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Topic: Give Me Your Charts Of Players
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sand Knowflake Posts: 3085 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted August 26, 2011 06:17 PM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30154 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 27, 2011 09:03 AM
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SmilingHeart Knowflake Posts: 601 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted August 27, 2011 01:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: The player must have a tenderness aspect such as cancer ASC . Otherwise they would be ugly and cardboard, plastic. A woman does not want plastic or cardboard. A Cancer moon or ASC is often there
Okay, that makes sense. There is a tenderness about him. I guess it's like a bait.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30154 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 27, 2011 01:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by SmilingHeart: Okay, that makes sense. There is a tenderness about him. I guess it's like a bait.
Yes Bait is is
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DayandNight21 Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Registered: May 2010
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posted August 29, 2011 04:47 AM
ok have been reading this and have been out with some players identified on other threads.Main one to point out was uranus square moon (switch on and off) chiron square moon (mommy issues taken out on girlfriends) triple scorpio for deception cancer moon for bait uranus conjunct mars for fast moves venus cazimi for smooth operator/charmer house positions not known, 5th house would not be a surprise the other one nearly all planets in sagittarius (got the impression he thought he was on a fairground carousel picking out women to go the rounds with) moon conjunct mars (angry at women) very strong mercury (for lies and deceit)
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DayandNight21 Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Registered: May 2010
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posted August 29, 2011 04:51 AM
Can I just add to this that whilst I agree that ruler of 10th in 5th can make a player it is not in every case. Take myself I have this but my strong conscience prevents any player tendencies (I also have 3 planets in 5th in placidus so that could make me a player) and am definately not a player. My venus trine saturn reigns me in as does the positive of saturn in 12th preventing infidelities. i do however devote inordinate amounts of time to hobbies
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DayandNight21 Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Registered: May 2010
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posted August 29, 2011 04:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v_4O44sfjM&ob=av2e Christina perri jar of hearts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP8zcjmj34Y joss stone the playersongs related to the theme, the singers astrology is sun in leo and sun in aries. Great songs.
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sand Knowflake Posts: 3085 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted August 29, 2011 04:58 AM
venus cazimi for smooth operator/charmer ^what's a cazimi? triple scorpio for deception ^you mena sun mon ac ryt? IP: Logged |
Soothsayer Knowflake Posts: 1044 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 29, 2011 05:28 AM
Hi Ami, I haven't read this whole thread (although I do plan to) but I have a few charts here for you to look at. All three are family members (one being a young teen, the other middle aged, and the last being in mid sixties). The last two used to be players and the first I think is definitely likely to be one but I'd love to know what you think. Teen Middle-aged
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sand Knowflake Posts: 3085 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted August 29, 2011 05:49 AM
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DayandNight21 Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Registered: May 2010
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posted August 29, 2011 10:46 AM
Sand A cazimi is a super strong venus (even if it is in detriment in scorpio) as it is so very close to the sun it is given added power, stronger than conjunction. A triple scorp is sun venus and mars in scorpio. I forgot to add that neptune and jupiter aspects are big factors too, the jupiter squares for hedonistic entitlement and overdoing things and the neptune ones for living in a fantasy land (this is afflicted aspects such as squares and oppositions not the trines or sextiles). IP: Logged |
DayandNight21 Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Registered: May 2010
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posted August 29, 2011 10:48 AM
It is interesting that the sun in all 3 charts above is in scorpio or libra, both signs concerned with relationships. Just a thought. For the 12th house I can see it as a contributing factor (bed pleasures, self undoing). IP: Logged |
DayandNight21 Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Registered: May 2010
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posted August 29, 2011 11:01 AM
Tiger Woods - good but not enough? From: Marjorie. (15 Jul 2010 17:20): Tiger Woods is in for the St Andrews Open bidding to become the first player to win on three successive occasions. He's playing well but others are playing better so will be interesting to see how it plays out. He does have a useful though minor tr Jupiter sextile Jupiter/NNode, tr Jupiter square SArc Venus and SArc Jupiter square Venus - none of these are hugely strong but with tr Saturn sextile his Solar Arc Midheaven he's possibly regaining steady form. Where his problems come in are from several highly emotional influences - tr Uranus square his Sun/Moon and tr Pluto conjunct his Solar Arc Venus which suggests his marital breakdown is hanging fairly heavily on him. Plus gloomy tr Saturn conjunct his Venus/Saturn and tr Neptune in a romantically disappointing square to his Venus.the above is taken from star4cast.com he has mars in scorpio (can go either way but when it does is extreme) it confirms the moon square uranus and it confrims the neptune afflictions
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30154 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 29, 2011 11:31 AM
Sooth Do you have all the times right? For me, man can't be a player without a full 5th house.
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Soothsayer Knowflake Posts: 1044 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 29, 2011 01:29 PM
Yes Ami, all the times are correct.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30154 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 29, 2011 02:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Soothsayer: Yes Ami, all the times are correct.
The one with 5th house planets I will check out and get back to you later for the story .The others I will have to throw in the circular file
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zanarkand112 Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Maryville, TN USA Registered: Jan 2010
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posted August 29, 2011 03:03 PM
There a fine line between a cheater and a player. I think of a player as someone who cannot commit, charms his way into someones heart for the good times, is completely conscious of how they are manipulating the person to get whatever they want, and as soon as things get the slightest bit too serious -- poof -- they disappear. And then usually reappear after a period of time and start the cycle all over again. They can single out a single person or do this to multiple people at the same time.But someone can cheat for a variety of reasons, never been completely sexually faithful to any of their partners excluding the length of any relationship they had, and not really have the "player mentality". (but because they are messed up mentally somehow or have an addiction problem ect they end up being sexually unfaithful down the road somehow) For this study I'll submit one guy: Regarding cheaters and players...this guy walks that line that borders on both. He was my first love, and my biggest mistake. He want to be a good person, or at least be seen as one. I won't call him evil... but he's definitely selfish and a narcissist. He HAS to have a relationship at all times. His greatest fear I think it to be alone. As soon as one ends, he is desperately searching for the next one. He is also a pathological liar, but uses his sob stories to disarm you so you feel pity for him. He is funny, extremely charming, always helping people, and comes off such a "nice guy". But he shows as much emotion as a brick wall when caught in a lie or want him to explain his intentions.
But, as I learned with him, there's another side to him...a dark side. He has a VERY promiscuous past. He's back now with the love of his life,(he was with him for four years and never got over him, and now two years later after moving in with him...) I just saw him post this profile on a website: gay man seeks p*nis 28, 5'9", 178lb, 33w, Average, Black Hair, Buzzed Body, White, Looking for Friendship. How about you come over to my house, sit on my couch, and we both jack off together. Or better yet come to my work and play with me in the restroom or out in the parking lot. not interested in Sex. not interesting in being someone's boyfriend. Be clean, be cute, and age doesn't matter. Notice the "double talk"? lol. Sad part is I know from experience this is not a joke and he means it. When you'd catch him in a lie or when he would say something that would be a red flag he would laugh it off as a joke. He was always "just joking". :| Here is his chart: Without asteroids: IP: Logged |
SmilingHeart Knowflake Posts: 601 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted August 29, 2011 06:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: The one with 5th house planets I will check out and get back to you later for the story .The others I will have to throw in the circular file
Hey Ami, I updated the chart with the requested asteroids in the thread you created. One question: do you want me to send a picture of him? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30154 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 29, 2011 07:35 PM
Please Smiling Heart Send me a pix. E mail is in the Asteroid Forum under Mod's Zank I rule out a player if the 5th house is not full. I agree that a player is calculating .A cheater may not be. The player category stands alone amongst other categories.
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amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2322 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 29, 2011 07:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: Here are the natal aspects I associate with being a player: Mars square Venus Mars --- hatred/anger directed at --- Venus/women. In the more positive manifestations it gives rise to a desire to tease women (playfully).. In the more negative manifestations it can show a desire to go out there and actually abuse women (rape, psychological or physical etc). Although I guess there is a third type who avoids relationships with women completely.
Venus in Aries Childish – Unable to understand the consequences of their actions.. -Me first- attitude in romance. They can become a player simply because they are having fun – and they don’t really feel what the other person is going through as a result of their immaturity.
(Sometimes Mars in Libra – if badly aspected… can end up a player also… But the ones I know have changed their ways later in life)
Venus Retrograde Unless you improve their social image in some way, they won’t ‘feel’ much for you. Depending on how well-placed Mars is they can have a high sex drive – but no ability to form a loving connection due to this retro, hence – player-like behaviour. Mars square Moon Similar to the above V/M… It shows a hatred towards women… This is an even stronger aspect than Venus square Mars. Their mommy didn’t love them and they intend to take it out on anyone who has a vagina.
Moon in Aries There is some anger towards female figures here also…. not wanting to submit to Love! They see having a relationship as a ‘submission’ of their freedom.
Moon square Venus Not quite as bad as the other aspects… but a man who has this might try to instigate arguments and drama. He is not happy in a smooth/caring relationship. He is also unclear on what he wants in a woman (and critical to no end).
Pisces Sun -- if mixed with any of the above aspects ^ will be a player to a point that would disgust most people. Everything I said for that particular aspect -- applies only it’s 200 times worse – and it will affect more women. The misogynistic Piscean is truly unstoppable & relentless. Quite the social-menace.
(Actually I'll throw in any mix of Aries/Pisces in a man (personal planets only!) -- come to think of it) Other nasties… include Mars square or opposition Pluto – and - Mars square or opposition Saturn! These are more so bully-aspects.. not necessarily player aspects. However if a guy has one or a few of these aspects, he may try to bully you – BY – being a player… It may be a ‘preferred’ style of harming you psychologically at whichever point in time (usually after they get it into their heads that you flirted with another guy or what not)… But they do have many other tactics to harm people – so it will not be confined to being a ‘player’.
Hi Betty, The guy that I am into has moon in aries with the following aspects: Moon Conjunction Mars 0°35 Moon Trine Saturn 0°01 Moon Trine Uranus 6°39 He is 24 right now, 3 years younger than me. He told me when we first started getting to know each other on our second date that he use to be a player when he was younger and would use women, sleep with them and never call them again. He told me he hated women and he blames his step mother for that who does sound like a horrible women. He is no longer a player and doesn't chase women anymore. He mentioned on second date that he wants a girlfriend and feels he is having difficulty getting one because of karma from using women when he was younger. The guy is a good guy but his parents weren't fit parents including and specially his step mom and really did a number on him but he is smart and has an immense desire to change and grow and is no longer a player. He does have Juno in the first house and Venus in Sagittarius which means he values a relationship that leads to growth and doesn't have any of the other aspects you mentioned thank god. I guess I am confirming your observation on moon in Aries but also pointing out that some people do regret their ways and change so having a specific aspect doesn't doom the person to been a player. I suppose if one has many aspects that would contribute to such behavior, change and growth would be harder and less likely to achieve. Thanks for the info!!! IP: Logged |
iliketurtles Knowflake Posts: 81 From: 2099 Registered: Nov 2010
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posted August 30, 2011 06:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by zanarkand112: There a fine line between a cheater and a player. I think of a player as someone who cannot commit, charms his way into someones heart for the good times, is completely conscious of how they are manipulating the person to get whatever they want, and as soon as things get the slightest bit too serious -- poof -- they disappear. And then usually reappear after a period of time and start the cycle all over again. They can single out a single person or do this to multiple people at the same time.
thats just what happened to me and courtesy of this guy who effed me up royally...
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sand Knowflake Posts: 3085 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted August 30, 2011 06:50 AM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30154 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 30, 2011 07:18 AM
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AscTaurus Knowflake Posts: 328 From: Pretoria, Gauteng,South Africa Registered: May 2009
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posted August 30, 2011 10:21 AM
Yes, Mars in Libra- i agree Venus in Virgo- search for perfection. Venus in Libra-Can't get enough of that loving feeling. Venus in Gemini-I need more than one person to stimulate me.I need a little sugar on the side. Venus-Mercury trine/sextile-Smooth operator. Venus-Neptune aspects. Idealistic love that doesn't exist. Venus in Sagittarius/Pisces. I get around or I like to spread my love far and wide. Venus square moon-yes. Don't be too soft on me.Love(Venus) is hard(square) on me(moon). Uranus Venus square- yes. Lets get other people in on this love we have. Orgies. Uranus-moon square-yes.Resists mundaness associated with stable relationships Saturn-Venus square-yes. can keep a cool distance from getting too attached. I may be committed (Saturn) but we are not in love(Venus). Juno-Neptune square Its hard to recognise(neptune) my commitment to another(Juno) Juno-Jupiter square. My marriage/ commitments are just a part of my growth. Juno in Aries/ Gemini- I rushed into this commitment(Juno) but am not so sure now Moon-square Saturn-Yes.Emotioons can be turned on and off. Jupiter-opposition/square- venus. Too much love to give."Big love" Jupiter-square -mars. "I want to try them all for size." Sun-Neptune. Search for the supreme(Neptune) soul(Sun). Moon-Neptune. I a not sure how I feel about all this. Venus in Aries- I like the beginning stages of love. I love the butterflies.More likely to be periodically infatuated. come to think of it, there are many.....
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amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2322 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 31, 2011 04:06 AM
Hi Betty,What would a female player's chart look like? What kind of aspects would one find? and what would constitute a female player, someone who is a gold digger or someone who uses men for sex? both? Laura Amelia IP: Logged |