posted September 03, 2011 11:58 PM            

Amazing.

posted September 04, 2011 12:06 AM            

Heheheheh, did u missed this most important aspect of astrology?

Powerful fixed stars override everything else imo

"Ok, yes Spica conj 2 deg orb"

U'll hardly believe what a treasure is that.
The orb could go more also having in mind the company around.

posted September 04, 2011 12:14 AM            

"U'll hardly believe what a treasure is that."
---On the IC tho, so you would interpret keeping in mind what it is conj, or does it matter at all as long as it makes a conjunction?

posted September 04, 2011 12:18 AM            

Just put them on astro.com when making charts and watch the show.

posted September 04, 2011 12:25 AM            

It's not like IC is less important, is it?

If the whole chart is a tree, AC-DC are the branches, IC is the root, MC - the fruits.

IC is our divine egotism - ever seen roots give out something

posted September 04, 2011 12:27 AM            

I've researched them alot and know exactly what they mean.

posted September 04, 2011 12:28 AM            

"If the whole chart is a tree, AC-DC are the branches, IC is the root, MC - the fruits."
---This is true.

posted September 04, 2011 12:33 AM            

true.

But this is coz ppl. are not living them enough hehe

The mass is permanently fixed in IC n DC

IC - "what is in it for me"; taking care of family
DC - relationships

Ppl. are glued with that u know.

"Do you consider squares or opps to fixed stars or just conj? "

posted September 04, 2011 12:42 AM            

Ouch,
no time at all

But if you want any, ANY info give me a whistle

posted September 04, 2011 12:52 AM            

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posted February 08, 2013 05:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ I read that as Mars dominant over Saturn types initially backing away from commitment and intimacy until a time comes where they meet someone and they choose to take in the benefits of Saturn, the sustainability of a relationship for example vs. the sexual/romantic conquests of Mars acting alone without the commitment in bachelorhood. Having the access to Saturn be through the relationship that he chooses, that one that clicks and says to him you can be something more and you don't need to be afraid of growing up, you can have what you want and retain a masculine nature except now it will be a mature version and that is in keeping with responsibly taking hold of his Saturn. Mars/Saturn can easily read as fear of intimacy which often sits alongside fear of commitment, but if there is commitment then Mars/Saturn would like to be in control to maintain that distance. Control in that way of the partner is not strong Saturn, either. It is fear-based which is basically Mars trying on the big daddy Saturn suit and acting out. It's one thing to put on the costume and another to morph into character. So if that helps any, you can let it marinate and see how it fits for you.

Here is one interpretation of the above, I met a man who has Mars conjunct Saturn in Scorpio (of a different generation than you so Pluto is not nearby) and we dated for a time. And he was quite certain of what he wanted, no fear in going after that, but there was a sense that he felt poised to go to bat if what he strongly desired felt like it was slipping away (and in the same vein if his interest in that way was being threatened). Mars is the active young man with all the passions of youth and the urge to make his mark, to stand for something, Saturn an older and wiser version who can look past his impulses and desires to see what has meaning to him and what he will then invest in, what is worth his time and effort since the old are not about wasting their energy. Back to my ex, super-conscious of the need to fight for what was his, v.much on the lookout for anyone would would even think of messing with it. Even though he had been married previously, was no longer young, had had children, the fighter was ever present and it came out when his Mars felt threatened, his Scorpio v.much kept a strong grip of those he desired. A stronger Saturn would have more self control, not be given as much to impulse, but his in Scorpio reacted from emotional fear that perceived loss meant he was going under never to return (don't underestimate Scorpio for bringing the drama). So his Mars in Scorp was up against my Saturn in Libra, so many of our interactions were on that playing field. If he could have given up the need to win, the compulsiveness of having something to show for his benefit for every effort he put into things (the young want it all), if he had accessed his Saturn a bit more he would have felt much more at ease. And this was not a young man. He was older and still living within a Mars-based masculinity, which you can read as conquest and capture, search and destroy, among others; they're both Mars. We're still friends and as he stands now he is still the primed fighter, and proud of it. Is he at ease, no, has his health failed in certain ways that let him know he wasn't indestructible, yes, but there is still something there that hasn't clicked and that hasn't brought him peace. Mars/Saturn reads often as simply 'frustration.'

To give more info on his natal, Mars is 4 deg, Saturn 7 deg, they're in the 11th, Mars rules his 5th, Saturn rules his 2nd, and they make a sextile to his Sun at 6 Capricorn. As Saturn is the dispositor of his Sun the conjunction has added emphasis.
Yours has added emphasis as well being in the 1st, tho they are not close are they? But still in same sign they will share energy.
Mine has added emphasis as Saturn is the dispositor of my Moon and it's angular, and Mars rules the MC.

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