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Aya_and_baby
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posted August 15, 2011 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure if it is still retrograde, though.

Anyway, I'm overcome by this strong feeling that someone (very likely a few someones) are lamenting in connection with me. Okay, I am aware that sounds big headed, but I mean this in the humblest of ways, I really do feel that certain people are thinking of me, regretting what has been done or said, or not been done or said, and I probably have a good reason for thinking this is going on...

It did come after I felt incredibly guilty over seeing this guy I was talking with in a group on last friday night out, being disappointed that I was giving his friend (or aquaintance? ) more attention (but it was the kind of person who was just demanding it like a kid really). I kind of have the feeling now that he's either hitting himself over the head or blaming me for feeling disappointed.

Now, I didn't and don't expect anything to happen there, that's not my point, but with feeling that incredible amount of guilt for seemingly being the cause of someone's disappointment, came the intense feeling that someone out there was silently lamenting their previous involvement with me. It is very strange because I tend to think that once the relationship has ended, men as a general rule don't care about me either way.

So I'm starting to think it's a Mercury retro thing, but what I'm wondering too is if what I am sensing is real, or does it come from within myself? The disappointment on the man's face whom I mentioned before was quite clear, so I'm not imagining that, but I can't be sure at all about feeling that some guys out there are lamenting their time with me because I have no way to prove it's actually happening. Heck, I don't even know which guys they would be although I could say which men they would most likely be, doesn't mean they are actually doing just that.


Oh yeah, my Gemini Moon is expressing this right now. It doesn't like having feelings or sensations it cannot explain

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posted August 15, 2011 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's a funny coincidence is that a friend of mine has expressed his regret for missing out on an opportunity with a woman years ago and mentions he does feel regret from time to time although not always, and now was just one of those periods.

Both my sensations and his expressions of lament are not connected, as I felt what I felt even before I heard about... Well, him having had the opportunity to date at all

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posted August 15, 2011 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sounds like a retro cycle to me, I just tried reconnecting with someone at the weekend, its only the 2nd time I tried but the 1st was during a retro mercury too.

Ahhhhhhh hankering and lamenting...my favourite pastimes

and the venus retro at the back end of last year was a nightmare.

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posted August 15, 2011 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm that Venus retro didn't bother me much, but I was in a futureless relationship then anyway and desperately trying to get out of it. It hadn't changed much since half a year before that so nothing was Venus's doing.

Yeah, I do have some feeling of being peed of and wronged in the past by partners which are keeping me awake too, but the lament is something I feel emanating from others. And well, the most likely candidate is my son's father because he did love me, and possibly an ex from years ago because he loved me too and it was only his actions which made me leave and he knows this, but I'd expect after all those years he'd found a way to get over it and to be honest I don't expect him to find himself thinking of me in a melancholical mood. There's another who is less but still likely to think of me in a lamenting way because he can be found saying nothing but good about me still, but of course only if the topic is me, I doubt he goes around telling people about me out of nowhere

I do think that if Mercury is still retrograde, it should be trine my Venus now, which could explain a bit towards these sensations I have. It would still be interesting to figure out if my feelings were right or whether I was imagining things.

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posted August 15, 2011 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's still retrograde and right on my sun...I just checked my ephemeris, I got it wrong though, merc wasn't retro the last time I tried but it was a full moon not far from where mercury is now.

It's at 24 degrees leo, doesn't go direct until the 26th.

I don't ever know if it's me or "them" I can never be completely sure which is the worst part about it, I know that sometimes it is me but then at others it comes out of nowhere.

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posted August 15, 2011 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been feeling that kind of lament, but more coming from other people. At this point in time, I really don't have much to lament, but I can tell the people around me do. Everyone's kind of distracted/melancholy. Also, I've been running into/hearing from LOTS of people from my past. More than usual...

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posted August 16, 2011 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@dysfunctional: yeah, I know what you mean. If the feeling does come from me I am able to "locate" its origin, so to speak. When I can't locate that and it just seems to come from the blue, it's just more likely to come from others, because I might arguably not be good at balancing my emotions, none of them have ever come out of the blue. I never wake up feeling sad for no reason, I usually wake up feeling sad because something reminded me of such-and-such event or person etc etc... But sometimes I do wonder if I'm just not seeing that it is coming from myself. You know, denial

Also, the people I mentioned could be candidates, one has his Venus conjunct retro Mercury at the moment, and the cut is rather fresh with him. Another has Venus inconjunct and the least recently encountered one has Venus sextile as far as I remember, so they're all connected too. On the other hand, my Venus is trine and I am kind of lamenting about feeling guilty about disappointing that guy this weekend, so I'm not entirely free from it, although I do know where it's from and I know just how much of the guilt tripping is from my end

@enchantress: so I'm not the only one feeling it at this very moment? Sounds like a transit effect so. Let's blame Mercury

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posted August 16, 2011 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aya, I know what you mean about the denial thing, that's why I always have a good root around in myself to see if it could be just me but then I get signs...you know the random coincidences that seem to tell you that it's not all in your head and that you are being pulled by someone else.

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posted August 16, 2011 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sounds like a transit effect so. Let's blame Mercury

Sounds good! I'm already blaming Mercury for my broken car (which did finally get fixed, hopefully correctly), the broken copier/fax machine at work, and my sick cat. Maybe I can just blame him for everything!

Actually, I'd also like to blame the retrograde Neptune shifting signs. Could we do that too? My Venus is at 0' Virgo, and so I've been REALLY foggy-minded lately. This is not a good state for a Virgo to be in. However, just this last weekend (once Neptune shifted from 0' Pisces back to Aquarius), I found out about a minor deception on the part of a 'friend.' I would like to create a petition for Neptune to stay in Aqua, never to cross my Venus again.

In truth, I think the 'lament' that is coming along with the Mercury retrograde also has to do with the Neptune retrograde, especially since they were opposing each other when Mercury started retrograding and they both changed signs during the course of the retrograde.

I think people are way more nostalgic than usual, and also more restless- wanting to make changes and go forward, and yet being thwarted by circumstances outside of their control. It is making everyone slightly regretful and crazy. That's what the tone seems like to me anyway.

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posted August 16, 2011 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll blame Mercury for not being able to give that guy the attention I wanted, too, but then again I always put my foot in my mouth. I don't need a retrograde Mercury to be misunderstood or to do the wrong thing communication wise

Hmm, I wasn't aware Neptune was retrograde too, that makes things very interesting. Especially if it's around 29 deg Aqua and 0 deg Pisces, then it would be exactly sextile my natal Neptune, which happens to be conjunct my Venus too, and I am feeling increasingly bad about what (didn't) happen last friday. I'm getting a spot of lament myself

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