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JohnFKennedy
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posted August 03, 2011 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So.. if any of you guys have been through this transit before, please tell me you reaped some serious fruits after it was over? Because I am so pathetically isolated right now. All of my romantic prospects have dried up, my social life has taken a total lull in activity, I feel like it's difficult to breathe without inhaling even more misery. Thankfully I only have another month left of this awful transit, but I really would feel so much better if I could read some of your experiences.

I like to think of myself as quite the Saturn Girl after dealing with Saturn in my 12th/eventually on my ascendant for two years - also opposing my moon/NN conjunction before it went into my 12th, but APPARENTLY there are more lessons to be learned on my part. Ugh. Any similar stories?

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posted August 03, 2011 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for northernlad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try having natal Saturn opposite Venus...

My love life has always been pathetic. I'm hoping that it gets better as I get older, like they say Saturn aspects do.

I won't experience tSaturn opposite Venus until my Saturn return. Yay!

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posted August 03, 2011 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey johnfkennedy i had this a couple of months ago and its coming back again thanks to saturn moving on ahead. i also think your born either one day before me or on the same day. i know ether has this as well.

the first time this transit came into affect i lost one of my best friends the whole situation was a messed up one. since then my friends have been lacking, i do find myself isolated and alone most of the time which stinks.

as too romantic relationships thats pretty much a dud. no prospects well not that im looking or intrested anyways. this transit at least for me has been a nusiance. i cant wait until the end of next month when its over finally.

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posted August 03, 2011 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I´ve been through it. Tr Saturn in 7th house opposing Venus in Capricorn in 1st house (maybe the fact that my Venus was in Cappy, made it a bit easier).

Shortly after that I was having my Saturn-Return. Venus is on 6 Cappy and Saturn on 17 Cancer.


Exhausting time. Much much work.
First time that I moved out from home, was going through my university-exam, just to start the last part of my education (teacher in training) in an unknown city where I didn`t know anyone.

First time on my own two feet ever, first time having to organise a household, work, learning, paying bills etc. (Saturn is in 8th house).


As I said, much work, BUT even though it was difficult to adjust, I also was impressed how well I handled it after all. I always thought of myself as having low energy levels and not being very efficient when it came to every day matters.

This time showed me that I can be very efficient, if I really need to.
(On top of that progressed ASC was changing into Capricorn during that time).

Interestingly I was even having some sort of social life; it was a bit of necessary, as we were a group of people who had been "exiled" to that village at the end of Germany, partly very far from home. So we ended up being "temporary circle of friends".
Was having a bit of a flirtative friendship with one of the guys. Interestingly a Capricorn with his Sun on 7 Capricorn, conjunct my Venus.

All in all it was an exhausting workintense period, but I`ve learned such a lot about myself, about what I am actually able to do.

Tr Saturn to Venus has never been that much of a problem to me before either; not even the square I have been through recently.
Tr Saturn was conjunct MC and Pluto and squaring my Venus in last autumn.

I had been moving and so had to wade through all my stuff, separating from some unneeded things.
On top of that I was immersed in work, felt like working day and night. But the important thing is I managed. I did all that was demanded of me to do.

At the end of the period my boss actually came to me and told me that he admired me for taking on so much without complaining once and apologized for loading all that work onto my shoulders.
The energy and focus I put into my work helped my reputation quite a bit. Not that it was bad before, but I`ve been "praised" by several people in leading positions for the reliable, well organised work I`ve done.
Now they think of me as organised (which honestly is a misconception, I am NOT).

Tr Saturn to Venus always brings a lot of work into my life, and it is defintely a "no ******** ", "no evasion", "no playtime" time; but it helps me focus onto the important things and block out everything that is not necessary at the moment.


The Saturn transits I can not deal with well are the challening ones to
Sun, Moon, ASC, NN and Neptune.
(Sun, ASC, NN and Neptune are in Sagittarius and Moon is in Aquarius).

EDIT:
I must admit though, that for the most time I find Saturn-transits more exhausting than Pluto-ones.
For some reason Saturn is more difficult for me.
And even if I can see the progress I have made in Saturnian themes, I am glad it is moving away now. Will oppose my Chiron and square my Saturn on 17 degree. But then it will only have harmonious aspects to Moon and Sun, until it reaches 17 Scorpio. That is going to be a bummer though (squares my Moon, and Saturn in challenging aspect to Moon makes me always so depressed).

And after that on its way through Sagittarius it will conjunct my Stellium, so I guess, I am just allowed a short breathing time, before it is going back to school and learn my Saturn-lessons. *sighs*

Can`t I have some more Pluto instead?

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posted August 03, 2011 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had this a year ago with Uranus conjunct my Venus at the same time (while Saturn and Uranus squared my natal Saturn/Uranus conjunction).

It actually wasn't too bad. Kind of fun for me lol. I think it's because I'm used to the energy as I have Saturn/Uranus square Venus natally. I actually started dating my current boyfriend during this transit (although I think I may have lost the "love of my life" or whatever during this... WHATEVER @ HIM TBH).

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posted August 03, 2011 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amowls,

yes, probably it`s easier if the energy is already familiar from the natal (like my Cappy-Venus makes me a bit more in tune with Venus-Saturn than for example a Leo Venus).

Also, I remember when Tr Uranus was conjunct my Venus (and Tr Jupiter opposite my Venus) - at the same time Tr Pluto was squaring my Moon, and still it was such a fun time, exciting, carefree (I think I never felt that free before or afterwards), it was almost as if the air was sparkling, and of course I was heavily crushing on someone as well.

Funnily the feeling now is similiar, though not just as strong (maybe because I am older), and Tr Uranus now is squaring my Venus. (with Tr Pluto conjunct it).

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posted August 03, 2011 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried replying to your original thread last night, but to no avail.


Anyways, I went through the square (to my Venus) almost 3 years ago and had a similar experience to you. Things were FINALLY looking up between me and the co-worker I was crushing on, and even the Tarot seemed to hint at a significant love affair! But then, it all came crashing down in one bad night at work. To make a long story short, we became awkward acquaintances overnight. And this coincided with the time that the transit became EXACT.

I was broody and resentful over it, and no...there were no fruits when Saturn finally left my Venus the hell alone. But maybe that situation was for the best? It took off the rose-colored glasses I was looking at him with (Thank God)...and my Unaspected Venus tends to do that alot at the prospect of genuine affection, no matter how morbid the circumstances. =___=


*EDIT* Ceridiwen, I also feel the same way about Saturn transits vs. Pluto ones. And saturn is suppose to be my chart ruler...LOL. Mainly because I feel like I learn from the Pluto transits, where as Saturn just seems to like being a liferuiner for the sake of it.

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posted August 03, 2011 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amowls**:
I had this a year ago with Uranus conjunct my Venus at the same time (while Saturn and Uranus squared my natal Saturn/Uranus conjunction).

It actually wasn't too bad. Kind of fun for me lol. I think it's because I'm used to the energy as I have Saturn/Uranus square Venus natally. I actually started dating my current boyfriend during this transit (although I think I may have lost the "love of my life" or whatever during this... WHATEVER @ HIM TBH).


Oh dude, is this the Vertex DW guy?! Because I totally feel like my Vertex DW/Soul mate guy and I have pretty much separated at this point (lol @ that, I'm never going to get rid of this broski and I blame the universe for it) - anyway, I also feel like I can navigate Saturn's energies pretty well with it being the co-ruler of my Moon/NN and I have that outer planet Capricorn stellilum, but my Venus in Aries isn't too happy on being stifled for the time being, apparently..

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posted August 03, 2011 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceridwen and Benedict Moon.. yes, I completely feel you both on that. I'd so much rather go through a cathartic Pluto lesson then have to deal with Saturn's reckless and dry 4 hour long class room sessions in which I come out with nothing more then some shattered optimism about a certain situation. When Saturn was transiting my 12th, that was just the nightmare to end all nightmares. Funnily enough, Pluto was simultaneously going back and forth on my IC/opposing my natal Jupiter/Chiron (just through retrograding and what not) for a few years, and I feel like I learned so much more from that and took home far more studier lessons then the needless tornadoes Saturn sent through my psyche.

I guess the one thing I can feel grateful for is the fact I have an empty 11th/12th/1st house so I'm spared some conjunctions for a while on Saturn's part..

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posted August 03, 2011 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eeek, I actually have Saturn in the 12th natally. Sorry you had to go through that! =__=

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posted August 03, 2011 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning Strike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I underwent this earlier this year, and since my Venus is at 16 Aries, I've still got more coming at me. Soon, I'll be going through Saturn square Moon and then, Saturn square Neptune.
To put it simply, it was a period of intense focus. I saw myself from a third-person perspective, and what needed to be done before was put into action and gotten over with. I dealt with eye-opening, figuratively, and instead of painting a picture I zoomed in on the scene. I looked into the future (long-term goals) and saw what could be if I put myself into high gear. I separated things into "wastes time" and "useful", to put it that way.
The way I see Saturn, is that He's no procrastinator. Things that need to be done, get done, and then you call it a done deal.

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posted August 03, 2011 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JFK: yes the DW vertex boy. But he's still around.. every time he sees me he goes out of his way to get my attention/talk to me even though he deleted me from all of his online things.

Anyway, Saturn will make you realize what to prioritize. Maybe you'll discover what you really want in a dude and you'll find him?

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posted August 03, 2011 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn opposition Venus (Medium-duration, 1-4 weeks)
This might be a time of relationship tests, struggles, or trials. You may not be attracting things and people that you want in your life as easily as you were before this transit, and this can be eye-opening. It's a signal to work on improving your manner as well as the things that you offer to others in partnership. There may be many doubts raised now and you could be withdrawing or holding back a little as you attempt to figure out what you need, want, and can give. You are working towards ridding yourself of self-delusions when it comes to close partnerships, socializing, finances, and attractiveness. In the process, you might feel disdain for superficial interactions and resent "going through the motions" on a social and/or emotional level. Your goal is to find deeper connections to others. Relationships built on weak foundations may not survive, but other relationships can be improved and strengthened.

Financial matters might be stressful for the time being, which forces you into a position of conservation and moderation.

You may feel sad or lonely and cut off from others. You are sensitive to slights, and your friends and loved ones may seem to be cold, indifferent or unfaithful to you. You will need self- restraint at this time to avoid one-sided relationships.

You're lucky you only have one planet in Aries, I have 3 -_-

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posted August 04, 2011 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just be happy that you don't have it natally

I know one lady with it that is so typical, over 50, doesn't realize she puts off all of her potential romances with her brutish unsexy ways, always thinks other people want her around but also always picks up on slights from others and imagines they out of proportion to what they are, so insecure, desperate for a man, hasn't had sex in like 15 yrs, some people can go without but others it drives them up the wall and makes em go a bit bonkers, that's her. Scary sight, all she needs to do is slow down but it is just not in the cards.

^ wow, just realized i made her sound really pathetic. She's not all bad, she's raised 2 amazing kind and respectful children, battled breast cancer all on her own going through chemo and no hair and mastectomy the whole shebang and she's back, is going to medical school to start a new career which takes balls when you're her age (also has no air in the chart), and has a beautiful glowing smile (hello leo moon) and is top dog at work.

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posted August 14, 2011 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This transit is still kiiiiiiiicking my ass. Thank God it's going to be done in a two weeks. I haven't felt so hopeless about myself in a long effing time.

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posted August 14, 2011 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dunno, like Northern Lad, I have this in my natal as well, along with Venus opposite Uranus, I can't say my love life is tormenting nor obstacle ridden. Sure it took me longer than most to date, but delay doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing. In fact I feel I'm much more wiser than most of my friends my age because I bypass all the trivial things that constitute dating... My biggest problem is confronting people, I'm a very mental person - yet I have a hard time speaking my mind.... And I have Gemini Venus?

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posted August 18, 2011 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK,I may have square,ends sometime in Sept,but I have to post sth
Venus is Asc Ruler,on MC,I cannot stop thinking,planning about future. I have sensation that now it's THE time,and everything I do I have to have it done now. And I can't! I have Saturn over Asc,oppo Mars.. It is impossible! Walls!
Also,my body is fragile,I don't feel fit,yet I can push for miles; My bones r cracking. With oppo Mars,my muscles were mess-so..flacid. My body doesn't require much,really ascetic. I am so indifferent! Other day,Gabriel Greko were on TV show(usually that provokes sigh of delight) - nothing. No one is attractive,I can't find an ounce of sympathy,I just notice faults in others; I am stern and unapolegetic. The only thing I want is to do yoga somewhere near ocean Because it is good for me,a need,not pleasure.
H12 tSaturn is the worst thing ever.
So,fruits? Sure,there r out there...
The funny thing I that I was so challenged in the beginning of transit; I thought I'll respond well. Now,when I'm nearing end,it's the opposite.

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posted August 18, 2011 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yuck! I had t saturn conj my venus in the 5th house a year or two ago, it sucked really bad. I think the dw of dour saturn being on my fun loving venus and in my pleasure seeking 5th house really made this a dark time. I also felt unattractive and could not meet anyone I liked at all.

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posted August 18, 2011 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now saturn is squaring my cappy moon, so double dose of saturn on my moon right now. BLAAH! I am so self isolated and depressed and have no energy to do anything, plus just moved to a new city and have no friends here :-(

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posted August 18, 2011 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
I tried replying to your original thread last night, but to no avail.


Anyways, I went through the square (to my Venus) almost 3 years ago and had a similar experience to you. Things were FINALLY looking up between me and the co-worker I was crushing on, and even the Tarot seemed to hint at a significant love affair! But then, it all came crashing down in one bad night at work. To make a long story short, we became awkward acquaintances overnight. And this coincided with the time that the transit became EXACT.

I was broody and resentful over it, and no...there were no fruits when Saturn finally left my Venus the hell alone. But maybe that situation was for the best? It took off the rose-colored glasses I was looking at him with (Thank God)...and my Unaspected Venus tends to do that alot at the prospect of genuine affection, no matter how morbid the circumstances. =___=


*EDIT* Ceridiwen, I also feel the same way about Saturn transits vs. Pluto ones. And saturn is suppose to be my chart ruler...LOL. Mainly because I feel like I learn from the Pluto transits, where as Saturn just seems to like being a liferuiner for the sake of it.


i find some of the posts that don't go into what actually happened to be of only relative help.. there are themes associated with each planet and if only 'rose colored' glasses' are mentioned, i don't know that many people who have a pair and automatically, i only think of that with anything that's related to neptune because that's what we've all read..

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posted August 18, 2011 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i experienced the conjunction july 16th, 2005... around that time, i was deeply infatuated with someone and had broken ties with someone i thought i was friends with but then found them to be a certain way with the person i was infatuated with to then turn around and be extremely verbally abusive when they weren't around... so, i thought that if that was the relationship they had with them, what were they to be saying behind my back? so i broke off ties with that 'friend' and it was a group, actually and all the ties with that group had broken away.

then not long after, sure enough, the saying things behind my back started and in turn i started dishing it back to them and it got to the point where my bedroom window was busted with a baseball somewhere around 11 o'clock at night.

all of them were in on it.

i lost a lot of weight then, too.. i got into amazing shape for that time of my life and the solid saturn results stuck.

i resumed life being a totally new person but yes, i was depressed and at the time, i was very alone.

there were few people whom i'd talk to and it'd be on the phone and one of them moved away, yet we manage to seldom keep in touch but not really because her boyfriend would not like her talking to me and she abided by his wish.. another one i found out later to be doing the same talking that hurt me dearly because i really did not see it coming (the person had mercury in my twelfth).

i was not too much allowed to get away with anything, i was running low on energy and yet managed to do a lot but sometimes didn't even want to get out of bed to do anything yet still, i did so.

i was frequently late to everything,
i was literally at home by myself,
no family,
nothing.

it got me into self-restrictive induced behaviour i guess as a means of controlling what was going on around me and it went on for a while til it eventually started taking it's toll on me some two years later.

it wasn't that i felt unattractive, i was actually polishing up on it; was just alone.. a lot.. the friends i had were gone, the casual relationships i had no longer worked for me, but i did manage to produce amazing work in terms of the realms dealing with the arts.

prior to that, i was literally almost excluded from everything and was kind of 'not allowed' anywhere..

felt as if i was being singled out by superiors and branded with some kind of rejective mark.

it hurt, yes.

some of the people i considered comrades were not at all sticking up for me or appeared to be bothered by the fact of what was going on and my exclusion from almost everything.

after that phase, (i was in high school at the time) i realized there was very little for me to be sticking around for and i withdrew myself and went to charter school to graduate on my own (finished a semester and a half in just one week); didn't walk with my class, instead, received my diploma in the mail half way across the country because i moved from the rural place i was living in to the big city.

it was a refreshing change and all of what seemed to had bothered me before and that crumbled apart seemed like was worth it because otherwise, i would've stayed behind for it.

as far as the infatuation, nothing ever happened with that person but there was a bit of a bond and they were moved way across the world because they were physically being sought after; threatened.

we kept in touch over the phone and once they returned, i was a new person but found that the person i had gotten to know while we were on the phone, was completely gone since their 'rehabilitation' and that that was that.

when they left i was extremely hurt.

i would cry and cry and cry and it felt as if something had be taken away from me before i even had a chance to hold it for that long.

i think that was probably my first stupid young 'love' experience.

i look back on it fondly but without it, i would've never been who i am today and i would've never gotten to the place where i am or look the way that i do because venus does indeed rule what we find attractive and value and it is my chart ruler.

the depression might've been due to the fact that it was also in conjunction with my moon.

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posted August 19, 2011 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
i find some of the posts that don't go into what actually happened to be of only relative help.. there are themes associated with each planet and if only 'rose colored' glasses' are mentioned, i don't know that many people who have a pair and automatically, i only think of that with anything that's related to neptune because that's what we've all read..


What? Unfortunately I don't like revealing every little detail of my life over the internet. If that's not to your liking, that's not my problem.

*edit* Scrappydog, pretty much the same things happened to me. I moved to a different state which was going okay at first, but things became sh*ttastic around the transit came around. When it conjuncted my Moon, I really missed my family. When it squared my Venus, I felt isolated from every social contact and friend that I once had. I also gained more weight courtesy of this stupid fad diet I tried and felt even more unattractive. Just as with the guy from above, it was hard for me to find anyone in this place since I am a New Englander and had a very different mentality from everyone around me. I truly was isolated until I went back to working at a hospital again....leaving the crappy restaurant industry behind. I hate to sound elitist (oh well, if I do), but when you're working somewhere that truly serves the public as opposed to a dead end place, the mentality of the workforce is different.

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posted August 19, 2011 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol i'm not saying reveal a whole lot but i'm hinting at perhaps give us a little more because we love and we wanna know so much about u lol <3

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This is an older thread but, just throwin' in my two cents...I'm going thru this now in progressions. My Venus has progressed into Capricorn and is applying towards opposition w/ natal & progressed Saturn in Cancer. It's about 2 degrees away now and - Ugh.

In addition, Saturn in transit is just starting to oppose my natal Mars and will conjunct my Moon and eventually natal Venus when it hits 18 Scorpio so I will have conj and opposition going at same time! Progressed moon is also squaring prog & natal Saturn w/ progressed Pluto just started transiting my 11th house also.

I cannot remember feeling so alone in my life. All my good friends moved away or are busy or we've fallen out. (I went thru quite a wild phase before this serious stuff hit.) It has been so hard to meet good people w/out something going wrong, getting in the way...so depressing! I really do think it is these transits. (I do not have Venus/Saturn contacts natally, only Venus conjunct Moon w/ no bad aspects there so this feels pretty harsh & my money situation has been really tight also (now Saturn is just now transiting my 2nd house where I have moon & Venus natally.)

One interesting this I've noticed in that all the guys I've come across since Venus started opposing my Saturn is that they all have Venus conj, oppositions or squares to my Saturn or vice/versa or and that all of these men have Venus/Saturn aspects in their own natal charts as well.
I really do think whatever your chart has progressed to is the energy you begin to attract. A Vedic astrologer had told me I had been undergoing very long cycles of Saturn of one kind or another and there was a "love block" situation until year 42 or so...I can't remember the basis for this but sure enough that is exactly when progressed Venus begins to separate from natal/prog Saturn, My sun progresses to conjunct natal venus and a couple other things which seems to finally indicate MUCH smoother sailing.

Biz-wise, I have done pretty well. Especially in Real Estate arena. Progressed Venus is opp Saturn but conj my North Node. (That Saturn/Cappy thing I guess) but it is slow & steady w/ a lot of responsibility/hard work.

On the plus side, I do feel many of these meetings have been karmic. I have learned so much and definitely matured & I think I see people much more clearly now. I am much more emotionally objective which I think will help when I finally do get into a LTR relationship again. ;}

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