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blugrey
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posted July 30, 2011 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 30, 2011 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is yours Bluegrey?

I saw one like this recently, I was a bit lost.

Finger of Fate (other name being Finger of God). An interesting chart

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posted July 30, 2011 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's difficult but I wouldn't make it any other way.

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posted July 30, 2011 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 30, 2011 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Onya love!

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posted July 30, 2011 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like it all, other than Mars! (closely square my Sun - ouch!)
Although the trine to Pluto is a nice one to have.
I have the sextile

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posted July 30, 2011 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you attract people who likewise have Mars/Pluto aspects?

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posted July 30, 2011 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Such close orb too

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posted July 30, 2011 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 30, 2011 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you explain how it helps you, and how it works?

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posted July 30, 2011 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and your Uranus, Mercury and Chiron - your Chiron is exactly opposite your Uranus. Same as me but mine is wider orbs.

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posted July 30, 2011 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, love...

i'd say to look at that nice big finger of god pointing at your venus and jupiter!

it's definitely trying to say something to ya

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posted July 30, 2011 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
well, love...

i'd say to look at that nice big finger of god pointing at your venus and jupiter!

it's definitely trying to say something to ya


You mean the 4 of them? lol

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posted July 30, 2011 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by blugrey:
Mars-Pluto gives me resiliency. It makes things a little black and white but it also helps me get rid of things that I don't need and helps me move forward. I can survive change more often than most, I believe. While I can get swept up, I can scramble my way back from almost anything. I usually can see through people's intentions as well, for the most part I know who I can trust and who not to.

Very Cool

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posted July 30, 2011 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Oh, and your Uranus, Mercury and Chiron - your Chiron is exactly opposite your Uranus. Same as me but mine is wider orbs.

Yes. I am not really familiar with it though. I haven't seen much about it in readings.

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posted July 30, 2011 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not all that up with Chiron (Ami is), but I think Uranus opposite - especially so closely orbbed - is significant. Hmm, chiron in 3rd house, AND closely sextile Mercury too..

Oh! Grey! God's giving you another finger there

*The lines opposite Uranus aren't showing

You have 2 fingers of fate/god. Wow.

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posted July 30, 2011 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 30, 2011 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Sun/NN Square was the first thing that popped out to me.

Wow, you really didn't want to take an easy ride this time around did you? I love that Neptune mediating between your Uranus and Saturn though. What a way to poor fabric softener over all those dynamic rough edges. I also love that Pluto trine jumping in saying, "No ***** ! Neptune is not going to back down, now go back to your rooms".

I have 4 Yods in my chart (2 of which share their own sextile and 2 others which share their own sextile) When those Yods light up, it's such an amazing energy. I wouldn't trade my freaky Yods for anything.

The Moon/8th House cusp as your release point is great if you don't struggle with needing tangible or rational resolutions to conflict. It has sort of a "One who observes from the shore of one's emotions, reflects without ripples and never drowns" feeling.

Super cool!

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posted July 30, 2011 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, yes, this is true but they can all work together, pull together to achive same focus.

This other one is pulling you in a completely different direction, with completely different energy - and again with powerful, archetypal energy too being Uranus.

Strong contradiction in your chart perhaps. And one involving sudden tearing, painful, separation perhaps?

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In the way I view your chart you are pretty lucky, because you have what I refer to as an "I Win Button". This is an ability that takes fatal turmoil and flattens it into triviality.

Of course in your chart, the "I Win Button" was placed at the end of an obstacle course hehe. It's actually your Sun/NN square.

Pisces and Gemini are both about definition and both know on a very fundamental level, that our world is defined by the conditions in which it is being observed. Pisces's down-stream fish believes his illusions are real, he builds an entire reality around his own suspicions and lives a comfortable life avoiding the deep understanding that he will one day have to face the current. Pisces's up-stream fish barrels into the current. In the beginning, she is filled with doubt, but her instinct to face the current is unmistakable. She becomes tired and realizes if she doesn't turn back, her path will end in death. Fear washes over her and her first reaction is to flee, but underneath the fear beats that instinctual pulse chanting for her to continue fighting. She laughs out in an understanding and slightly insane tone, "This is what I am here to do!" She taps into the resources she was saving for survival and suddenly the journey is no longer a struggle, it's a dance, weaving and tobogganing over and under ribbons of current; dodging and sliding. Where she was once afraid and alone, she now sees she is surrounded by so many others pushing forward, some with fear in their eyes, some with the same fire she discovered. When she reaches the top she uses her last sliver of energy to lay her eggs and drifts off euphoric in the shallow water. As the gentle current carries her to the shore a wave of familiarity washes over her, she realizes she has returned to the place she started, she has returned home. At the end of her life, she leaves her physical form having understood, "all struggles and fears arose from not remembering where she came from". Had she remembered from the beginning where she was heading, she would have never been afraid, she would have never struggled.

Gemini's shadow twin stands behind the light twin. She talks about what she sees in whispers and hears other people whispering. She considers her self ugly, shameful, unacceptable. She is the reason the world is flawed and therefor information must be hidden. She would be nothing without her light-twin protector and she tells him he would be nothing without her to take his blame. The light twin sees all as information, living data. He speaks aloud, considers his self beautiful, socially honest, and part of a family. He is the reason everything makes sense and therefore information must be uncovered. At first he believes his shadow-sister is part of his family. He speaks and she argues, others speak and she translates what she knows them to have meant. After a time, the light-twin recognizes his sister's whisper sounds like his own voice. When he turns around to face her, she appears instantly behind him. Quickly she changes the subject, but he ignores her and turns around again to find nothing. The shadow twin struggles to redirect her brother's investigation and regardless of his effort, she is never discovered. Frustrated with this game of hide and seek, he sits on the ground and begins to cry. When he opens his eyes, he sees her below him with tears in her eyes. He reaches out to touch her face and the puddle of tears ripples under his finger. In this moment he learns his sister was never separate, he was only holding her separate from him.

In both cases, Pisces and Gemini can learn to "step out" of negative experiences by changing their perspectives. The struggle is letting go of the Taurus/Aquarius force in those cusps, which is fighting over safety vs freedom. Pisces knows there is never a guarantee of freedom or safety, but there is always a degree of both in every moment. Gemini knows that all the big, evil, shadowy, looming, conflicts we are experiencing are completely based on our view of the situation. Gemini can say, "So what if my parents left me with a crappy childhood, I can either separate my self from that pain and carry it around with me wherever I go, or I can accept the pain as part of my self, embrace it, and use it as data toward a greater knowledge.

Long description, but have you experienced this kind of thing with your square, or is it a pretty tough struggle between these energies?

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posted July 30, 2011 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bluegrey,

I'm sorry you've had so much trouble and pain

Thank you for sharing a bit of your story, it's so nice to hear the human tale behind the chart

Quote from Bluegrey
"I guess you could say that all of the bad makes the good so much better and sharper"
I can relate to this statement very much. I know that sometimes when things are hard, all we have are statements like this to fall back on too!

You have most interesting chart. Thanks again for sharing

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