posted August 27, 2011 07:13 PM            

he was born Sept. 16, 1987, therefore, his planet placements are...

sun.virgo.
moon.can.
mercury.libra.
venus.virgo.
mars.virgo.
jupiter.aries.
saturn.sag.
uranus.sag.
neptune.cap.
pluto.scorp.

Mines is in my signature (below).

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10.04.88 @ 12:52PM

posted August 27, 2011 07:39 PM            

Ah, and that Libra Mercury.
If the Moon actually squares Mercury, his feelings conflict with his thoughts, hence the hesitation.

Virgo Venus and Mars.. He is picky.
He wants perfection in a mate.
I bet he's got high standards.

But here is what I think.
If the guy says he doesn't want a relationship, he's probably a commitment-phobic, or simply not interested enough.
And if what you want is a relationship, it's probably better to leave him alone, because obviously the guy won't be able to satisfy your needs.

posted August 27, 2011 09:38 PM            

I have a libra moon, venus and mercury.
Virgo sun and mars
Aries rising (this makes me want to hurry the hell up, BUT the virgoness still shows haha.

He stares at you. If he's kinda uncomfortable... That's a good thing. I think unless the guy's mars and venus is in fire signs or has air... They're generally kinda shy with ppl they're interested in. Like if they act aloof with you, but different to other ppl, they're interested.
I have an air moon, venus and mercury but seriously...My virgo mars still acts kinda uncomfortable and shy haha..

And yeah, we are quite picky and LOL he has a libra mercury ahhaha... libran planets make ppl indecisive, like me haha.
I know your aries mars wants him to hurry up already lol, but just wait ok?

posted August 27, 2011 10:24 PM            

Yes, Virgos can be cautious and self-critical and shy. I am sympathetic to this, especially as a Virgo rising myself. But my sympathy ended when my ex wouldn't take responsibility for the fact that he was jerking me around. If you have a mature Virgo on your hands, he will eventually put some skin in the game. If he doesn't, it's his loss.

posted August 28, 2011 01:44 AM            

That Sun Virgo is not so much the reason as Cancer Moon and Venus and Mars in Virgo. That explains the to and fro dancing. Also the choosyness and 'high' standards (high according to their definations). You can think on lines of what Doux said here.

posted August 28, 2011 02:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Malena:
My Virgo ex was his own worst enemy. Soooooo self-critical that he couldn't see a girl who liked him (me) standing right in front of his face.

Yes, Virgos can be cautious and self-critical and shy. I am sympathetic to this, especially as a Virgo rising myself. But my sympathy ended when my ex wouldn't take responsibility for the fact that he was jerking me around. If you have a mature Virgo on your hands, he will eventually put some skin in the game. If he doesn't, it's his loss.

I think the "I'm going to get rejected" mentality can become a self-fulfilling prophecy for Virgos if they aren't careful.

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posted August 28, 2011 04:05 AM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
I'm a virgo sun and mars. Ok so this is how it is. We virgos are cautious and we're scared to get hurt. Hence why we observe and evaluate the situations before doing anything. We're not impulsive, and we don't like to make mistakes or waste our time, so we need to first see if you are worth the effort? We CAN be light hearted, but with relationships (unless we're looking to have fun and have a fling) we're hoping to find somebody and have a stable relationship... Hence the pace lol we go at.

I have a libra moon, venus and mercury.
Virgo sun and mars
Aries rising (this makes me want to hurry the hell up, BUT the virgoness still shows haha.

He stares at you. If he's kinda uncomfortable... That's a good thing. I think unless the guy's mars and venus is in fire signs or has air... They're generally kinda shy with ppl they're interested in. Like if they act aloof with you, but different to other ppl, they're interested.
I have an air moon, venus and mercury but seriously...My virgo mars still acts kinda uncomfortable and shy haha..

And yeah, we are quite picky and LOL he has a libra mercury ahhaha... libran planets make ppl indecisive, like me haha.
I know your aries mars wants him to hurry up already lol, but just wait ok?

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posted August 28, 2011 05:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Malena:
My Virgo ex was his own worst enemy. Soooooo self-critical that he couldn't see a girl who liked him (me) standing right in front of his face.

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Virgo

...i can attest to this!
:sigh:

anyone point out to OP that her south node was more than likely in virgo along with that guy's sun
?

posted August 28, 2011 05:44 AM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
Virgo

...i can attest to this!
:sigh:

anyone point out to OP that her south node was more than likely in virgo along with that guy's sun
?

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lol, are you talking about me?

posted August 28, 2011 06:02 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Lol. Funny. This happens to me all the time with Virgo guys. That's why I kind of avoid them now. They are sooo hard to understand for me, a cancer woman.

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posted August 28, 2011 06:11 AM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
I'm a virgo sun and mars. Ok so this is how it is. We virgos are cautious and we're scared to get hurt. Hence why we observe and evaluate the situations before doing anything. We're not impulsive, and we don't like to make mistakes or waste our time, so we need to first see if you are worth the effort? We CAN be light hearted, but with relationships (unless we're looking to have fun and have a fling) we're hoping to find somebody and have a stable relationship... Hence the pace lol we go at.

I have a libra moon, venus and mercury.
Virgo sun and mars
Aries rising (this makes me want to hurry the hell up, BUT the virgoness still shows haha.

He stares at you. If he's kinda uncomfortable... That's a good thing. I think unless the guy's mars and venus is in fire signs or has air... They're generally kinda shy with ppl they're interested in. Like if they act aloof with you, but different to other ppl, they're interested.
I have an air moon, venus and mercury but seriously...My virgo mars still acts kinda uncomfortable and shy haha..

And yeah, we are quite picky and LOL he has a libra mercury ahhaha... libran planets make ppl indecisive, like me haha.
I know your aries mars wants him to hurry up already lol, but just wait ok?

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posted August 28, 2011 10:42 AM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
It's not a 'I'm going to get rejected' mentality. It's a 'I want to see what kind of person you are, before I proceed to ask you out or do anything else'

I recently met a guy with on leo/virgo cusp. He's really outgoing, and has everything going for him, but he acted cold and indifferent towards me. I really doubt it's fear of rejection. Virgos just are more cautious about things.

It's weird. My aries rising causes me to be less shy, but the cautious side still exists.

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Good point, it may not be fear of rejection for all Virgos. But I have a ton of Virgos in my family and for some of them, that is definitely the case. They have an idea of perfection and if they don't meet it, they assume you will come down on them as hard as they come down on themselves. It's sad and I'm sympathetic, but it can also be really frustrating to deal with.

posted August 28, 2011 12:04 PM            

I can understand both points. I do think that for some Virgos it is a fear of rejection and for some Virgos it is more of an evaluation thing. I know for me it is usually a combination of the two, but in the end it's usually more of a problem with the evaluation end of it.

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Sometimes yes but the trick is to sweep your virgo guy/girl off their feet if you love them, before they even have chance to think. lol

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I think this is true too, HOWEVER, once the Virgo comes to their senses and is over the initial shock of being swept off their feet, they'll start analyzing... And it won't always be pretty.

For instance, I once dated a guy who did the whole sweeping me off of my feet thing to begin with (and my Aries Moon and Leo Mars was happy to oblige), but a few weeks in I started to realize this guy was going WAAAAY too fast (I just met him!!!) and I also knew that emotionally, he was very unbalanced (had a temper that would skyrocket in 10 seconds)and I knew that I could not be the one to *heal* him. Therefore, I knew, ultimately, the relationship would not work out. (Virgos do a lot of if X=Z then why should I go through the +Y part to get there?)

I don't know if any other Virgos could speak to this, but I think, due to our natural ability as healers (6th house=healing), we attract to us partners who need some sort of healing. I constantly get the guys who are not over their exes or the guys who are not over their ego issues. They FIND ME. But the irony is I want someone who is already self-healed and who can stand on their own two feet.

posted August 28, 2011 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by enchantress299:

In any case, WhothathGirrl, I hope that you don't swear off Virgos forever. I get really irritated when people swear off one sun sign thinking that's the whole story. It's not, and people are complicated. If the guy isn't going for you immediately, keep him in the back of your head, but keep on looking around and if someone else comes up, then cool, but if not, maybe the Virgo will finally decide what he wants.

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I have to look at their chart first. Sun sign is only a portion of him. However, a lot of times it's not about their chart. It's about their past relationships. For instance, this man only keeps a girl for 6 months. His longest (and ONLY) relationship lasted a year. The reason for their break up is because she moved to another state. After that, it was off/on, then she cheated and got pregnant. Therefore, i think that's why he's being so cautious. It probably really hurt him when she did that, but I don't think he's going to commit... at least not with me... I think I'm a little too free and flirty. However, you never know.

posted August 29, 2011 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by enchantress299:
Hmmm...

I can understand both points. I do think that for some Virgos it is a fear of rejection and for some Virgos it is more of an evaluation thing. I know for me it is usually a combination of the two, but in the end it's usually more of a problem with the evaluation end of it.

I think this is true too, HOWEVER, once the Virgo comes to their senses and is over the initial shock of being swept off their feet, they'll start analyzing... And it won't always be pretty.

For instance, I once dated a guy who did the whole sweeping me off of my feet thing to begin with (and my Aries Moon and Leo Mars was happy to oblige), but a few weeks in I started to realize this guy was going WAAAAY too fast (I just met him!!!) and I also knew that emotionally, he was very unbalanced (had a temper that would skyrocket in 10 seconds)and I knew that I could not be the one to *heal* him. Therefore, I knew, ultimately, the relationship would not work out. (Virgos do a lot of if X=Z then why should I go through the +Y part to get there?)

I don't know if any other Virgos could speak to this, but I think, due to our natural ability as healers (6th house=healing), we attract to us partners who need some sort of healing. I constantly get the guys who are not over their exes or the guys who are not over their ego issues. They FIND ME. But the irony is I want someone who is already self-healed and who can stand on their own two feet.

In any case, WhothathGirrl, I hope that you don't swear off Virgos forever. I get really irritated when people swear off one sun sign thinking that's the whole story. It's not, and people are complicated. If the guy isn't going for you immediately, keep him in the back of your head, but keep on looking around and if someone else comes up, then cool, but if not, maybe the Virgo will finally decide what he wants.

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