posted August 29, 2011 07:18 PM            

(a spouse/partner is not to be confused with a boyfriend/girlfriend)

posted August 29, 2011 08:01 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
That's a big plus.
The relationship between your Asc. & Desc. Rulers show how those two areas of your life get along.
(you and partnerships, marriage, etc.)
The conjunction says they are on the same page as far as wants and needs are concerned. I would think these two areas are smooth running.

(a spouse/partner is not to be confused with a boyfriend/girlfriend)

p.s. what are eggs in a basket?

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So my conunction might mean the wants and need are the same, while somthing like Chaos' trine would be that the want and needs work well together. I'm having trouble thinking of the opposition compared to the square. Maybe the opposition would mean not being sure what you want or need or not knowing the difference...but then I'm stuck on the square. I don't know lol. If anyone wants to jump in with that one...

posted August 29, 2011 08:14 PM            

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Originally posted by maira:
I have the same ascendant and conjunction, with the sun too. They're in Aries. Not sure about how it's manifesting since it's all bundled up (0 degrees conjunction at 16 degrees in Aries, but in the 7th). But I'd venture to say that you have lots of sex appeal
Not connected to asc/desc rulers though, just general info about venus - mars contacts in a natal.

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I'm not great at interpretation, but my venus/mars is conjunct jupiter in leo and I can feel it pretty strongly. If yours is in aries, in your seventh house (libra rising?) and conjunct your sun you must be a very intense and magnetic person,...I'm sure in a good way. Mine's in fire also but in the 11th and without the sun and I have an empty 7th house so I'm curious to compare just based on that. Sorry if I'm rambling...it's one of those days for me.

posted August 29, 2011 09:34 PM            

ASC
Ruler: Mars - Leo 5th House
Sub-Ruler: Pluto - Libra 6th House

DSC
Ruler: Eris – Aries 12th House (Rx)
Sub-Ruler: Venus – Scorpio 8th House

Aspects:
Venus tri-decile Mars
Venus sesqui-quadrate Eris
Venus novile DSC
Mars sextile Pluto
Mars trine Eris
Pluto opposed Eris
Pluto opposed ASC
Pluto conjunct DSC
Pluto conjunct NN
Eris conjunct SN

I see this axis as “the way one experiences self/self and other/self relationships”.

ASC – I see my self as a unique nova of potentiality, a star constantly evolving and unfolding. I have a very strong drive toward creativity, self-expression, self-discovery, and self-respect. When I close my eyes and view my self, I see the same person I was as a baby. I can see other planetary dynamics obfuscating my pure expression and struggle with frustration about wanting to burn away negative emotional clutter accumulated through life. There is almost a child-like understanding that no matter what happens to the body, nothing can harm the self. My ASC plays a large part in an invincibility vs mortality theme which arises elsewhere in my chart. Beneath that shiny childlike Mars/Leo star throbs Pluto. I am learning about myself so I can be the best me I can be... to most efficiently relate with and serve others. The drive is like a “call of the wild” you could ignore it, but you feel like you are going against your nature (Pluto conj DSC). The more I get to know my self, the more I can relate to other's personal struggles (Libra). The more I relate to others, the better I can serve them (6th House) on their path to connecting with their unique potential.

Aspects - The Mars/Venus tri-decile creates an ability to value or cherish any “self” with an x-ray vision type depth of understanding. Mars/Pluto sextile super-charges this aspect whenever it is channeled through the ASC, and Chiron in the 1st brings it into either a space of feeling misunderstood by others who I feel deeply (negative), or creates a compassionate equanimity of self, which radiates to others and inspires them to share their personal struggles and fears (positive). Often times striking up conversations with strangers results in them walking away feeling like we are best friends. Regarding the Mars/Eris trine, I have to admit the desire to retreat into self (12th house), challenge my self to be “more special compared to others”, and the constant internal games themed “you are different from others because...” drive me to avoid involvement with others and stifles the service I feel so passionately about expressing. My ASC projects a public face which my deeper parts struggle to support. This trine creates a power struggle between reveling in self-destructive views and stepping out of the way of one's true nature. When I learn to overcome it, it should result in an ability to automatically identify views which are contrary to a harmonious nature. It could also result in an ability to inspire conflict within others resulting in a closer understanding of their true nature (though that seems a bit manipulative).

DSC – In my younger years I viewed others as competitors for me to outshine. Relating to my environment was a very contrived experience, as I felt very separate from others. I sought an empathic and connected relationship with others based on how they could further my understanding of who the hell I am and why the hell I'm here. In fact, the abilities to inspire others to open up discussed above, were often used as a personal challenge to prove that I could expose people's guts. Beneath my self-centered and disconnected view of separateness from others ached Venus. Venus also played a part in supporting a manipulative and power play view of others, but she yearned for a true, deep, reciprocating connection. My deepest relationship was with a Pisces, heavy with Aries and Aquarian energy (Uranus is in my 7th). He was just bat-crap insane, but both our disconnected/empathic natures resulted in a strong understanding of the value and beauty of others. As time passed, I learned to perceive the connectivity of all things. The concept of “other” is very insubstantial for me now. I learned to view us all as mirror reflections teaching each other about a shared self, or separate sense organs of a unified organism, tasting it's self and discussing it's experiences. As I grow further, I learn that attempting to define anything depreciates the experience. I now see self/other as both an illusion and and a valuable opportunity for the expression of our collective nature. My Scorpio Venus appreciates deep connections and learning experiences. I am learning that vulnerability is the key to experiencing a harmonious nature.

Aspects – Eris/Venus sesqui-quadrate generates a conflict between my disharmonious views of self and an attraction toward deep connection with others. To this day if I stop paying attention to my interactions with others, I return to a manipulative and self-absorbed me. Finding the constructive expression of this aspect is important if I ever want to maintain valuable exchanges between self and environment. Eris/Mars trine can add a forceful energy to Eris, but Mars's Leo is not a huge fan of blatantly obvious flaws (which a belligerent Eris certainly is). When I become aware of my forceful selfish nature, kitty slinks in and starts playfully batting Eris around. Learning to be playful with my self has been the key to melting down the severity of Eris's chaos-fest. Eris/Pluto opposition acts as a bit of a conscience. When Eris is on a good one, even Pluto can be overpowered. I have watched myself act out of a negative Eris and no matter how hard Pluto beat my spirit against my body, my only option for repair was to stand my self up and sit myself in a corner, until I could recover more sane perspectives. Venus/Mars tri-decile was discussed above, but in regards to DSC, it has a lot to do with the lessons I learned from the relationship I mentioned. Eris being in the 12th seems to be particularly difficult because she plays with one's spirit and forces a huge void between the private, confined self vs the expressed self. Venus, though in Scorpio, really acts to draw the self out of solitude and seek companionship. Mars is a very helpful tool for supporting Venus's attraction here. Venus/DSC novile is a pretty simple energy for me, it basically enhances my attraction to others who act as spiritual teachers or those who bring fortunate growth to my life. That one I could do without, but hey, it's insurance that I will maintain a desire to connect deeply to those who help me grow. Pluto/DSC conjunction intensifies a connection with my environment, it also gives me a strong desire to relate with and serve my environment.

posted August 29, 2011 10:25 PM            

The eggs sound yummy.

Yes the trine works
(I have this)
no matter what else is going on, these two areas (h 1&7) are usually in sync.

posted August 30, 2011 12:18 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
gah! mine sucks! asc in scorpio, ruler pluto is on the asc LOL. dc is taurus, ruler venus is conjunct the dc. yep they oppose!

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posted August 30, 2011 01:34 AM            

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Originally posted by wfg363:
But do you feel like it helps that the rulers are conjunct their axis or does it emphasize the opposition? I'm curious...I would think is emphasizes it but I don't know...

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well i like the rulers conjuncting my angles. but the venus- pluto is indeed emphasized. i might not be suited for marriage even though the venus in taurus would like it very much.

posted August 30, 2011 02:05 AM            

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Originally posted by northernlad:
ruler of my AC and ruler of my DC don't make an aspect.

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Huh...maybe it's not something that you have to worry about or it's not something that is active in your chart (not to say they don't mean anything, but maybe it's similar to empty houses...?)Of course it depends on you chart...

posted August 30, 2011 03:05 AM            

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Originally posted by wfg363:
Xiira,

I am so impressed by the insight you have into yourself and your chart. I don't think I have the astrological knowledge or life experience to be that self-aware yet, but hope to at some point. That's an amazing gift.

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Take your time, having insight and acquiring the courage to use it are equally valuable. You are Libra ASC so your axis deals with similar basic themes. Appreciation of personal beauty and individuality may be more your thing however. Just remember the most perfect beauty requires only acceptance and manifests naturally =)

posted August 30, 2011 04:31 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Wfg363---whoa! When were you born! I'm july 6, 1989

i also have sun in cancer, venus conjunct mars in leo and libra rising! Haha

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posted August 30, 2011 02:59 PM            

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Originally posted by wfg363:
Huh...maybe it's not something that you have to worry about or it's not something that is active in your chart (not to say they don't mean anything, but maybe it's similar to empty houses...?)Of course it depends on you chart...

I'd be interested to know what you think it means or how needs/wants manifest or your outer personality and "inner" personality interact, etc...

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posted August 30, 2011 05:36 PM            

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Originally posted by northernlad:
I've always felt my outer and inner personalities are at odds. I've got a Sag ASC conjunct Uranus. My chart ruler, Jupiter, is in Aquarius. Jupiter and Uranus are sextile and in mutual reception. EVERYTHING else in my chart is in water and earth signs. There's also a quincunx between my Venus in Taurus and Uranus conj ASC in Sag. So, maybe the fact that my AC/DC rulers don't make an aspect speaks to this disconnect?

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posted August 30, 2011 05:46 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I was born at 2:34 pm. I checked and we have a few aspects in common, lile mercury opp uranus, venus and mars square pluto and quincunx neptune. I have sun opp saturn and you have quincunx saturn. I have mercury conjunct jupiter and you have mercury trine jupiter.

I also have a leo moon whil u have a sag moon. I wonder if we look similar lol

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posted August 30, 2011 05:52 PM            

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Originally posted by wfg363:
Then feeling a disparity would make more sense, definitely. Where is your mercury? Is Jupiter your only planet in air? I'm curious because I have only my saturn (which is pretty strong) in aquarius and my ascendent squaring a lot of stuff, including my sun, in libra. And since your DC is air and your chart ruler in air, if it was the only one...I don't know where I'm going with this but I'm very curious about it .

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posted August 30, 2011 06:27 PM            

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Originally posted by northernlad:
lol... yes, Jupiter in Aqua is my only air planet, unless you count Chiron in Gem. Mercury is in Cancer in the 7th. Uranus/ASC is my only fire. So Jupiter and Uranus have each other, and not much else going for them.

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lol Well, at least your AC ruler is in your DC sign and your DC ruler is in your AC sign (or at least conjunct). Maybe the disconnect is more noticeable because they are all alone in their elements...they have nothing to relate to...I'm not sure if Chiron would make it better or worse .

I have mercury in cancer too...I'm not sure how I feel about it ...