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Lioness
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posted August 26, 2011 11:51 PM
  
I feel like I have alot of issue's with generations... It's messed up no matter what way I go...Here let me explain.. My mom/aunts/uncles/teachers/boss's have Pluto in Leo..
Their Pluto is conjunct my Leo Stellium of Sun,Moon,Merc. So lots of control issues with this generation... When I was young,,,
boy did I fight them all the way... Friends/Co-workers/partners..
People my age born early 70's have late/early Virgo Pluto which squares my Venus...
Should I say even more issues! Especially problems with other women. Mid 70's people have Saturn in Leo.. Dead on my Stellium.. All I can say is NEVER again! Friends/Co-workers/partners.. late 70's early 80's People younger than me..
Have Uranus in Scorpio..
This age group is in their 30's now.. Their Uranus is in my 8th, so they are super sexy! lol
BUTTT..
Their Uranus squares me Leo Stellium. So these relationships are quick and unstable.. Usually a fun! but gone in a flash.. If I date say an older man with Uranus/Pluto in Virgo.. Neither really touch me.. BUT they have Saturn in Pisces.. Which ends in my 12th or 1`st house..
Can I say yuck! These guys make me boring! So whats a girl to do?????????? Either way a relationship will never work out for me...
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Lonake
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posted August 27, 2011 12:49 AM
"have Pluto in Leo..
Their Pluto is conjunct my Leo Stellium of Sun,Moon,Merc."
---OK i get this, I avoid the people who have Pluto opp my Sun, no good ever comes from it"People my age born early 70's have late/early Virgo Pluto which squares my Venus...
Should I say even more issues! Especially problems with other women."
---Good idea "Mid 70's people have Saturn in Leo.. Dead on my Stellium.. All I can say is NEVER again!"
---I get this, Leo does not want their spirit to be shot down without a care "BUTTT..
Their Uranus squares me Leo Stellium. So these relationships are quick and unstable.. Usually a fun! but gone in a flash.."
---What about those a bit younger with Uranus in Sagittarius? "BUT they have Saturn in Pisces.. Which ends in my 12th or 1`st house..
Can I say yuck! These guys make me boring!"
---Saturn in the 1st is great for longevity..........
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Lioness
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posted August 27, 2011 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
"BUTTT..
Their Uranus squares me Leo Stellium. So these relationships are quick and unstable.. Usually a fun! but gone in a flash.."
---What about those a bit younger with Uranus in Sagittarius? "BUT they have Saturn in Pisces.. Which ends in my 12th or 1`st house..
Can I say yuck! These guys make me boring!"
---Saturn in the 1st is great for longevity..........
Uranus in Sag??? IDK tooo young... IDK Saturn in the first true for longevity... I had that with the ex husband, but we stayed together WAY longer than we should of...
But I stuck it out anyways.. blahhh.. IDK what got over me, like that! IP: Logged |
Aya_and_baby
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posted August 27, 2011 06:45 AM
You could try a man with Uranus in Sag and see if it works? There are quite a few mature men my age (although granted, it's still not the majority).It is kind of annoying when most of your planets are focused on one sign, isn't it? Although I have mine is mutable Sag and don't experience that much difficulty, I can imagine fixed Leo doesn't give way to conform, making it harder to find just that right person to fit. But, when you mentioned Pluto, it got me thinking. I have a little aspected Pluto (only to Mars and only just, and sextile Neptune, which is what most people over the past 40 or 50 years had) and I hardly feel its influence. Maybe there are men around of a good age (not Uranus in Sag  ) who have an equally little aspected and hardly influential Pluto? On the other hand, if it conjuncts your Leo stellium, it might stir up something in his chart, or make it more powerful. Forget what I said LOL! But you could look for men who might aspect your stellium and/or other bad placements you might have, but have a good influence? Then again, I can't imagine anyone going "before we go out, I MUST see your chart!" Me and my bright ideas...  ------------------
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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted August 27, 2011 10:37 AM
well I'm 38 and I wouldn't rule out the uranus in sag lot or the uranus in caps, if anything I've got on with them great so far.....tons better than anyone my own age group or older.IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted August 27, 2011 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by Aya_and_baby:
You could try a man with Uranus in Sag and see if it works? There are quite a few mature men my age (although granted, it's still not the majority).It is kind of annoying when most of your planets are focused on one sign, isn't it? Although I have mine is mutable Sag and don't experience that much difficulty, I can imagine fixed Leo doesn't give way to conform, making it harder to find just that right person to fit. But, when you mentioned Pluto, it got me thinking. I have a little aspected Pluto (only to Mars and only just, and sextile Neptune, which is what most people over the past 40 or 50 years had) and I hardly feel its influence. Maybe there are men around of a good age (not Uranus in Sag ) who have an equally little aspected and hardly influential Pluto? On the other hand, if it conjuncts your Leo stellium, it might stir up something in his chart, or make it more powerful. Forget what I said LOL! But you could look for men who might aspect your stellium and/or other bad placements you might have, but have a good influence? Then again, I can't imagine anyone going "before we go out, I MUST see your chart!" Me and my bright ideas...
ROFL!!! lol See Im screwed any way I go! IDK a long term relationship just isnt meant for me. What can I say. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted August 27, 2011 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
well I'm 38 and I wouldn't rule out the uranus in sag lot or the uranus in caps, if anything I've got on with them great so far.....tons better than anyone my own age group or older.
I could see this for a fling.. But not long term...
I would worry about getting older, and being left behind..
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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted August 27, 2011 03:16 PM
I think if they're the type to leave you for someone younger - they're the type that will leave you for anyone. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 27, 2011 04:21 PM
What about someone with something in Aries trine something in Sagittarius to turn your stellium into a grand trine. Have you ever had that?IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted August 27, 2011 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
What about someone with something in Aries trine something in Sagittarius to turn your stellium into a grand trine. [b]Have you ever had that?[/B]
Yeah my ex husband had an Aries Moon, trined my Stellum...
But that DAMN saturn/chiron in Pisces... Gem had early Aries mars, but that was opps my Pluto and made a G.Cross..
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Lonake
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posted August 27, 2011 09:39 PM
"But that DAMN saturn/chiron in Pisces... "
---Oh? What happened? I know the gen you're talking about with that conj. I feel so much for them regarding the Saturn Pisces and the difficulties they go through. It is a hard road. The ones who are hurting are so far away from everything that would help them. And those with Uranus opposed are even more stubborn in thinking they don't need what they're calling out for."Gem had early Aries mars, but that was opps my Pluto and made a G.Cross.. "
---Mars/Pluto can be a sexy aspect.
Why don't you post your charts?
-Natal with transits
-Natal with progressions and solar arc IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted August 27, 2011 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
"But that DAMN saturn/chiron in Pisces... "
---Oh? What happened? I know the gen you're talking about with that conj. I feel so much for them regarding the Saturn Pisces and the difficulties they go through. It is a hard road. The ones who are hurting are so far away from everything that would help them. And those with Uranus opposed are even more stubborn in thinking they don't need what they're calling out for."Gem had early Aries mars, but that was opps my Pluto and made a G.Cross.. "
---Mars/Pluto can be a sexy aspect.
Why don't you post your charts?
-Natal with transits
-Natal with progressions and solar arc
Ok here you go.. The ex husband
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Lonake
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posted August 27, 2011 10:49 PM
I'm sorry I meant your natal with transits, that chart, and also your natal with progressions and solar arc, so I could read what's going on for you right now and near future in terms of love.Also, I think it's important to be alone sometimes.
To regroup and figure yourself out, what you need, and what you want in relationships.
I don't see what's wrong with that.
Plus you have strong Leo and Pisces which isn't known for being able to detach in love matters.
Tho I know that you are very sharp, smart and astute so am not questioning your intelligence -at all-. But we're dealing with matters of the heart here, not the head.
That's what I can say without seeing your chart. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted August 27, 2011 11:01 PM
Ohhh Sorry... lol... I totally misunderstood..
But that would be awesome of you!
Here's everything in one shot.
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Lioness
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posted August 27, 2011 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
I'm sorry I meant your natal with transits, that chart, and also your natal with progressions and solar arc, so I could read what's going on for you right now and near future in terms of love.Also, I think it's important to be alone sometimes.
To regroup and figure yourself out, what you need, and what you want in relationships.
I don't see what's wrong with that.
Plus you have strong Leo and Pisces which isn't known for being able to detach in love matters.
Tho I know that you are very sharp, smart and astute so am not questioning your intelligence -at all-. But we're dealing with matters of the heart here, not the head.
That's what I can say without seeing your chart.
Ahhh.... Yeah Im been focusing.. I havent dated any one in a while... But deep down inside I just feel that Im not meant to be happy in any relationships...
Even though I desire it, and need it.. Ill never be able to make it happen..
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posted August 28, 2011 12:17 AM
Hi, a'm a long time reader here...
The first time i realized generation problem was a boy, 14 years younger then me, his SATURN/Pluto conjunction opposites my SUN/MOON/SATURN/MERC stellium, but HIS MOON is ON my SUN/MOON/SATURN/MERC stellium. Greate Love, love - pain, i'm still recovering...IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 28, 2011 02:51 AM
Hi Lioness, just taking a quick look, your Moon/Mercury are v.important for you re: love, they are conj and they rule the 5th/7th houses.
Your sa.Moon/Merc are conj at 22 Virgo on top of your p.Mars at 21 Virgo. Mars rules your 2nd house of self worth and is placed in the 6th house of service so you may be thinking now that relationships are just about what you can do for others, you being subservient and them never working out in your favor? A question of 'who comes out on top' not an equal partnership that is the ideal? p.Mars going through the natal 7th also wants action on the relationship front, may attract partners who push you out of yourself at this time.
I can see the frustration in love with natal Venus being involved in a tsquare with no supporting aspects.
Right now you also have p.Venus conj SA.Venus at 9/10 Leo inching closer to your v.important natal Moon/Merc close conj at 14 Leo. It's gonna take a while for it to be exact conj (I can't say when cos I don't have birth data) but it will be in the next few yrs. It will be intense as Venus rules your 8th and is natally sq Pluto. You can expect a life changing relationship that is directly in line with your needs for emotional closeness and emotional clarity. And then p. and sa. Venus will come up to conj your n.Sun at 16 Leo a bit farther on. So I am guessing that something is in the pipeline for you.
Something that's been taking a beating is your p.Moon conj t.Pluto, p.Moon 9 Cap, t.Pluto right now is 4 Cap Rx, I don't have your chart so can't tell if they'll connect again. In Feb/Mar of this yr if you can think back around that time it was closer still since it was t. at 7 Capricorn and of course your Moon was earlier in Capricorn then, so think back to what you were going through emotionally at that time, what issues came up. Moon/Pluto can tear bonds away that we thought we needed for our survival to make sure that we have the strength to stand alone and look to ourselves for nurturing instead of another. I know you went through something with your Pisces but I don't remember when that was. Remember Moon rules your 5th so it will have strong bearing on your romances.
In the immediate future though your chart romance wise is set up for delusion which I can see a few diff ways,
-p.Moon 9 Cap conj (n.h5 ruler) conj sa.Neptune at 10 Cap (asc ruler) I'm reading this as you wanting to don rose colored glasses when it comes to romance. You could be ripe for being lied to and duped. Not saying it will happen just forewarning.
-t.Neptune sq. n.Neptune, now this isn't exact, it was closer to exact a few mos ago, they were 2 or so degs off, but early next yr is when Neptune will enter Pisces again and continue on not to Rx back into Aquarius again. But it will go over a close square to your n.Neptune for a while in the 1st half of '12. Neptune is like I said ASC ruler so v.important in seeing what you want to see.
-that same t.Neptune in early Pisces will also be conj your sa.NN that is in your natal 12th. A -great- time for spiritual practices, meditation, spiritual aims, not good for thinking you are seeing people clearly, as it will sq n.Neptune at same time. And to top it off n.Neptune is in the 9th so you're already natally hardwired for expansive aims and religious/spiritual pursuits/foreign travel/volunteering/working with social outcasts, so I would go after that. It's your ASC ruler after all. I wouldn't fall in love with them I would see it as a good time to showcase compassion both to yourself and others. Like I said your Moon is on Neptune right now so you're needing that kind of connection that mortals can't give you at this time.
If you look at your 7th you see a lot of action so matters aren't gonna die down anytime soon but like you said you want something other than a repeat of the past. And like I said before, you're the 'great attractor' 
Also keep an eye to what happens around the time sa.Moon/Merc goes to conj your n.Pluto in the 7th. It'll be around the same time that p.Sun goes over it, so there are some big changes underway. Keep your wits about you and use what you learned during t.Pluto conj p.Moon (!) In fact that may be around the same time that p.Venus goes over n.Moon/Mercury.
You have
-Pluto in the 7th
-Pluto in Libra
-Venus sq Pluto
Woman all you're missing is Venus in the 8th and Venus in Scorpio for the big dramatic Venus/Pluto extravaganza. So don't even try to run from it, you *know* that you have to get this Venus/Pluto deal figured out one of these days (!)
I have Pluto in Libra and Venus sq Pluto too so I'm right there with ya And I know someone younger with, wait for it, Venus in Scorp conj Pluto in Scorp, and man she went through the ringer (really abusive relationships) but finally found someone. Granted, her love is a diff gender than what she thought she wanted, but there ya go, Pluto rules transformation and Venus the love life.
Do you sometimes feel like you're waiting for a passionate man to sweep you off your feet since you have Pluto in the 7th and all?IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted August 28, 2011 02:53 AM
Both my parents have their pluto really close to my sun. -_-..IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 28, 2011 03:17 AM
Also your Venus t square missing leg is 0 Aries in the 1st. That means putting forward your own needs and wants full stop rather than bending to others whims and having that dictate your romantic life. Venus rules your 8th too so that's another Venus/Pluto dynamic.Think of it as having a 0 Aries NN in the 1st.
What is a person with that meant to learn? "IDK a long term relationship just isnt meant for me. What can I say. "
---Well you do have Uranus in the 7th in Libra so you have to be clear with yourself re:what kind of relationship dynamic will work for you.
For example I have Uranus ruling my 7th and placed in the 5th, and I'm far enough along to know that marriage will never work for me as in the typical living with someone for a bazillion yrs. But I could be happy living next door or down the street from someone I had a strong romantic interest in since I need to have a place to call my own where I call the shots (pluto in the 4th sq moon), as well as a place of retreat where I can be alone (lotsa loner factors in my chart). And of course I attract Uranian types, and went 'woe is me' til I realized I don't want the cookie cutter romance. Just one other Uranus/h7 opinion..... IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted August 28, 2011 03:40 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Also your Venus t square missing leg is 0 Aries in the 1st. That means putting forward your own needs and wants full stop rather than bending to others whims and having that dictate your romantic life. Venus rules your 8th too so that's another Venus/Pluto dynamic.Think of it as having a 0 Aries NN in the 1st.
What is a person with that meant to learn?
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats a big problem with me....
I thought it was the pisces asc bending to them... All I can say is WOW.. your amazing!!
Thanks for the great reading.. Humm back in Feb/Mar... I was still talking to pisces, but if I recall correctly, I was feeling it wasnt right... Once the eclipse hit it was all said and done.. I think Ive really been feeling that Cap moon, everything internal changed for me, once it went into Cap.. I cant really explain the difference, but Ive felt it. Not reserved but more serious.. IDK...
Yeah I guess with neptune I do want that fairy tale romance that doesnt exists. Every man just seems to really annoy me lately... I just cant get my self to get interested in anyone lately... Feeling really blah.. But feeling like I want to but I cant.. As for my pluto/venus t-square.. Are you saying its like have Venus in Scorpio in H8? I do know most of my relationships are both Uranus/Pluto.. I expect it.. Im just use to it already.. I guess... Another big change coming???? I dont even know what to say... sighhhh makes me fear "what else am I in store for"
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posted August 28, 2011 04:16 AM
I would say it will be a v.big Plutonian relationship, it's up to you what tone it will take. Remember Aries in the 1st (!)
And the Venus/Pluto dynamic is v.strong in your chart so you do have to learn how it can work for you rather than against.IP: Logged |
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posted August 28, 2011 04:34 AM
I have only looked at the first chart, the one with the Aries moon. That male had sun conjunct pluto in virgo if I am not mistaken and that is as plutonian as you can get. So the venus pluto could have been attracted to the intensity of this male. He could have been a powerhouse with that combo but he could also have been controlling.
Will have another look later.
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posted August 28, 2011 05:02 AM
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
I think if they're the type to leave you for someone younger - they're the type that will leave you for anyone.
My best friends husband leave her for an 10 years old older woman. Real love not care about a number. LolIP: Logged |
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posted August 28, 2011 05:21 AM
Generation in my family.My mothers dads pluto opp hers sun.= my mother always talk about the barriar between them. My Pluto square my mothers sun
My daughters Pluto square my sin The only I can say about this.... We are not afraid of take any conflict to each other at all. We have so many other good aspect between each other so we always resolve the problem. IP: Logged |
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posted August 28, 2011 12:31 PM
The second male is a sun conjunct saturn in gemini. Gemini with an aries mars could work well with Leo; however the conjunct sun saturn in particular can lead to selfishness. If it didn't work out then there are plenty more fish in the sea. I have dated sun trine saturn with several men and the saturn influence is notable. The actress Sandra Bullock has several months ago separated from a mars in sag and sun conjunct saturn man (in aries not gemini)and some of the website write ups will provide further insight on that sun saturn conjunction. Would say that it depends on your chart too, it could be the case that some saturn from one party is needed to reign in a fire air chart for instance or to give solidity to a water extreme chart. I have a fairly strong saturn so do not look for that in a partner as it could depress me and I need lightening up not anything too heavy as the saturn makes me a realist anyway. Therefore it depends on what your chart indicates you need and both the synastry and progressed will say more.
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