posted July 31, 2011 12:06 AM            

AstroMan says:

I mean

Its a statement of fact

like

if you said

I never had sex with an American

Vapor Lash says:

but things have connotations...

its not all exactly what is being said

there are also connotations to what is being said

and in this case

putting balck girl.. jungle fever.. monkey... in the same paragraph

and ending with

"this is guaranteed sex from a new race"

sends the wrong message

AstroMan says:

holy **** man

have you seen my facebook friends list?

Vapor Lash says:

why?

u have lots of friends

why are u asking me?

i am not saying u are racist

i am saying ur words are nasty and instigating

and its partially intentional

and i know you know that

AstroMan says:

.....

Vapor Lash says:

well you DO

u know that in this particular setting on LL>.. making a thread like this

will get a LOT fo people reeled up

so obviously you want that

AstroMan says:

how is it nasty?

Vapor Lash says:

because if i was black

i would feel completely objectified

by your words
--
ok moonfish said it best

"Well at the end of the day it's good that you want to open your horizons. But uh.. going around saying "I wanna have sex with a Black Girl!" I think to myself, so? She's a girl...with darker skin :/ that's it. If your looking for advice on how to have sex with a different race..There is none! because every indivdual has there own way of going about it."

i agree to that

AstroMan says:

well at least you see that

Vapor Lash says:

i am upset because

u cant be a bit kinder or nicer

i dont really understand why u feel the need to poke ppl

AstroMan says:

I dont really understand why everyone has to be so serious over an internet forum

Vapor Lash says:

well they are.. there are mostly women – first of all.. a lot of male dominated sports or politics forums are ‘rougher’..

but LL has become serious over time

because they/we know each other

the question is AstroMan.. when you're in rome - why do u insist upon NOT doing as the romans?

AstroMan says:

I mean Vapor.....

I would never do that in public.

This is the ******* internet for christ sakes

Vapor Lash says:

but they're still people who have lives

and feelings

and thoughts

AstroMan says:

its words on a screen

Vapor Lash says:

no its not

its words coming from one human YOU

being communicated to other humans THEM

AstroMan says:

but

anyone who knows me

anyone who knows my heart

Vapor Lash says:

i mean we're chatting and its also words on a screen...

AstroMan says:

knows that I m not racist

Vapor Lash says:

yes and

so what?

i know u

i know u're not racist

but they don’t.

why would u intentionally form a negative public imagine anywhere u go?

it doesn’t matter that its online

AstroMan says:

So

Vapor Lash says:

im curious as to

what makes u

want to do this
AstroMan says:

they are judging me falsely

Vapor Lash says:

no

they're judging u based on your words

which are instigating

which anyone in the world

would judge in a negative light

AstroMan says:

not anyone in the world..

no

Vapor Lash says:

yes welll the majority imo

AstroMan says:

there are people who see the bigger picture

Vapor Lash says:

and u just dont give a **** about anyone who does not?

right?

u think that’s your prerogative?

can i tell u what it is

AstroMan says:

can you tell me what is?

Vapor Lash says:

its the fact that

u get on a high horse about being evolved and so on

and very critical of others

u act 'nose up' about many other people.. if they do not understand you it is never your fault... it is always their fault for not being evolved enough...

AstroMan says:

lol you think I believe that I am so much better than anyone else?

I mean

do you think I really believe some of the things that I write?

Vapor Lash says:
well yes.. I believe *some*

i dont like this attitude..

because i think u should be able to accept other ppl as they are...

AstroMan says:

and you think that I don't?

Vapor Lash says:

dont what?

oh accept ppl?

umm

AstroMan says:

Do you think that the things that I write is coming from my ego?

Vapor Lash says:

its coming from something else.. DELETED PART

AstroMan says:

There are people who appreciate my point of view

Vapor Lash says:

i do also ..

but actually

its not so much what ur point of view is

its the way u express it

which can be nasty at times

or shocking

it kills the message

AstroMan says:

.........

this is just one medium

you know

what is really ****** up
Vapor Lash says:

what
AstroMan says:

you have never really expierenced my other mediums

you haven't talked to me on the phone

you haven't met me in person

these are all very different expierences.

you only know of "who I am" from an internet forum or msn. Trust me. I am not the nasty person that you think that I am

I am not a nasty person at all

I am very loving
Vapor Lash says:

AstroMan

i did not say u are a nasty person

and of course ive experienced other sides of you in THIS medium

i mean u can be a warm and caring person towrads *me*

but actually on LL

most of the time you're an ass

and as u told me yourself

its not just LL

u've been banned from other forums

AstroMan says:

...

Vapor Lash says:

do u think its always their fault... and never yours?

AstroMan says:

I dont know. I am tired of trying to defend myself

you are all going to find a way to criticise me

Vapor Lash says:

ok im tired to

ok... i'll quote something bm said

just a sec
AstroMan says:

ok
Vapor Lash says:

ok this here..

"its not the fact that he MENTIONED race, but the content. If he had mentioned he met a scorpio and had said, "Oh btw, this is my first interracial experience too and I'm not sure how to go about" then I wouldn't have an issue. But when you mention how WILD AND DIFFERENT this person is because they happen to be black, that screams "I HAVE A RACE FETISH", not "Hey, I'm open to new experiences". "

this is the problem imo

with the way you expressed it

thats how i would take it
AstroMan says:

okay

so that proves my point

If I said

the exact same thing

but in a different more camouflaged manner no one would care

Vapor Lash says:

Exactly! -- so please DO SO in the future.

im glad u learnt something!

AstroMan says:

so how is it, that I am wrong for what I said just because I was doing it more directly?

Vapor Lash says:

no... there is a time to be direct

and a time not to

it is called having TACT

and being able to behave and socialize with other people

because if you cant do that... then everyone neglects the message (or your question)

and they start arguing about the way you expressed yourself

posted July 31, 2011 12:18 AM            

quote:

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so that proves my point

If I said

the exact same thing

but in a different more camouflaged manner no one would care

---

....AND STILL, he doesn't get it. Whatever, his life, not my problem.