to do so. I understand that every type of relationship with someone serves a specific purpose. When this purpose is fulfilled, the relationship becomes whole and you take those lessons with you onto the next bond. At the same time, once I have formed a personal relationship with someone, I never forget it and they never forget me. They become a special symbol representing that moment in my journey.

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