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violet7887
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posted September 12, 2011 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Lonake
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posted September 12, 2011 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi V, I don't know anything about you really so this is gonna be a complete cold reading as I don't know how you're using your chart, so just keep that in mind.

The standouts to me are the yod with your Sun 8th, the Pluto in 1st scorp trining Cancer personal placements in the 9th, Neptune opp personal planets, so there's a strong water orientation behind the glib libra/gemini/venus h7 front. Maybe you use chit chat, charm, superficiality to cover up what's going on. Sun h8 can easily become misjudged and so can Pluto h1, both intensely sensitive placements then you add the Cancer stellium which is basically raw. I think you might have a better than avg memory with your Cancer stellium, with jup h3 ruler trine saturn. Neptune's sorta throwing a monkey wrench, with a habit that's not working in your favor, h12 ruler opp h6 ruler across the 3rd 9th axis so a lot of what you go through is all in your mind. Do you have a habit of not feeling heard, or having to work extra hard to get your point across, that others easily misunderstand you? I just noticed ruler of 6 in 3rd and ruler of 3rd in 6th so maybe you have some kind of speech disorder or something with the way your mind processes info which is not the same as most others. There is something that is diff whether you have some kind of disability or you are more advanced than others in that way I don't know but you have both correspondences. The ruler of 3rd isnt harsh to ruler of 6th so I'm not inclined to esp say that it's likely a disability. I dunno, it could be something like ADD. All this bit about misunderstandings doesn't help emotional stability leaving you perhaps not sure where you stand when you try to communicate your more higher minded ideals, heck you even have ruler of 9th in 9th. Ruler of 7th in 9th you want anyone you'd be partnered up with to go along with you in that vein as well. Merc is ruler of 12th so too much of that can backfire. The Cancer MC, with Moon in Cancer has an orientation to feel its way through life, the path is mapped out by what you're processing through the environment, the feelers that you're picking up on, conj Mars the sensitivity can be raw and prone to overreact, conj Merc it projects all you're feeling in a vocal way so it's gonna be hard to keep quiet, in the 9th so expressed as your ideologies, if you have a faith you may feel it strongly as a shelter from the storm you experience with that tendency to absorb neg bs from the environment. Uranus h3 adds to this, so does Gem Sun, Moon h9, they're vocal tendendies. Sun h8/Pluto 1st/neptune 3rd contraindicates this. So it's a feeling I guess of bring torn between these 2 impulses. Gemini Sun is prob one of the strongest of these impulses and its disposited by Cancer Moon, everything else is too except Taurus Venus and Pluto Scorp which are basically entities unto themselves.
I found it sorta interesting the SN is in 12th so that is the orientation you came here with and in Libra feeling unable to act alone, like you always needed someone by your side to feel comfy to venture out. NN is in Aries....the Moon opp Neptune is really a big stand out here since it's sq the nodal axis. So the more you go along with it the farther it's gonna take you away from what you need to be learning here. So you're really standing in your own way there. Don't worry anyway I have planets sq my nodal axis too. You of course cannot get away from doing your Moon just don't overdo it. You're still a spiritual in tune sensitive sort of person, acting on your own, paying attn to practical realities, the fact that other people need a certain degree of logical reasoning to take serious what you say, is not gonna take you away from that. It may be a necessary evil to interact with the world in a more positive way but it's not gonna change who you are. But I will say Uranus h3 can be a bit stubborn, haha. So it's your choice.
And also with Neptune h3 obviously if you're fibbing about things you know it's gonna backfire eventually and will never give you the security you crave. I don't know if it's you deceiving others or yourself, if that is the case, but it doesn't help much in the long run when your feeling are at stake. If you're an intuitive sort of person just stay with it, if you pick up e.s.p. things, just try to protect yourself, psychic protection, if it's throwing your mind off if it interferes with day to day living. That's all I got for now.

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violet7887
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posted September 13, 2011 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so there's a strong water orientation behind the glib libra/gemini/venus h7 front. Maybe you use chit chat, charm, superficiality to cover up what's going on. yes this is often my dilemma with finding people I feel truly close to. Though I am individually a solitary person I only have a few close friends who are all very social. Most of the time, I can be put into very social situations because of the people im with and I “seem” to fit in very well because I am very good at charming others through that Gemini/libra . Most people admire that about me but the truth is very rarely does anyone understand the intensity within me . Whats beaneath , the deeper, intense, emotional and very intuitive part of me is the real me. I secretly crave for someone to be intune with that side of me.

I think you might have a better than avg memory with your Cancer stellium Yes, I have very good memory, I can recreate emotions I was feeling with any given memory or encounter and remember minor details very exactly. This is a good addition to my very sound judgment in accessing others motives.

Neptune's sorta throwing a monkey wrench, with a habit that's not working in your favor, h12 ruler opp h6 ruler across the 3rd 9th axis so a lot of what you go through is all in your mind do you mean I look into things to hard and maybe create something that isn’t really there?

Do you have a habit of not feeling heard, or having to work extra hard to get your point across, that others easily misunderstand you?I often find myself explaining things to others, Yes. But it is usually to give others a different viewpoint on something to help them out. Something I cannot stand is seeing some sort of misunderstanding stand in somebody’s way. And I can be very diligent in making sure that that somebody is helped and supported rather than letting it go and saying “it’s their problem”. This is what I often can help them through tough, when it comes to me , yes I have time and time again come to realize that it is hard for people to understand my concerns to the point in which I’d like them to.

maybe you have some kind of speech disorder or something with the way your mind processes info which is not the same as most others.I have no idea how this is suppose to play out but If there is one thing I am good at, it is listening, understanding and communicating. My intuition + communication are first nature to me. So contrary to this I can actually be a very presentable speaker, but only when I need to be. I usually choose to listen until I need to speak.

All this bit about misunderstandings doesn't help emotional stability leaving you perhaps not sure where you stand when you try to communicate your more higher minded ideals Yes, there are times when I can be at total emotional lows because of this. It is usually the result of somebody very close to me disappointing me in some way that does not agree with some of my “higher ideals.” They will not understand what I am upset about. I was with someone for 8 years last year. He is a wonderful person but over the years I realized we were unhappy because we had been fighting about the same thing but just with different situations for years. Every time we fought about anything it resulted in my asking him “Don’t you trust me? If you love me and care for me then whyyy?” I often find it very hard to dael with people who are not as open and trusting as I am. He has been my best friend for 8 years and I love him and always will but there is some sort of a wall between us. The last year and a half has been about the worst time of my life so far. So many out of the blue things have happened that have led to things getting more complicated.

The Cancer MC, with Moon in Cancer has an orientation to feel its way through life, the path is mapped out by what you're processing through the environment, the feelers that you're picking up on, conj Mars the sensitivity can be raw and prone to overreact, conj Merc it projects all you're feeling in a vocal way so it's gonna be hard to keep quiet, in the 9th so expressed as your ideologies, if you have a faith you may feel it strongly as a shelter from the storm you experience with that tendency to absorb neg bs from the environment. All this is very much makes sense. I do feel my way through everything I do. All my emotions are expressed as ideologies and those in turn lead me to have faith in things which are attached to my emotions very strongly.

I found it sorta interesting the SN is in 12th so that is the orientation you came here with and in Libra feeling unable to act alone, like you always needed someone by your side to feel comfy to venture out If you could explain this further, what SN in 12th means. But you are right about me needing someone by my side to feel comfy. This I strange to stay but I’ve always felt empty, ever since I can remember. I’ve never felt like a completed whole. I have this feeling that something is missing within me. I always have this feeling. Like I’m on quest to find somebody that understands me. I love so many people and and am close to so many but none of them fill that void. I have a deep yearning for something and some how I know I am looking to find something. I remember feeling this more strongly as a child. Don’t know why this has always been a constant feeling within me. One of my biggest fears is that I will never find what im looking for and have this empty feeling for ever.

You're still a spiritual in tune sensitive sort of person, acting on your own, paying attn to practical realities, the fact that other people need a certain degree of logical reasoning to take serious what you say, is not gonna take you away from that. It may be a necessary evil to interact with the world in a more positive way but it's not gonna change who you are. my spirit is what leads me, I have come to learn the hard way that trying to abandon it to change for more logical reasons never resulted in any good for me.

I don't know if it's you deceiving others or yourself, if that is the case, but it doesn't help much in the long run when your feeling are at stake hahaha I am definitely deceiving myself, that is how I get into all my problems. My emotional side sometimes refuses to encourage what my logical side is seeing so that my emotional side can “feel its way through” the situation properly.

If you're an intuitive sort of person just stay with it, if you pick up e.s.p. things, just try to protect yourself, psychic protection, if it's throwing your mind off if it interferes with day to day living what do you mean by psychic protection?

L this was exceptionally great, especially for not knowing me at all. You are verry Good

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posted September 13, 2011 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SN 12th is past orientation on cocooning inside yourself, seeking answers from within, mediumistic tendencies.

"trying to abandon it to change for more logical reasons never resulted in any good for me."
---It looks like the crossed wires are within.

"what do you mean by psychic protection?"
--- http://www.judyhall.co.uk/protection.htm

"L this was exceptionally great, especially for not knowing me at all. You are verry Good"
---Yw. It was more than I got when I recently paid someone $100 to look at my chart. It would ruin rep if I said who lol. I've spent I think $450 total so far in trying to find a decent astrologer and zilch. I must have a really complicated chart.

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violet7887
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posted September 14, 2011 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
awww poor you! I hope you find someone soon
But you, in my opinion are very good with this. You pick up on the right things. As i've told you before I always find your replies insightful. I appriciate your time and effort put into my chart

If i could ask further, I would like to know one other thing.

what in your opinion does my chart tell you about my my love life How do i give love and how will i recieve love, if any.

Thanks

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posted September 14, 2011 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love given and received is the 5th/11th axis. That is a bit different than intimate love life and all its complexities, it's based more on initial excitement and friends/associations, the thing that sparks interest, what you give out and expect to receive in a general way. Personal love life, what you desire what gets you turned on, the type of mate you'd like, is more a mix of sun/mars/venus/h7/h5 and its rulers, etc. Dynamics of relationships, crazy patterns that people get into are more the actual aspects that sun/mars/moon/venus/planets in h7/h7 ruler make. So I could go a few diff ways with this?

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violet7887
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posted September 15, 2011 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well lets start of with 5/11th since i seem to have nothing happening in those areas. What do these houses mean for giving and receiving love for me? and ultimatley, what accoring to the chart do i look for in intimacy? what do I attract? Also, i've always wondered what my venus trine neptune means.Somehow i get a hunch its where my dillusional dreamland tendancy comes from It doesnt take me much to be spaced out into "pure imagination"(gotta love that song)

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