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posted August 03, 2011 08:04 AM            

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Does this placement make you feel you have no "voice",no power to assert your needs, wants,identity?
Does it make you feel you must squish you voice which is your basic self expression?

Thanks so much!

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posted August 03, 2011 10:44 AM            

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What you write could be said about me, but my Chiron is 2H Pisces, conj SN and Pallas, opposite NN conjuct Pluto, both 8H Scorpio.

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posted August 03, 2011 10:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Earthdance:
What you write could be said about me, but my Chiron is 2H Pisces, conj SN and Pallas, opposite NN conjuct Pluto, both 8H Scorpio.

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Hi Earthdance
Well with equal house systems we can't be sure which house if I have that right.

Thanks for answering

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posted August 03, 2011 12:00 PM            

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posted August 03, 2011 12:05 PM            

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Thank you Blugray
Yes this may be the nature of this Chiron placement.

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posted August 03, 2011 02:53 PM            

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wow, that's interesting, Ami. my partner has this placement.

to make it worse, it's opposing his Virgo Stellium in the 8th house, including the exact opposition to Pluto.

interestingly, his mother is also a BPD patient. he has never ever told his childhood traumas until he told me. he represses his feelings. it was shocking to me because i'm a Sagittarius blabber mouth. but i learnt from him to use this tactfully, to not just rush out and say everything. he also constantly belittles his talents and also about himself, he spent decades believing he's an ugly duckling, where looking back he's this tall skinny punk boy all the girls fancied.

if that's part of what Chiron in the 3rd is doing, that's a pretty tragic placement!

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posted August 03, 2011 03:01 PM            

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I have this placement, and I used to be that way, many, many years ago...

Now I have to remind myself to "keep thy mouth shut."

Matter of fact, have that message pasted to the back of my name badge at work!

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posted August 03, 2011 03:10 PM            

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posted August 03, 2011 03:13 PM            

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Well Lechien
All Chiron placements are tragic I think.
Where is yours? Does this fit for you?

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posted August 03, 2011 03:15 PM            

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You know as I do charts I am getting a sense about Chiron.
It is such a deep pain and the person acts like it was not such a big deal.The person builds an armor over it so it won't hurt so badly.
It is a complex planet with many layers.I think it rules Virgo.My book on Chiron said this and it makes sense to me.

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posted August 03, 2011 03:37 PM            

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blugrey

It is aspected by opposition to natal Pluto in Virgo 8 deg and a Pisces Chiron of 7 deg.

I have Saturn also in the 3rd 7 deg of Aqua, and my Pisces sun way off at 20 deg.

The next closest would be Aries 0 deg, but another long shot.

O and Ic/Mc 13 deg Pisces and Virgo respectively.

I probably should add, which may make me different, that I have a loaded 3rd house. CLose stellium of Mars, Merc and Jupiter in Aqua, closely opposed to Uranus in Leo.
hmmmmmm

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posted August 03, 2011 05:25 PM            

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hippichick, you must be the same generation as my guy. i heard this Pluto/Chiron opposition is a tough one.

Ami, mine's in the 5th house. i have NO CLUE what that might mean, or how tragic that is. maybe i'm repressing it.

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posted August 03, 2011 06:43 PM            

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lechien, please elaborate 1962 generation for me~

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posted August 03, 2011 06:46 PM            

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hippichick, you must be the same generation as my guy. i heard this Pluto/Chiron opposition is a tough one.

Ami, mine's in the 5th house. i have NO CLUE what that might mean, or how tragic that is. maybe i'm repressing it.

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Do you have a hard time letting loose and having fun?

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posted August 03, 2011 06:50 PM            

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blugrey, Interesting point.

Now, while I dont have a problem opening my mouth, I write much, much better, sometimes I can not get my thoughts across verbally and get all tongue tied and twisted and end up in the ether where nobody knows what the hell I am talking about (perfect illustration of my watery/air mix.)

This is an interesting study, thanks Ami!!!

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posted August 03, 2011 06:56 PM            

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Awww You are welcome Hippi
I am doing so many charts--all joys to me
I am learning all kinds of wonderful things
You guys should come down to Personal Readings and see me

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posted August 06, 2011 03:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hi Earthdance
Well with equal house systems we can't be sure which house if I have that right.

Thanks for answering

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Hmmm, I'll play with it and see.

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posted August 07, 2011 10:34 PM            

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hmm interesting.. well my chiron is conjunct jupiter in the 3rd house. i would say that i deffinately held back a lot of things i wanted to say in school, or i just didnt speak up. i think i was underestimated by a lot of my school teachers becuase i was always too shy to show what i knew. but i was and i am still very scatter brained at times and restless. when i was in elementry a teacher told my mom i had ADD and i was dyslexic becuase i would write my name i would write my letters out of order. like i would skip vowels and stuff i dunno. i dont really think im dyslexic though.

i use to supress my voice a lot more i still do im just picky with who i tell what. i have insecurities mentally, like im always trying to master whatever im learning or talking about and if i dont know a subject ill say just say that and not even try to get into it until i know it in more detail. that could be my virgo moon though. i was really sensitive to critisism when i was younger about my intelligence. but ive always had a funny time expressing my words, there always jumbled up and sometimes i stutter ha, and i use a lot of symbolism and metaphors. well sometimes when i talk i dont finish my sentences either

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posted September 28, 2013 09:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Does this placement make you feel you have no "voice",no power to assert your needs, wants,identity?
Does it make you feel you must squish you voice which is your basic self expression?

Thanks so much!

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i remember reading somewhere that 3rd house Chiron is excellent at holistic thinking or multi level thinking - de Bono writes about this

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posted September 28, 2013 10:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Does this placement make you feel you have no "voice",no power to assert your needs, wants,identity?
Does it make you feel you must squish you voice which is your basic self expression?

Thanks so much!

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Chiron is in my 3rd and I feel like I need to use my roar(Leo asc)in order to be heard.

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