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Topic: Why can't we have one simple conversation without arguing?
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Aya_and_baby Knowflake Posts: 1109 From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2011 08:27 AM
I've known my ex for about 4 years. From the start we have never been able to get on. We're on completely different levels, emotionally and intellectually and no matter what we talk about, it always turns out in a fight.I could say he always turns it into a fight, but that sounds a bit immature, saying "it's all HIS fault!". Sadly enough, that's really how it is. Even last night he instigated an argument by randomly mentioning that he "hated spending so much money on attourneys". He knows I respond to those things, and the fact that they are seemingly "random", those comments, makes me think he says them with a clear goal in sight. He has always done this. He instigates, knowing very well that my wanting to clarify things makes me respond every time. He also exhibits quite a lot of passive-agressive behaviour this way. But... I know quite a few people who know him too, and neither of them have ever found they always seem to fall into arguments with him. I seem to be the only one with whom he incessantly finds arguments. I just don't get it anymore. I try my best to avoid them, but I can't just let myself be called every nasty name in the book by him just to avoid arguing, can I? Now, our synastry is actually quite good, considering... Apart from his Mars opposite my Venus/Neptune, it has potential. So WHY am I incapable of making him stop instigating arguments, and why does he seem to only do that with me? ------------------ [Insert catchy signature here.] IP: Logged |
Aya_and_baby Knowflake Posts: 1109 From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2011 08:34 AM
Oh, by the way: I did mention our synastry has potential, but what I was getting at is that it has potential for us to get along. I'm not attracted to him and in retrospect I never was, but that doesn't mean we can't get on as friends.I sometimes suspect he has a huge amount of anger that he seems to only take out on me for some reason. Maybe an ex who remotely looks like me messed him over and he's reflecting? ------------------ [Insert catchy signature here.] IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 500 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted August 24, 2011 09:17 AM
Mercury square mars moon square mars pluto square mars mars square uranusThat is why lol IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 500 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted August 24, 2011 09:18 AM
Also the pluto square saturn and saturn opp mars. eh... the synastry ain't great =/
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Aya_and_baby Knowflake Posts: 1109 From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2011 09:26 AM
Well, people get hung up on the Venus trine Venus, Sun trine Mars (is supposed to be sexual, but... Never noticed any of that), Sun conjunct MC, Mercury sextile Venus... Not to mention his POF on my NNode, and his NNode close to my Sun (and Saturn, of course), my NNode trine his Sun...------------------ [Insert catchy signature here.] IP: Logged |
Aya_and_baby Knowflake Posts: 1109 From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2011 09:47 AM
But, what I was trying to ask (sorry if it wasn't clear) is why is he always instigating.I'd look at his Mars opposing my Venus/Neptune, but it doesn't have any other aspects to my chart in synastry. His Mercury conjunct Uranus (well, in another sign) could suggest argumentative nature, but neither planets really suggest instigation. At least it doesn't seem that way to me. I'd see Mars or Pluto more as instigators. And his Pluto is square my Jupiter which, despite being my chart's ruler, has absolutely no major aspects to my other planets and so Pluto cannot influence anything with that square other than Jupiter. Pluto also trines my Moon, but trine is not a stressful aspect. Also his Mercury is not in aspect with his Mars or Pluto. Hence why I am a bit confused and frustrated about why he can't stop instigating arguments. I'm usually the one who responds, which of course can be signified by my Mars square his Mercury (action against what he has said, almost literally interpreted ) Well, maybe I'm focusing too hard on his Mars or Pluto in combination with his Mercury, in synastry with my chart... It is frustrating though, especially since we're supposed to get along because we have a son together, I try my best to make it happen, and then he decides to start another fight again. Interestingly, only a few people have responded to his behaviour (which he does to to most people but those are smart enough not to react to it) and out of them, some did seem to have something conjunct his Scorpio rising...
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Lonake Moderator Posts: 5040 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2011 06:11 PM
Classic Mercury sq Mars.IP: Logged |
Aya_and_baby Knowflake Posts: 1109 From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2011 04:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: Classic Mercury sq Mars.
That's definitely what starts it. He can't seem to not offend me but even from an objective point of view what he says is often offensive. Maybe I'll find the answer to that in his natal... He does have Mars trine Mercury, but again, that's a harmonic aspect... Oh well, I need to find better men ------------------ [Insert catchy signature here.] IP: Logged | |