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Topic: House Systems
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SmilingHeart
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posted August 23, 2011 07:49 PM
  
I'm sure this topic was already discussed but I will just start a new thread (hope you don't mind).
As a astrology Newbie I'm a little confused when it comes to House Sytsems.I've used Placidus so far but when I recently looked at the House Rulers I noticed that some things really don't fit. Gemini and Sagittarius are intercepted in this house system. But both of these areas are fully present in my life. I just looked around and changed the systems and they all get very different house cusps.
The way I see it I would just use the house system that I feel suits me the best.
But now I've gotten some requests from friends to interpret their charts and I'm lost. Which house system should I use? Would it be wrong to look at all and make different interpretations? (Even though that would be alot of work)
How do you do it and what system do you think is the most accurate?
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Lonake
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posted August 23, 2011 07:55 PM
If you have planets in Gemini or Sagittarius and they're intercepted they're said to be difficult to access.Equal, whole sign, no interceptions. IP: Logged |
SmilingHeart
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posted August 23, 2011 07:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
If you have planets in Gemini or Sagittarius and they're intercepted they're said to be difficult to access.Equal, whole sign, no interceptions.
That's the problem right there....I have Mars in Gemini and I don't feel like I have any difficulty accessing it. That's only with placidus though. In Campanus the intercepted signs are Leo and Aquarius...that rings alot more true to me.
So which is the right house to use in this case?
And how do I know what house system to use when I look at charts of other people. Is there a house sytsem that is considered the non plus ultra? IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 23, 2011 08:04 PM
Look at your chart, find a system that fits for it in your estimation, then look at charts of people you know closely with accurate tob and see if it fits for them too. There's your answer. What you're looking for is a chart that you are able to interpret. If you can't interpret Placidus then it's best to stick to something that works, rather than feeling you're giving inaccurate information. And then some don't pay any attn to interceptions and feel that they don't hold negative meanings, that they're actually positive, and then some think they're neutral. So it's all in how you view things.
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sand
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posted August 23, 2011 08:32 PM
i think the interception readings are kinda important. so i say try/ use all three. easy to change them up anyway.IP: Logged |
SmilingHeart
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posted August 23, 2011 08:52 PM
Hm, okay I will do that.
BUT - I just had a quick look at my chart with the Campanus house system and all I can say is WOW! How accurate. I think I'm gonna stay with this system. Things I always felt were inaccurate with Placidus just became clear.IP: Logged |
sand
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posted August 23, 2011 10:38 PM
campanus? okay never looked at my chart using that system. i'll take a peek. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 24, 2011 05:51 AM
Interesting. I never felt that people do not access their intercepted planets.
In my case Jupiter is intercepted in Pisces in 3rd house (Placidus) and it definitely factors strongly in my personality.
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Ceridwen
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posted August 24, 2011 08:00 AM
My friend`s chart with different housesystems:Placidus:
Koch:
Campanus - my "favourite":
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Ceridwen
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posted August 24, 2011 08:30 AM
Two more charts to feast your eyes on:Luckily my brother was not born in NOrway / Hammerfest, or I would have had to interprete THIS chart: See how messed up the order of the houses is? IC on top of the chart?
Hopefully noone was born on the afternoon of my birthday. Anyone want to try interprete the houserulers? 
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sand
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posted August 24, 2011 08:45 AM
i think i like whole signs more really. not much diff anyway. except my eyes hurt looking at cuspy houses in placidus and campanus LOL. WHOLE  CAMPANUS  IP: Logged |
SmilingHeart
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posted August 24, 2011 10:58 PM
uh, why are some of the chart so ****** up? I thought that wasn't supposed to happen with Campanus since the sytsem is space and not time related?IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 25, 2011 06:01 AM
Especially Campanus delivers these very distorted charts in the North.Interestingly I once made a chartinterpretation for that friend of mine (which I didn`t really know back then), using placidus and equal system.
Funnily she related much more to Placidus; actually she was quite shocked about what I, a total stranger, was telling her about her childhood and family life. There is the recently revised topocentric system, and it is said, it doesn`t have these problems in the polar regions. I need to get my hands on this one. But for the latitudes up to 66 the housecusps are approximately the ones Placidus has as well. *shrugs* Astro-logically I prefer equal system, but for some reason I can work best with Placidus.
I really dislike basing my choice on the argument "it works best", cause it is full of subjectivism and sometimes sais more about the astrological skills of the astrologer (or certain things they are missing to see) than the astrological technique itself.
But since i do not really have a tool to objectively prove the validity of one system over the other, I probably have no other choice. IP: Logged |
bellesoul
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posted August 25, 2011 06:32 AM
I haven't delved into the house systems, i normally just use placidus as that is the default settin so assumed it was the average/ best system. On that my neptune is near the end of the fifth in cappy, barely touching the 6th and when i tried the campanus system after reading previous posts, it said neptune was in the 6th in cappy. Anyone got any advice on what to go on..? Oh and after reading the posts also, i was curious about interceptors and googled it and come to a site called aquarious papers who i have used quoting an extract of one of their articles below ... 'Whether this occurs or not depends entirely on what house system we use. It can never happen when we use Equal Houses, since that puts the natural sequence of signs on successive houses beginning with the Ascendant. As an aside, my old friend and Master Astrologer Carl Payne Tobey held the opinion we should also examine charts using Equal Houses starting from the Midheaven degree, since that doesn't change according to latitude. This would certainly produce different results from an Ascendant based system (except near the equator, when the houses are pretty much equal house anyway, regardless of what system we use).' This is not my work above.. just to clarify! IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 25, 2011 07:50 PM
Woah some of those houses are so tiny....now that would hurt my eyes lol.I can't go with whole signs even if I wanted to.
It puts Pluto in my 3rd and that is just not me. The rest of the placements stay the same. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 26, 2011 05:57 AM
Lonake,I wouldn`t go with whole signs either, just because I think the ASC is the point, where our "personal zodiac" begins, at least in a physical sense. Which housesystem do you use? IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 27, 2011 01:11 AM
Placidus fits my chart pretty well. difference between the 2 is whether my h11 ruler is in the 6th or 7th, I relate to the 6th v.well.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 27, 2011 08:32 AM
Lonake,Placidus fits mine, too.
here it is Taurus on the 5th house cusp, whereas in the others it is Aries. Venus as 5th house ruler makes more sense. In my case there are quite a few changes, if I change the housesystem to equal: Moon:
P: 2nd house
e: 3rd house Venus:
P: 1st house
e: 1st house, but conjunct 2nd house by one degree Jupiter:
P: 3rd house
e: 4th house Pluto:
P: 10th house
e: 11th house IP: Logged |
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