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rigormortisgirl
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posted July 31, 2011 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rigormortisgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've asked this question before and I am really curious again. Someone told me that the Venus-Mars aspect I have will make me have children early and also a Uranus and I believe Venus aspect I have. I am 16 and I have already met the man I am going to marry.<3 and it was right that he is from "overseas" like my Venus being in 9th House says.I have had dreams of my 3 babies :3<3 a girl and 2 boys xD. My baby girl and my first born son are twins. Just WHEN will I have them, does it says in my chart?

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posted July 31, 2011 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good gravy.

5th house is children. Google solar arcs as well, that will teach you aout timing.

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RegardesPlatero
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posted September 23, 2011 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, astrological charts only show tendencies and traits. What you DO with them is up to you. Even if you have a child-oriented chart, you could always choose not to have children or to have them earlier/later. Even with astrology, we still have free will.

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posted September 23, 2011 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I was pregnant my house 4 and 5 triggs by nept, saturn, uran. pluto both times. You are so young. Why start so early? I was also young when I got my son and I felt me competely different when I got my daughter 5 years later. I felt me more strong and safe when I was over 20.

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posted September 23, 2011 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your first born will be a daughter and I don't think she will be a twin

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posted September 23, 2011 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don't have a Venus-Mars aspect... Venus rules your 5th house of children and it's in a square with Neptune and Uranus.

I'd say kidz will come when you will have pozitive transits, progressions or Solar Arc aspects to your Venus in Libra.

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posted September 23, 2011 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Well, astrological charts only show tendencies and traits. What you DO with them is up to you. Even if you have a child-oriented chart, you could always choose not to have children or to have them earlier/later. Even with astrology, we still have free will.

True.

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posted September 23, 2011 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rigormortisgirl:
Just WHEN will I have them, does it says in my chart?

Look at the natal alongside progressions, transits and solar arcs. It's not just one factor, there will be a few that will align that will point to a birth. But then again unless you know otherwise there's always the possibility that you're infertile or will contract a disease or have an attack or accident that will render you infertile, or your desired partner is infertile. I haven't studied infertility so can't say much about that re: charts.
Btw I don't see a Venus/Mars aspect in your chart, but I did see Venus ruling h5 which is sq to Uranus so that's where your astrologer got that idea.

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posted September 23, 2011 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are 16 years old you shouldn't be thinking about marrying or having kids. Like you I use to be obsessed with having kids and getting married and now that I am 28 years old I find that my personality has changed soo much since I was a teenager and the way I think is completely different. You need to explore and have fun now. Your personality will keep on developing for another 15 years. Making huge commitments at this time will lead to regret later. Pls think about this I beg you.

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posted September 23, 2011 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Getting pregnant is best when Mercury is transiting the sign of Capricorn, in your natal chart. House 5 is the house of children and pregnancy.

I won't tell you how I arrived at the Mercury in Capricorn, as it can be difficult to understand for some to understand.

It can be good to have them early, in life, and in case of your natal chart. The longer you go on, the harder it will be, according to your astrology.

I wish you lots of luck in doing so!

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posted September 23, 2011 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hated having older parents. My mom has been dead for 17 yrs and will never meet her granddaughter, died of natural causes at 49, and my dad is ill and is not long for this world. I looked at his chart and can tell he'll be dead in about 6 yrs, my chart at that time confirms it and so does his wife's. My daughter is only 5 and is v.attached to her grandpa. They even have moon conj moon, moon conj venus and conj asc rulers. Breaks my heart. But on the other hand kids have to know that death is real and not a made-up fantasy, that it's a part of life.

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posted September 24, 2011 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
I hated having older parents. My mom has been dead for 17 yrs and will never meet her granddaughter, died of natural causes at 49, and my dad is ill and is not long for this world. I looked at his chart and can tell he'll be dead in about 6 yrs, my chart at that time confirms it and so does his wife's. My daughter is only 5 and is v.attached to her grandpa. They even have moon conj moon, moon conj venus and conj asc rulers. Breaks my heart. But on the other hand kids have to know that death is real and not a made-up fantasy, that it's a part of life.

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RegardesPlatero
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posted September 24, 2011 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
You are 16 years old you shouldn't be thinking about marrying or having kids. Like you I use to be obsessed with having kids and getting married and now that I am 28 years old I find that my personality has changed soo much since I was a teenager and the way I think is completely different. You need to explore and have fun now. Your personality will keep on developing for another 15 years. Making huge commitments at this time will lead to regret later. Pls think about this I beg you.

I completely agree and I think that this is very sound advice. I don't mean to tell you how to run your life, or to judge, but a baby will change everything and will really make life a lot harder for you. Plus, and it genuinely pains me to say this, but a lot of teen fathers do NOT stay with their child's mother. The ones that do are the exceptions, not the rule. I'm not saying that it won't work out or that it's impossible, just that realistically it is very uncommon and not a safe bet.

It's super-important to have a good support system. Look at all of the stories about mothers who harm their kids. One common thread is that a lot of them are stressed out, overwhelmed, experience mental health problems (sometimes post-partum depression or psychosis), or have a special-needs child that they are not really equipped to handle properly. That's another thing: what if your child is autistic? Or has other needs that are really expensive or difficult to deal with emotionally? What if the child will need professional care or medication?

Having a kid and not finishing school will make your whole life difficult. It's hard for people today to get jobs with a college degree; if you don't even finish high school or get your GED, it will make finding a job extremely difficult--and you will have to have a job in addition to raising a kid, if you want to make ends meet. You will have to get a sitter all of the time and won't be able to just go and *do* what you want to do. If you've ever had a career dream, you won't be able to reach that dream if you have kids now--at least not for many years. You have your whole life ahead of you to have kids, if you want them. I'm not saying that you should never have kids if you do want them, but it doesn't have to happen *now*. You're young: enjoy life! Enjoy being young! You won't get this chance ever, ever again.

Lastly, just want to say again that I'm not trying to discourage you from ever having kids. I just agree with Amelia28 that 16 is very, very young and that giving yourself another ten years or so might make a huge difference. The things that you learn in this time might even make you a better mother, which would be good for both you and any kids that you might have.

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posted September 24, 2011 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand your fascination with this topic and where you may be coming from. You want love and to give it as well. I was the same at 16- wondered when I would meet Mr Right (who I thought I'd met every other week) and what it would be like to have my own family. I'm almost 26 and still wonder about these things, but am glad that none of it happened when I was a teenager. If it did, my dreams would still jsut be dreams rather goals and plans I'm working on. I know girls from high school who thought that they had everything when they got pregnant too early. None of these girls are with the fathers of their kids now, some have children with more than one guy, and a good deal of them are not financially independent from either the government or their parents.

My advice, even though you're not asking, is go to college so that you'll have a career and education before you start a family. Also, Venus in the 9H doesn't mean that you'll end up with a foreigner. One of the many things it could mean is that you're attracted to foreigners, older men, or highly educated men (which is why you should go to college), or just like being in the company of open minds. Venus is also about how you love. Placed in the 9H could mean that you'll do well with higher learning or you may enjoy poetry or have a talent for it and other romantic writing (it is the house of publishing). With the square between Venus and Uranus, you may get sick of this love interest and others. Try not to settle down until you've gotten every bit of rebelliousness out of your system.

According to Carol Rushman and many other astrologers, the traditional indicator of marriage is the Sun (for women). Look at its placement and aspects. Don't forget to look at the 7H ruler, its placement and aspects. I think Ami Anne posted a topic on which house the 7H ruler occupies somewhere on this board.

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