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Topic: Lonake, Ceri, Geo,Maira LL Friends--A Question
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Ami Anne
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posted September 12, 2011 08:14 AM
  
What do you think of this. I met a man. My Mercury is exactly conjunct his Jupiter which is in his 12th.His Jupiter is super stressed by everything,squares to Pluto, Uranus,Mars, Saturn.My mind(Mercury) sits on his Jupiter. What am I to him, just talking about this one aspect.
I feel like I am some sort of mirror. I am trying to explain it and feel it. When he interacts with me, is he ABLE to see himself and his stressed,hard aspects through interacting with me. Am *I* his mirror?
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posted September 12, 2011 10:17 AM
Amy, What your intuition tells you? If you think you are a "mirror" you are correct.
Every so often I go against my intuation or I just do not take it seriously. But at the end of the day, my intuaition was/is right.
Generally speaking, girls have great intuition but we tend to ignore itUghhh.... I repeated "intuition" word too much  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 12, 2011 11:38 AM
Thank you,Sweetie Yes, my intuition tells me this BUT I am trying to gasp the Astrological reasoning, the concrete science of it. ------------------
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posted September 12, 2011 01:27 PM
This is BEYOND all else.Guess what is exactly conjunct his Jupiter----my name Asteroid.
I have never been so blown away before by Astrology.
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posted September 12, 2011 05:44 PM
I’ve been meaning to tell you this for some time now, and I’m saying it with great concern since I know how Cancers (sun, moon, asc ) are like. I do have a caring smile on my face: you’re doing it wrong.
This is just my opinion of course.You must learn very well the basics and apply them. Again, this is just how I do it. There are relationships which can be and are defined by a single, most powerful aspect (Moon-Asc comes to mind), but this may not the be case here. Mercury and Jupiter are neutral planets when it comes to intimate relationships. Back to the basics: how do the natals look? Who is this man, what does he need and where are the problems?
Then, you do the synastry. Try and see the puzzle as a whole. Don’t get stuck on one single aspect (I’ve seen far too many people here grasping at straws and since it’s confession time, asteroids annoy the hell out of me  ) Is there glue (Saturn)? Is there passion? Friction (squares)? How about understanding (easy aspects)… and so on.
How are the house – planets juxtaposed? (say your planets fall in his personal houses and his fall in more neutral houses, it’s an indication that the relationship is deeper for the person whose more intimate houses are activated). On to the composite, but only once a real relationship has developed. I think I prefer Davison, but it’s really a matter of what “feels” right. Don’t forget to compare the chart of the relationship with the natals. That’s about it. I realize that I didn’t respond to your initial question, but this is how I see it. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 12, 2011 05:50 PM
Maira, Darling
I was not thinking in terms of all that,at this point.I was just looking at this one amazing thing for what it was,in itself.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted September 12, 2011 11:51 PM
Hmm, how do YOU feel in this interaction with all his squares of pretty heavy energies to your Mercury, which also is the dispositor of your Sun?IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted September 12, 2011 11:55 PM
I think he's gonna take his Jupiter out on you and it's gonna play on the way you feel him conversing with you, what's your Merc in I forget, is it Gemini? So your Merc I guess is stressed by everything his Jup is right. He may present a charming front, some false promises and then fly away. But you could soooo be into that cos of your Gem orientation, your Scorp however may not be impressed."I feel like I am some sort of mirror"
---Merc might be able to give some added insight but if his Jup is in Gem already it's sort of redundant. Then it becomes just chatter. However he may be the one to shock and open you up a bit, leaving you a bit wide eyed. "When he interacts with me, is he ABLE to see himself and his stressed,hard aspects through interacting with me."
---I think he feels them anyway no matter who is around. It just inclines him to a chatty, rebellious, socially conscious sort of person. Maybe he's prone to get caught in the waves of changes that sweep the world in neg way like someone being caught as an internet predator or in a pos way like someone campaigning for peace. it's all in how they use the chart. But with Jup Gem aspecting Uranus/Saturn/Pluto I don't think he'd be very closed off from what is going on in the world on a large scale. If his Merc plugs into that somehow even by an inconj then I think the chance of that is v.strong. And when I say 'take his jup out on you' I mean you are gonna be up close and personal with the internal tension he faces regarding issues of authority and freedom and abuse of power. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted September 13, 2011 01:15 AM
Ami,I agree much with what Lonake and Maira said. But let me add one or two things. "mirror-aspects" really are dependent on the natals. So if your own jupiter is aspected by Mars, saturn, Uranus or Pluto, you actually might mirror him in this regard. Nevertheless Mercury can probably provide some insights into what is going on, if the guy doesn`t already know it himself, as Mercury is so analytical and communicative. In his natal this kind of tension seems to be more about social issues, unless it is also affecting personal planets, or involving the angle-rulers for example.
With your Mercury docking to that constellation you might "personalize" it, and at the same time probably become a focal point for all this stress. -as Lonake said "he takes his Jupiter out on you" and brings all these squares with him.
how you deal with it depends on how your own mercuy is placed and aspected and how you deal with your chart in general. AS beautiful as the jupiter-Mercury-conjunction looks (and it probably does open lines of communication - you might not just like what or how it is being communicated), you cannot judge it as an isolated aspect, because it is integrated in the whole chart. That is true for everything in a chart, you have to see the patterns.
But of course we have to start somewhere and understand what each combination is about. And often interpreting these isolated aspects gives surprisingly valid results; it usually fails though, whenever this isolated aspect is involved in a more challenging aspect-pattern, involving oppositions, squares, even inconjuncts, especially to outer planets, Mars or Saturn. They can be very overwhelming. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted September 13, 2011 01:25 AM
I remember a friend merc conj jup in synastry but I hated it cos his pluto was sq my Merc. I hate anyone's pluto squaring my merc lol. Did not work for me.
His Pluto's in Virgo which is pedantic and critical to the extreme so that may not vibe so well with your Gem Merc. I think I'd be more concerned with adverse Mars/Merc aspects, but that's just me. I have a low threshold for them.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted September 13, 2011 01:39 AM
Yes my Mercury does not like too much tension as well (though for some weird reason other`s Saturn is often squaring my Mercury- not that I really like it t hough. lol).Well, maybe he is so sensitive, becuase he is part of a duet with my Sun? (an unaspected conjunction). IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted September 13, 2011 01:49 AM
"not that I really like it t hough. lol"
---O I am often guilty of being the Saturn in this equation. Haha. Can I apologize on behalf of them?  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted September 13, 2011 03:03 AM
As long as your Saturn is not around 25 of the mutable signs, you are excused.
Seriously those Saturn-square-people often feel very karmic to me (their Saturn squares my Sun as well.)
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Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2011 04:19 AM
Thank you, Sweet Friends.I will study it all ,tomorrow.There are so many squares cuz he has a Pisces Stellium(5 in Pisces).As if that is not enough, he has Virgo hits,also.Most of these Pisces and Virgo degrees are EXACT squares and oppositions to my Gemini Mercury.
His Sun is an exact square to my unaspected Venus. How would that feel? lol My Mercury is being squared and opposed by practically everything.
Actually,I feel like my Mercury is a deer in the headlights; very,very strange.My Mercury feels as if flood lights are on it and it is stuck to the spot, mesmerized.
Why does it feels that way, not to be an idiot.
I can't think,actually. My mind feels as if it has gone away and I can't use it. He has a Cancer ASC which is my favorite. My moon trines his Sun.
Get this? OK
We both have unaspected Venus' and they don't touch each other. OK, what is your feeling lol ------------------
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posted September 13, 2011 04:33 AM
My first thought was: worlds apart, and maybe because of that very fascinating. Also Mercury tends to be curious, wanting to understand and even analyze what this is about. But in the long run I`d say that it might be too much stress put on it. If he has Virgo-Pisces oppositions which square your Mercury, chance is that your Mercury is on the midpoint of some of his planets.I`d like to know if you have mirroring natal aspects; something like you have Sun in Gemini, he has Sun or Moon aspecting Mercury.
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Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2011 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
My first thought was: worlds apart, and maybe because of that very fascinating. Also Mercury tends to be curious, wanting to understand and even analyze what this is about. But in the long run I`d say that it might be too much stress put on it. If he has Virgo-Pisces oppositions which square your Mercury, chance is that your Mercury is on the midpoint of some of his planets.I`d like to know if you have mirroring natal aspects; something like you have Sun in Gemini, he has Sun or Moon aspecting Mercury.
Ceri, I will come back and tell you some things.
The name thing blew me, away lol
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Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2011 09:12 AM
Yes,Lonake
He opens me up, totally.It is like my mind has been stun gunned and all I have is my gut.I feel sans mind.
I feel like I HAVE to really on my Scorpio and Cancer cuz my Gemini is frozen. Do you know what I mean? I have,always,used my mind to navigate life.With him, my mind seems frozen. Can you explain more why I feel this way,Ceri and Lonake?
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Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2011 09:22 AM
He has a weird chart.I am not gonna put it up,but he is like 2 different people.I have never seen a chart so polarized. I have not done that many charts, though.
I think you could use the saying"When he is good, he is very good.When he is bad, he is horrid" to describe the chart.On the "bad" side, there are LOTS of hard oppositions.He has a Pisces stellium including Chiron. The Sun is a little removed from the almost exact conjunct of Pisces Mars,mercury and Chiron, His Sun and Saturn are in the 8th. The other Pisces planets are in the 9th.He is,almost, all Southern Hemisphere,as I am.
He has a TON of hard oppositions to his Sun,Pluto and Uranus.
He has the Jupiter I mentioned, which squares the Uranus and Pluto. THEN, he has a beautiful quincunx which goes from the Jupiter in the 12th to Neptune in Scorpio in the 5th. He is very artistic. Then,he has SN in Scorpio in the 5th. You know, my poor Scorpio energy is like an old lady  His NN is in Taurus conjunct his moon. ------------------
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posted September 13, 2011 09:25 AM
This is the amazing thing.He has a whole other person in his chart,too.He has a beautiful moon with tons of trines and sextiles.It makes one opposition to Neptune in the 5th,but I do not call this a hard opposition, do you?
His Venus is almost unaspected.It makes a 8 degree trine to the moon.
He has a Taurus moon. He has Mars conj Mercury in Pisces.This is one of my favorite aspects as is Moon trine Venus. Anyway, my name asteroid was the weirdest part of all.
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posted September 13, 2011 09:34 AM
Oh, the Saturns are really good.We have trined Saturns.
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Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2011 09:43 AM
His Sun trines my moon,exact.
I will see what else and let you know.He has Pallas conjunct his Sun and Varuna conjunct his moon.
So that would make his Pallas conjunct my moon.He is a very wise person,actually.His Vesta conjuncts my Sun. The main thing I feel is that my mind is paralyzed,but it feels good.I feel like I am a blind person who is forced to rely on other senses, which feels really,really good to me. I am too cerebral.I have SN in Gem. I am not developed in the Scorpio, at all.
I never use the Scorpio unless I am forced to.
He has moon trine Pluto and SN in SCorpio in the 5th so he is comfortable there.
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posted September 13, 2011 11:48 AM
sounds like some serious learning process is going on for you. I hesitate to say anything though without seeing the whole charts; just feel uncomfortable with not being able to find the patterns. Also, sometimes even the most horrid synastries (or what others say are horrid synastries  doesn´t mean they are right) are kind of necessary for certain (karmic) processes / transformations. we do not change and grow and transform because everything is running smoothly. having said that, if the challenges get too big, we might run sooner or later (usually after we have given in to the mesmerizing fascination of all that sparkling energy and promises of transformation, and then after a while realize that living everydaylife on a vulcano or on a rollercoaster might not be very practicable; though people are different. Heck, some might even prefer living on a rollercoaster to staying on a constant level. ) IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 13, 2011 11:57 AM
Thank you Ceri
Yes,I have been a mind with no body,one could say.Now, my mind won't work so I am forced to develop that pesky Scorpio/Pluto I always complain about  ------------------
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posted September 13, 2011 12:15 PM
Well, I am doing his chart,now, so will have more info to add, as I do.
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posted September 13, 2011 03:11 PM
For anyone who is following this with me,my dear Ceri and Lonake .His unaspected Venus conjuncts my Chiron. I am so freaked by Chiron. The last Chiron relationship I had was the worst. My Nessus conjuncted her Chiron. What is bad with Chiron synastry is that you rarely part as friends lol It usually gets really,really close,fast, and then blows up.
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