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Topic: Do Cancer Men do this with women they like
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PiscesGirl
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posted July 29, 2011 12:35 AM
  
I've already asked in another thread about a cancer man that I very much like and believe he likes me a lot too, so here is a new question about something I've been noticing a lot with him lately....he is corrects me fairly often and also trying to mold me in certain ways (like musical taste etc...). Is this typical of a cancer man to a woman he likes a lot. I don't notice him doing this to the others around.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted July 29, 2011 12:44 AM
Can you post his chart?IP: Logged |
PiscesGirl
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posted July 29, 2011 12:52 AM
I don't have his time of birth so I don't know his ascendent and the house placements, but here is what I do have:Sun Cancer 4.10
Moon Sagittarius 21.30
Mercury Cancer 25.17
Venus Gemini 21.47 R
Mars Cancer 28.06
Jupiter Capricorn 3.20 R
Saturn Gemini 13.12
Uranus Libra 14.11
Neptune Sagittarius 3.05 R
Pluto Scorpio 13.39
Asc node Capricorn 26.10 IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan
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posted July 29, 2011 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by PiscesGirl:
I've already asked in another thread about a cancer man that I very much like and believe he likes me a lot too, so here is a new question about something I've been noticing a lot with him lately....he is corrects me fairly often and also trying to mold me in certain ways (like musical taste etc...). Is this typical of a cancer man to a woman he likes a lot. I don't notice him doing this to the others around.
How annoying and unattractive
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Lonake
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posted July 29, 2011 01:02 AM
What do you have in the late Cardinal signs? He has Merc conj Mars in late Cancer. That could be setting something off in your natal if this is something you don't like. Hard to tell much without his tob. He may have Capricorn Moon, they like to pull that sometimes, correcting, etc.As to an answer just based on Sun sign, Cancers like to feel bonded to people they like and ideally you'd have common interests to share that clannish fetish they have. Like I said he has Merc conj Mars in Cancer, Merc conj Mars in Cardinal could def be a sign of pushing your own agenda and having it be 'the way.' Maybe you even have something trine that conj encouraging that behavior in him. IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan
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posted July 29, 2011 01:11 AM
He probably just does this to you because he thinks that you are weak and submissive. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted July 29, 2011 01:14 AM
beware of cancers with venus in gem =/ this coupled with his sag moon ain't looking good... And his venus in retro? Eh. Be very wary.IP: Logged |
tuxedoMask
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posted July 29, 2011 01:19 AM
yeah, it is.. i know of one cancer who tried to mold his date to even stop using bad words and the guy was kind of a control freak and a religious nut.IP: Logged |
seeleah
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posted July 29, 2011 03:33 PM
hey! what up willis? I am a cancer sun and moon and with my gem venus!!!!!!!! what do you mean by that statement! I agree with that saggie moon tho..LOL.....just saying IP: Logged |
crabclaws
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posted July 29, 2011 06:10 PM
Yes I do this alot. It comes off as arrogant and even annoying I like to try to deeply understand what I am saying and what is being said so I like to correct people when they say something that is not making sense to me or that I need clarified.Its true if I feel like I have the answer to something and you say something that dosent makes sense to me Ill correct you, but this dosent mean I am right and I wont get offended if you correct me back and say something that shows me that you know what your talking about. In fact I want you to. Don't take it in a bad way. It also means I am comfortable with you. And never hesitate to say something back if I am not making any sense I wont get offended. As far a music goes I love music all types of music and if you don't have a type of music that you prefer or love then I will try to share my music with you. But I love when you share your music with me. Hope that helps. IP: Logged |
tuxedoMask
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posted July 29, 2011 06:20 PM
what Cancer's like to do, (and i'm clarifying this because even they won't fess up and tell it to you but with pluto opposing their sign, by transit, they're really just gonna have to come to terms with it in one way or the other, so.......) so, since Cancer is ruled by the Moon, they naturally reflect, thus, they either want their partner to be that person whom reflects good on them, or the person who can easily change to embody the counterpart which would be them! the thing get's tricky when Cancer's begin to go about playing that role because of their innate need for security which is why they are considered a water sign and some of the times, perhaps even more manipulative than Scorpio! 'molding' is the key word and if for some reason their need for security (notice i said 'need', not 'want') is therefore heightened to an extreme because of early conditioning, the Cancer molds itself to secure whatever sturdy thing is around with those big ol claws! Picture a crab getting caught in the waves on the beach shore.. Crab finds boulder and probably can't breathe so uses it's unbelievably strong claws to attach itself for self-protection. It will then go about making that little boulder it's temporary home and maybe even nest, no matter how close to shore it is or how far.. It'll work it out because the boulder to them is way more valuable than being caught in that mess all over again! If the boulder then begins to glow little plants because of misplaced seeds, more than likely then, the Crab will remain but just cry... and cry, and cry and cry IP: Logged |
crabclaws
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posted July 29, 2011 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
what Cancer's like to do, (and i'm clarifying this because even they won't fess up and tell it to you but with pluto opposing their sign, by transit, they're really just gonna have to come to terms with it in one way or the other, so.......) so, since Cancer is ruled by the Moon, they naturally reflect, thus, they either want their partner to be that person whom reflects good on them, or the person who can easily change to embody the counterpart which would be them! the thing get's tricky when Cancer's begin to go about playing that role because of their innate need for security which is why they are considered a water sign and some of the times, perhaps even more manipulative than Scorpio! 'molding' is the key word and if for some reason their need for security (notice i said 'need', not 'want') is therefore heightened to an extreme because of early conditioning, the Cancer molds itself to secure whatever sturdy thing is around with those big ol claws! Picture a crab getting caught in the waves on the beach shore.. Crab finds boulder and probably can't breathe so uses it's unbelievably strong claws to attach itself for self-protection. It will then go about making that little boulder it's temporary home and maybe even nest, no matter how close to shore it is or how far.. It'll work it out because the boulder to them is way more valuable than being caught in that mess all over again! If the boulder then begins to glow little plants because of misplaced seeds, more than likely then, the Crab will remain but just cry... and cry, and cry and cry
I like this. If what you mean is that the crab tends to stay somewhere that might not be right for it only for security reasons then yes sadly agree. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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posted July 29, 2011 06:50 PM
Molding someone into what they want is definitely an unevolved cardinal trait, which makes me think his Moon is in Capricorn and not Sagittarius ( and note that I said unevolved trait, not typical). And each Cardinal sign does this for their own elemental reason: an unsecure Cancer would probably do it because.......eff it, I have no idea why, but maybe look to Tom Cruise as an example? His correcting of you is probably the Cap Moon too....I tend to do that alot as a Virgo Moon, but only because I have a peverse need for the correct information to get out.
I'm a Cancer but with alot of mutable energy so this type of behavior (changing people) is totally creepy to me. I mean, why not just FIND a person that is compatible instead of finding an unsuspecting soul to give a makeover?
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PiscesGirl
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posted July 29, 2011 07:37 PM
Perhaps I did not do a good job explaining this. He doesn't do this in an annoying and controlling way at all! Also he doesn't consider me weak and submissive and has NEVER treated me in a demeaning way. To the contrary I know he respects and cares for me as he shows it and as the saying goes action speaks louder than words.He does it in a playful or conversational way and it is correcting something that I was usually misinformed on or did not explain properly. I just noticed he doesn't do this with everyone else so I thought there might be something to it. And as far as molding me, he isn't trying to change me. I probably should have not used that word. It's more like he wants to share with me the things I like and expand my horizons. It isn't like he is trying to make me dislike what I already like. As far as his moon sign is concerned, mine is also in Saggitarius and from what I read that is a great match. Correct me if I'm wrong but it is a great moon match and I would get on well with few others. As far as his Venus is concerned also a great match from what I have researched, to my Venus which is in Aquarius. In fact I would get on well with few other Venus signs (Aries being one) that would understand my need for lots of space (as well as my moon sign) and freedom. Our Synastry Charts is splendid. Our Chinese Astrology match is also splendid match. Our Native American Astrological match also great and our Numerology goes well together as well. From my reading on Retrograde Venus, one of the challenges is for them to believe that someone can actually love them. If a Pisces woman can't get that across who the heck ever could? 8-) I am prepared and willing to meet that challenge. In fact I think I may already be succeeding. Today he told me something that I am doing for him is something mom did when he was a boy (I didn't know that). And from my understanding that is a good sign coming from a crab (and no he doesn't think of me as his mother--I am sure of that). In my other posts I talked about how much he has displayed his feelings for me at times, and then does the crab dance. He is also a bit protective of me. Another good sign. He teases me more and more and we have a lot of fun together. He respects my mind, he knows my strength and has been sharing a lot of himself with me warts and all. I have really gotten to know him and value him so much (even his warts). So unless I am missing something or our charts together aren't as good a match as I have researched thus far I'll take my chances if it goes there. And for once I would actually know the man, the good, the bad and the ugly. He has also seen me at my worse and has been a tower of strength and compassion for me when I needed him. IP: Logged |
PiscesGirl
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posted July 29, 2011 07:37 PM
Perhaps I did not do a good job explaining this. He doesn't do this in an annoying and controlling way at all! Also he doesn't consider me weak and submissive and has NEVER treated me in a demeaning way. To the contrary I know he respects and cares for me as he shows it and as the saying goes action speaks louder than words.He does it in a playful or conversational way and it is correcting something that I was usually misinformed on or did not explain properly. I just noticed he doesn't do this with everyone else so I thought there might be something to it. And as far as molding me, he isn't trying to change me. I probably should have not used that word. It's more like he wants to share with me the things I like and expand my horizons. It isn't like he is trying to make me dislike what I already like. As far as his moon sign is concerned, mine is also in Saggitarius and from what I read that is a great match. Correct me if I'm wrong but it is a great moon match and I would get on well with few others. As far as his Venus is concerned also a great match from what I have researched, to my Venus which is in Aquarius. In fact I would get on well with few other Venus signs (Aries being one) that would understand my need for lots of space (as well as my moon sign) and freedom. Our Synastry Charts is splendid. Our Chinese Astrology match is also splendid match. Our Native American Astrological match also great and our Numerology goes well together as well. From my reading on Retrograde Venus, one of the challenges is for them to believe that someone can actually love them. If a Pisces woman can't get that across who the heck ever could? 8-) I am prepared and willing to meet that challenge. In fact I think I may already be succeeding. Today he told me something that I am doing for him is something mom did when he was a boy (I didn't know that). And from my understanding that is a good sign coming from a crab (and no he doesn't think of me as his mother--I am sure of that). In my other posts I talked about how much he has displayed his feelings for me at times, and then does the crab dance. He is also a bit protective of me. Another good sign. He teases me more and more and we have a lot of fun together. He respects my mind, he knows my strength and has been sharing a lot of himself with me warts and all. I have really gotten to know him and value him so much (even his warts). So unless I am missing something or our charts together aren't as good a match as I have researched thus far I'll take my chances if it goes there. And for once I would actually know the man, the good, the bad and the ugly. He has also seen me at my worse and has been a tower of strength and compassion for me when I needed him. IP: Logged |
PiscesGirl
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posted July 29, 2011 07:43 PM
Sorry for the double post, not sure how that happened. Also it should have read that he shares with me the things he likes and doesn't try to make me dislike what I already like (actually he spends time to get to know me and what I like as well).IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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posted July 29, 2011 07:49 PM
Why don't you post the synastry chart so we can see? There are instructions at the top of the main page (in that mailbox). And if you meant that you two have been exchanging interests and information (as opposed to molding, which is very different) then I would say that is a very good sign. I have the same Sun/Venus combo as him and I don't do that very often unless I really like the person. I'm usually very guarded of my tastes with potential interests because they're eclectic and some people don't understand how I can like things like reggaeton and Classic rock in the same breath. Key thing here is that the gemini venus loves to exchange information with the people it is interested in, and the Cancer Sun doesn't share its 'space' unless it trusts you enough.
As for correcting, again that sounds more like Cap Moon than Sag. Or atleast figure out his Ascendant.
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Airi
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posted July 29, 2011 08:10 PM
O_ono it's not normal for a cancer man to try to mold you into anything. once you are a part of cancer's inner circle they accept you as they are, warts and all. as far as cancers not being upfront about other cancers, that's a load a horse manure. this is from a cancer sug with sag rising and merc in leo. honestly i dont know where tuxedomask is coming from, the whole explanation was confusing and convoluted. a person who would want their partner to "make them look good" or someone they can be proud to show off would traditionally have placements in Leo or Libra. Virgos would be the sign that nit picks and looks for perfection, even in mates, while Capricorn, ruled by Saturn would be the sign that would come off as "controlling". Anyone that REALLY knows a cancer knows that it's their nature to support their loved ones and not criticize or reshape them into something they are not. The part about him correct you all the time is more than likely his Asc being expressed - maybe he doesn't even realize he is coming off as patronizing, or it could be that you are being sensitive/taking things the wrong way. I'm not really sure what you are trying to get at with the molding - do you think he is trying to manipulate you? Usually when people are in the dating phase they will share what they like, their particular taste of something with their partners. For some people all it takes is a little friendship - they don't even need to be dating. I hardly think that is someone trying to force their own preferences on you. BTW my mom is a Pisces married to my dad for almost 30 years now, and she does find ways to blow the smallest things WAY out of proportion. May be take a step back from the situation and think if this was a different guy, and a different girl, what advice would you give to her in the same situation? If you still feel the same way, then maybe this isn't the guy for you because he is coming off as too over controlling. Even if he doesn't mean to be this is how he is coming off to you. IP: Logged |
blugrey
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posted July 29, 2011 08:23 PM
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Benedict Moon*
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posted July 29, 2011 09:41 PM
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as far as cancers not being upfront about other cancers, that's a load a horse manure. this is from a cancer sug with sag rising and merc in leo
You rock.  I don't even know you but, my thoughts exactly.
Anyways, I think the OP's wording was incorrect, as she states in a later post. She meant "exchanging" as opposed to "molding". Thinking about it now, I agree that its not typical of water to do that sort of thing--->even with Cardinal attached to it. Cancer might give a hand up or try to help someone WHO ASKS (that's the cardinal agenda part), but we aren't inclined to stepford people @sses...that's alot more superficial and cold. IP: Logged |
Purrr
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posted July 29, 2011 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by AstrologicalMan:
He probably just does this to you because he thinks that you are weak and submissive.
Seriously? Do you even study astrology? I haven't seen one remark of yours on LL that has to do with astrology or doesn't show a desperate attempt to call attention towards yourself exclusively. Please say things that hold merit and are worth reading. IP: Logged |
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