posted September 17, 2011 02:45 AM            

These are Vic Dicara's personal opinions on life
http://www.vicdicara.com/articles.php

posted September 17, 2011 04:37 AM            

I agree though, there are some really good ones out there; still it is not a good idea to follow blindly anything they say. Personally I like to keep my own mind switched on, even if I read something of the "authorities" in a certain area.

For me some sign of a good astrologer is consistency btw. If I see them repeatedly break their own rules of chartreading with no other explanation than fitting the charts to what they want to demonstrate and changing symbolism without a clear deduction as to their reasons, they can bear the most famous names in astrological circles, I will not care.

Having said that, that is a reason I like Luc de Jaeger so much. He is consistent and precise (though sometimes a bit technical - but I guess that is a matter of taste, and actually my Aqua Moon vibes with it).

EDIT:
I`ve been in the "astrological world" for 22 years now, and of course have been reading hundreds of books, articles and listened and talked to astrologers - and at some point it just became clear to me that sometimes "paper is patient", and yet at other times the wisdom that stared out of these pages was outstanding, usually in its natural simplicity.

posted September 17, 2011 05:48 AM            

After reading what he had to say i kind of respected him a little less lol. Really? The universe is mother earth and karma is her way of "spanking" us? Lolol.

I have to say, i agree a lot more with what luc de jaeger's theories about how the world works. But other than this nonsense Dicara has written here, i do agree with all of what he says in yahoo answers. If you notice from the quality of the answers between Luc and Vic, you'll see that Luc's answers are so much more detailed in that he actually takes the time to help most people with their questions by giving them free readings, whereas Vic explains things to novices but doesnt give free readings. I think that the astrologer who likes to help people for fun and gives them the reading is the one who is the most knowledgeable and confident in his knowledge, because it shows he not only really cares about helping people with their problems, but he's risking that the person will say right there and then on yahoo answers "no, that isn't true at all". And Luc's answers are usually pretty detailed.

I notice most of their answers are pretty consistent though. They both mention that saturn isn't too important in synastry and that it mostly is a negative influence even if it's a positive aspect, and they both insist on looking at house placements, sometimes wven more than planetary placements for some reason. But Luc focuses on harmonics while Vic seems more wishy washy in that he focuses on theoretical ideas that havent been proven through research (like something about there being 9 invisible steps in the universe?)

and well then there's the obvious difference ... Luc is western astrology and Vic is vedic.

posted September 17, 2011 06:00 AM            

"They both mention that saturn isn't too important in synastry and that it mostly is a negative influence even if it's a positive aspect,"
That is something I have to disagree with strongly.
In nearly every chartcomparision I made Saturn was pivotal, and not necessarily in a bad way.
it depends how you generally deal with boundaries and responsibilities though, and that brings you back to your own natal pattern.
In my observation and experience it is important to see your own natal to come to a conclusion about synastry or composite. They are kind of "working together".

"and they both insist on looking at house placements, sometimes wven more than planetary placements for some reason."
The reason is that the houseplacements are more individual. The ASC changes all 2 hours, which means that someone born on the same day as you will have the planets in the same signs, but not in the same houses, and the rulerships will be totally different. (unless they have been born at the same time of day than you were).

posted September 17, 2011 07:18 AM            

with Saturn it really depends.
it can be restrictive and stifling, yes, I agree.
But it also can be very supportive, though ina more practical way.

People have different needs. my best friend for example, has a strong aversion against passion, because it is too "unpredictable" and one cannot rely on anything but that it either blows iny our face or fades away.
She prefers a relationship that others would find "boring", for her this sort of contentment, is very fulfilling and satisfying and calming, even though it is not the height of passion, which others may strive for.

She has Cappy ASC with Saturn being part of a Kite, trine to Moon, sextile Mercury, Venus, Mars, Pluto and trine Neptune.
She finds Saturn soothing. lol

Of course she married a man who has Sun and ASC in Capricorn with Saturn in 7th house.

and they have several Saturn-aspects including a Saturn-Moon-opposition.

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my parents are another example:
my Dad has Saturn on the ASC and ASC-ruler in Capricorn.
My Mum has Cappy-DESC and Saturn in 5th house.

They share quite a bit of Saturn-aspects, too. Including a DW of Mars-Saturn-conjunction, a Venus-Saturn-conjunction and a Saturn-SN-conjunction.
But it is what they need, and they have capacities for joy and relaxation elsewhere (her Sun oopposes his Moon,a nd her venus and Mars conjunct hsi ASC for example).

posted September 17, 2011 08:31 AM            

Saturn-aspects do not enhance the emotional quality / affection two people share. There HAVE to other aspects that indicate that, especially positive ones to Moon, Venus or Jupiter. That is even more important, if the Saturn aspects are challenging.

Personally I even need (challenging) aspects of Saturn to Sun or Moon (my best friend and me have a square and opposition between Saturn and Moon; we are still best friends after over 20 years, through it all, puberty, schoolexam, university, ending up in different cities for the teacher in training years, her marriage and motherhood, at times being in very different social circles etc. I definitely think, instead of stifling the life out of us, the Saturn aspects help our friendship to endure. Of course the tone of it is rather on the serious side. lol)

Run Around Screaming,
in that interaction that feels so cold and technical, in what aspect figures is Saturn involved?
Also, what are the Sun/Moon, Sun/Venus, Sun/Jupiter, Sun/Neptune, Moon/Venus, Moon/Jupiter, Moon/Neptune and Venus/Jupiter, Venus/Neptune, ASC/Moon, ASC/Venus, ASC/Jupiter aspects?

posted September 17, 2011 01:57 PM            

do I want to know what he wrote?

posted September 17, 2011 02:40 PM            

I'm not sure i like saturn very much at all. Lol.