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Benedict Moon*
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posted August 04, 2011 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I'm thinking my Gemini Venus should just accept that I'm essentially a loner. Having a few people to be close to is nice, but I can't be that person who connects so easily with other people. That's the paradox of water placements, I think. The value emotional connections, but either can't make them with other people or are very selective about it (privacy and all).

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downtomars
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posted November 05, 2011 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sagittarius rules my 11th house and Neptune is in there - my "friends" are doubly unreliable! I have a very easy time “making friends” because people seem to feel comfortable around me right away, and when I say right away I mean I don’t have to say a word and people just come up to me with their life stories.

Just this past Tuesday I was applying for a job in a preschool and the receptionist told me about her credit score being low and how she was filing for bankruptcy. I think I just said “Hello”. On the way there the cab driver told me about his ex-wife who gets 85% of his pension (he is an ex-NYC cop) and she has been married five times…I could probably write a book about this man. All I said was “Good, how are you?” Then yesterday, before the interview, I saw a former co-worker who was dropping her child off at a daycare program and she talked my ear off about her job and her make-up. She asked for my cell number and I accidentally gave her my old number. I didn’t realize I gave her the old one until after the interview! I thought ”did I write ‘8724’?”. Oh well, I guess I subconsciously gave her the wrong number because I don’t care to have the lunch or the drink she was talking about. This happens every time I leave the house.

I try to keep in touch with some people but life just gets in the way and I don’t have the time for petty little lunches and causal drinks. I like deeper relations (Moon-Pluto conjunction in Libra, Pluto in the 8th and Moon on 9th house cusp). I have always gotten along with men better so I have an easier time keeping in touch with them because they are low maintenance. Plus, I don’t do the faux sexual tension thing with them either. Meaning, I know I don’t want to date or sleep with my guy friends and I don't need to dangle the sex carrot just to feed my ego. We just have a good time being ourselves.

I don’t really have friend-friends though but that is fine with me. I actually have some older female friends who are more like mentors (that could go along with Sag on the cusp as well). I used to have a group of toxic girlfriends that I used to be super close and faithfully attached to when I was in my early 20s. Let’s just say that I learned a lot from that experience!

So, I know to keep my many, many acquaintances at arm's length but it doesn’t stop them from spilling their guts to me about every deep, dark secret they have. I don’t reciprocate, they just think that I am a great listener but I do use them as examples on the board! I spill my own guts on anonymous message boards, lol!

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lechien
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posted November 05, 2011 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im cracking up downtomars, ahh people!

i can relate a bit with the Sagittarius and Neptune thing, in my case it's my 1st house. so i do have that quality that makes people feel ok to spill out their private life. i don't really mind, but i can get a bit bored with that... not that i don't care, you know...

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downtomars
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posted November 05, 2011 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lechien:
im cracking up downtomars, ahh people!

i can relate a bit with the Sagittarius and Neptune thing, in my case it's my 1st house. so i do have that quality that makes people feel ok to spill out their private life. i don't really mind, but i can get a bit bored with that... not that i don't care, you know...


Okay, so it is the Sagittarius-Neptune thing. Do you have a lot of planets in the 7th as well? I thought that maybe, in my case, that had something to do with it. Just continually having to deal with other people even when you are trying to "hide out" or keep a low profile. I have Jupiter in the 7th trining Neptune in the 11th exact! I think you were the one who started the thread about being misanthropic, I should comment on that as well Lechien!

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posted November 05, 2011 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh yea, i just saw your comment on the other thread.

i don't know what exactly Neptune does in this context, but i have noticed that it lets people misunderstand me. Neptune rules my IC, so it may be giving out the impression that they can feel cosy with me, especially it's widely conjunct my AC so that's one of the first impressions i make on people, at least in person.

when it's a good/harmless kind of misunderstanding, that's ok. but i often do get not-so-nice interpretations too.

i only have Jupiter in 7th house, but it's my chart ruler so it plays a big role, i think.

and i'm on the same boat, people don't let me get into the "low-profile" mode and i feel immensely guilty... i don't think that's right...

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posted November 05, 2011 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
11th house cusp in Scorpio, with Pluto in Libra conjunct MC in 10th house.
Uranus is on 1 Scorpio conjunct the 11th house cusp with not even half a degree (but technically from 10th house).

I do not have many friends, but those I have are for life.
My best friend and me have even been visiting the same university, and have the same job, though at different schools.

My friends tend to have strong Pluto or planets in Aquarius; of course this reflects my parents as well (Mum is Scorpio, Dad an Aqua).


My best friend here (known her for more than 20 years, more than half my life!) is a Virgo but has a big conjunction of Mercury-Venus-Mars-Pluto in Libra, falling onto my Pluto,a nd her Moon is in 11th house.

I`m also good friends with her husband, and turns out his Moon in Aquarius conjuncts my Moon by 2 degrees. lol

my best emailfriend (we`ve known each other for 7 or 8 years; emailing each other for 6 years, and still exchange emails at least twice a week - each of us, usually in the length of a small novel! lol) has a Sun-Saturn-MC-conjunction in Aquarius, falling flat onto my Moon.

Another friend had a stellium of Sun, Moon and Venus in Aquarius, fallin onto my Moon.


I guess, you could call that a pattern!

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lechien
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posted November 05, 2011 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceridwen, which house is your moon in?

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Leonine8
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posted November 05, 2011 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leonine8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Empty 11th. Would someone's Saturn in your 11th be a serious friendship, if well-aspected?

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frankie2912
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posted November 05, 2011 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
11th house Virgo. nothing there. its ruler (Mercury) is in my 2nd house, square my Mars and conjunct my Uranus. It is conjunct my Sun.


I'm very picky with my friends..I have few close ones and more acquaintances. The friends I do have are like me in most of our viewpoints and in our passion/outspoken nature. Must be the 11th house Ruler's aspects that define my friends, and the Virgo part making ME picky about them.

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Ceridwen
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posted November 05, 2011 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lechien,

my Moon is in 2nd house in Placidus system, and in 3rd house in equal or whole sign houses system. Rules 8th house in all systems.

It is a multilayered Moon I guess, in Aquarius, quinkunx Saturn exactly, in 2nd house, ruling 8th house.

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lechien
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posted November 05, 2011 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leonine8, for me, transit Saturn is just about to enter my 11th house. i'd be curious to see what this will bring into my social life... i hope i get to keep/make only very serious close friends and get rid of the "useless" ones.


Ceridwen, when i have people's planets fall onto my moon, it tends to be very painful and karmic (good and bad), or that they are/feel like a family (in that good and bad way). but it could just as well be because it's also my South Node...

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Leonine8
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posted November 05, 2011 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leonine8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lechien, let us know how that transit goes.

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posted November 05, 2011 05:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo Jupiter in 11th

I don't have any friends at this point! I do consistently get Sagittariuses approaching me (being the outgoing creatures they are, they zoom in towards the most melancholic character in the room..... usually Yours Truly) and I have a casual buddy-buddy thing with one for a while, and then drift apart.

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starfox
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posted November 05, 2011 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find myself surrounded by Taureans and Geminis as friends..

The taureans are good for all my own earth and the geminis are good to teach me ____ something else QED

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posted November 05, 2011 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting thread.
I have an empty 11th house in sag ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is in the 8th/9th cusp (Libra). Most of my friends are people I met when I was living abroad. (I have Venus in the 9th too but in Scorpio.) And I form close bonds to my friends (8th house Jup); those friendships who can't be intense and deep I consider acquaintances. Most of my friends are male and I also like people who are slightly eccentric or have unique personalities (I'm Uranus rising and Uranus in the 8th).

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posted November 05, 2011 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by downtomars:

Just this past Tuesday I was applying for a job in a preschool and the receptionist told me about her credit score being low and how she was filing for bankruptcy. I think I just said “Hello”. On the way there the cab driver told me about his ex-wife who gets 85% of his pension (he is an ex-NYC cop) and she has been married five times…I could probably write a book about this man. All I said was “Good, how are you?” Then yesterday, before the interview, I saw a former co-worker who was dropping her child off at a daycare program and she talked my ear off about her job and her make-up. She asked for my cell number and I accidentally gave her my old number. I didn’t realize I gave her the old one until after the interview! I thought ”did I write ‘8724’?”. Oh well, I guess I subconsciously gave her the wrong number because I don’t care to have the lunch or the drink she was talking about. This happens every time I leave the house.

I recognize myself in these scenarios! I always wonder why the cab drivers are talking to me even when I simply node!!! ROFL! 11th house in Sag too...

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posted November 05, 2011 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i experienced the 11th house transit of uranus all while it transited through pisces.. so, for the last 7 years, i think i had a taste of it.. at the offset, i was living near a military base.. friends came and went like underwear or socks.. my moving around a lot happened, too... towards the end of the transit is where i came to my own and found a crowd that i really vibed with but again, they came and went and i think they came and went even quicker than the rest.. by then, i had already grown used to it so it became no biggie to shrug it off..

as it finishes it off now, i've seen people that i've known before and walked past them as if we've never spoken.

what we did enjoy, was interesting events.. it's the only thing we kind of had in common; we'd meet at the usual hangout spots, we'd all attend the same things.. we'd know the same people.. it was fun.

not much else can be said as none of them ever became close friends and i don't think there are even any of them that i still keep in touch with.

i may know OF them on a social level but that's it.

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posted November 05, 2011 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what did happen is that i got turned on to a whole new level of subculture art and scene.. definitely something that i had been craving for such a loooooooong time! what started happening towards the middle of it is that things were just sooooooo fast that i didn't know when or where i was going anymore.

change was a dish served without calling.

very odd events happened where a night of fun would all of a sudden take a COMPLETE turn! thought that one person ended up being kidnapped one time and it turned out that they kind of were.. they were thrown in the back of someone's car and beaten on til they had a chance to get out and escape.

the 'shock' value was there, for sure~!

sometimes i'd be on alert ALL the time even when going out because i never knew of what to expect.

i had one friend whom had a sun square uranus with me in composite throughout that entire time.. we'd be on/off til not long ago where i cut them off completely as they were called on to be a friend when they were needed and they couldn't be bothered for it til about the next day.. was it serious? yes. call them overnight 'friends'.

what u may find yourself involved in, is with a nice group of folks that have something to do with setting social trends.

lots of bands and things i got turned on to i see are now getting a lot of press and are becoming a little more known so it's a little bizarre and somewhat annoying because u start to get bored with most a lot quicker than some and when there's something they'd like to share, during that transit, i found myself saying 'yeah, i know' a lot more often than i ever had before.

they're all different, some interesting, the irony is that i felt like the outsider even when i felt we had lots in common.. they looked at me as if i was something strange. i felt comfortable because i thought they were what everyone else would consider 'strange' which was ok with me because it had been everything i've been called before but then got there to feel ever more 'strange' amongst those i thought would have lots more in common with me.

u don't exactly belong anywhere during that transit. u start to figure it out and towards the end you kind of begin to own it.

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posted November 06, 2011 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that is VERY interesting, tuxedoMask. as i said before i have Uranus in my 11th house. a lot of what you explained about your transit really apply to my experience. lots of "subculture" exposures, transient friendships and lots of moving and straying, yet never actually belonging to any scenes/groups, like i'm just standing at the edge of the sphere and observing. i kinda hope it won't be like this for the rest of my life, for mine is not a transit...

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Gone for years. Not being replaced.

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posted November 06, 2011 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Malena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 11th house is ruled by Cancer, but because of the way the cusp falls it also contains my Nessus in Leo. I actually do make a lot of "bossy" friends, lol, and the Cancer placement makes a lot of sense because even going back to high school I tended to make friends with older girls and relied on them a lot to teach me "girl things"... My own mom is awesome but she's never been the "let me show you how to put on makeup, honey" type. Looking back, I relied on female friends a lot for that.

The Nessus placement is something I really struggle with. I have been in friendships that did more damage to me than love relationships. I withdraw from friendships too easily now as soon as I sense that happening again... which I know is not right, but I have to consciously fight to keep myself from doing it.

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posted November 06, 2011 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
11th house Pluto. I'm strangely popular enough, but people don't kill my doorbell just to see me, so to speak. But I'm pretty well liked where I go.

I have to say, I often intentionally stay inconspicuous in certain places because I don't always like the obligations that come with being good friends with others. I don't always want to go out every weekend or keep in contact... Unless it's through facebook. Facebook is a godsent for people like me who are usually crap at maintaining social relationships. I can just go on line, have a chat with people I haven't seen in a while to let them know I'm still thinking of them and it doesn't cut in to my household time! Two birds with one stone! Seriously, I think that was my practical Capricorn Mars talking.

I do love all of my friends, but I am so crap at keeping in touch with them, that I tend to lose a lot, or just keep them as acquaintances...

Anyway, so I have Pluto in 11th house. Venus (Libra) rules 11th house and Venus is only conjunct Neptune in 1st. Well, and square my MC if anyone is counting that.

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posted November 06, 2011 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have to say, I often intentionally stay inconspicuous in certain places because I don't always like the obligations that come with being good friends with others. I don't always want to go out every weekend or keep in contact... Unless it's through facebook. Facebook is a godsent for people like me who are usually crap at maintaining social relationships. I can just go on line, have a chat with people I haven't seen in a while to let them know I'm still thinking of them and it doesn't cut in to my household time! Two birds with one stone! Seriously, I think that was my practical Capricorn Mars talking.
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sorry, but i think your Sagi is speaking over your Cap Mars... sounds like me, lol!

a bit off topic, but i'm a bit sick of Facebook atm. i'd been witnessing the aspects of my old friends i never knew... i'm disappointed by many of certain friends of mine, and i don't want to see things from them popping up every hour. it depresses me. isn't there a way to turn off updates from certain people?

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