posted September 19, 2011 10:14 PM            

I have a lot of trines in my chart (including a Grand Fire Trine and a Grand Earth Trine). Fortunately I have a lot of squares and sextiles too. From experience with my own chart, I love the feeling of simplicity. Especially when complex ideas or situations are involved, I get a bit frustrated when they don't fall into place easily, it's a real buzz-kill.

Early on, I had to learn that effort-required does not mean you are on the wrong path. To this day I have to remind my self that the results of effort are equally as enjoyable as the thrill of things falling into place.

I wouldn't call a trine overload "lazy", as much as "unaccustomed to life requiring struggle". When struggle arises, my trines go into crisis mode. My sextiles and squares then gently move my screaming trines into the corner and go to work.

Eventually my trines get over it and start feeling left out. By the time the crisis is over, enough work has generally been done by the squares and sextiles for the trine to get involved. At that point the trines just stand up and place their hands on the working aspect's shoulders. The squares and sextiles kinda chuckle to each other and step back from the project. Trines then step up to the problem, scan every molecule of the issue, reach out, and pull one tiny atom out of the equation. The problem shifts, all the structures fall down, and the entire mess slides into a perfect harmonious solution.

Tadaa Trines feel happy again.

Trine energy is an energy of "everything just happens, because it makes sense". It's an energy similar to Gemini, flowing, youthful, multi-perspective, inquisitive, and familiar. If trines get trapped by a situation which stunts their path, communication, access to information, or requires dull or mature action, they feel groundless and isolated from familiar territory. The key to helping trine overload mature a bit for me, was learning about how my mind works and setting up systems where my trines could feel responsible and challenged without feeling blocked or overburdened. If I see intense effort ahead, my trines automatically begin to bargain me away from participating in whatever the problem is. That is a red flag for me to gently put the trines away and focus on my more effort-loving side.

posted September 19, 2011 10:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Hi Smiling,

"When struggle arises, my trines go into crisis mode. My sextiles and squares then gently move my screaming trines into the corner and go to work."

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Cool Analysis!

posted September 19, 2011 10:45 PM            

That's like saying that someone with a chart full of squares has too many roadblocks up against them and personal issues and that they'll never get anywhere in life or be happy or have anything, because they have a 'bad' chart and the cards are stacked against them.

I hate astrological stereotypes.

I think that no matter what aspects dominate a chart, it's still ultimately up to that person how their life goes. I think a person with a chart that's all trines can be just as successful if they choose to be and make a conscious decision to get up and work towards something.

posted September 19, 2011 11:31 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
They aren't doomed, no. It's what their soul chose to live as before they were born.

My boyfriend has zero hard aspects.. he is a nice person. Very easy life. But he has big dreams, little courage to pursue at the moment. Pluto is going over his Cap Ascendant conjunct Neptune as we speak, pluto is doing a number on him through me and our relationship. Asc/Dsc is how we present ourselves and how people see us. When we first met, he was much shyer than he is now that it's 10 months later. he is more confident as a man and his ability to get valuable women. he is transforming the way he aims at life and his desires. I didn't have an easy life; it was full of trials but I passed all tests and i am a very strong person for it. Not everyone is going to have the same tests. Take what is given to you, face your karma, release it, and be free. You are never given anything you cannot handle.

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Honestly, that's still reading to me as just a kindler, gentler way of saying trine-heavy people are losers...but that they 'chose' to incarnate that way, or that this is their karma.

Okay, if you want to look at it that way - let's try the flip side of that - maybe people with hard charts got them because of bad karma and they're being punished in this life for what they did in the last, so they're being forced to struggle, scrape and suffer in order to get anything done. Or, they chose to suffer in this life.

...Not really a pretty thought, right?

posted September 20, 2011 12:25 AM            

You are at the end because all accumulated karma must be dealt with and not every human being has the capacity to wake up, come to terms with their misfortune and say I'm going to survive and this is nothing. Most people in this world who never have to struggle might have different outcomes because I guarantee you nobody comes here without a mission.

posted September 20, 2011 12:44 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Actually.. I see it as a gift to have a difficult life because it means you are at the end of reincarnating. That is the ultimate goal.

You are at the end because all accumulated karma must be dealt with and not every human being has the capacity to wake up, come to terms with their misfortune and say I'm going to survive and this is nothing. Most people in this world who never have to struggle might have different outcomes because I guarantee you nobody comes here without a mission.

To wake up to that mission when you have a life full of discord it's a very amazing thing and takes a very fine person to rise above any circumstances that were imposed.

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...I don't buy that.

There's plenty of people who can remember having really bad things happen to them in their past lives, who obviously incarnated again. So having a harsh life isn't a guarantee that you're on your last one.

You're very eloquent and your wording is really pretty but at the end of the day this still just reads as a long-winded, polite way of saying that anyone with a so-called 'easy' chart isn't as spiritually advanced as those with harder charts and that they're being punished or something, that they're doomed, this is just their karma and they need to just accept it and deal with it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not coming after you personally, I've just always, always hated that theory and found it incredibly judgmental and asinine and feel like it originated primarily out of an ego-driven desire to be more 'special' or somehow 'better' than the next person.

posted September 20, 2011 02:21 AM            

I am not saying those with lots of trines are weak or deficient in any way ... it might be that they are just taking a breather between harsh incarnations because they need an earth life relax and reap the rewards of previous growth because that is what their soul needs right now.

posted September 20, 2011 02:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Taineberry:
I believe that people who have incarnated with more challenging charts have the potential to grow much more than those with less challenging charts.

I am not saying those with lots of trines are weak or deficient in any way ... it might be that they are just taking a breather between harsh incarnations because they need an earth life relax and coast along fairly superfically because that is what their soul needs right now.

Both easy and challenging charts have their up and their down-sides. In both cases, the "success" of the individual's life depends on the state of development of their ego. "Hard chart' people take a particularly big risk because if they do take the low road (ego-wise) in the face of their many challenges, they are likely to wreak mayhem in the world due to the strongly combative emotional forces than run in their psyche. BUT ...The "easy chart" people are also at risk if they allow themselves to be ego-driven - they may become vain and complacent which, at the very least, is just plain annoying to others ... but at its worst vanity and lack of introspection can also be dangerous when ego runs rampant and turns into egomania or meglomania coupled with little or no opposition to keep it in check.

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My mother had a damned hard life in a lot of ways. She was always poor, as a child and all the way through her adult years, and never had the chance to really go to school and get a further education in order to improve her situation, which was unfortunate because she was extremely, extremely intelligent and talented and had so much potential she never got to really use.

This is a woman who spent her entire working life working her ass off at the shittiest jobs imaginable - I remember as a kid her coming home from cleaning hotel rooms - and worked two jobs in her fifties, one of which was on her feet all day as a cashier at Wal-Mart. A woman who had to break down and apply for government assistance when we were kids because those ****** jobs didn't pay enough for her to keep us clothed and fed. A woman who was laid off from her job a couple years ago and then lost her health insurance and had to apply for government health assistance. While she was on that waiting list, she couldn't get the meds she needed and keeled over on her bed days after my birthday, and died in the hospital two days later of six - SIX - brain aneurysms. Do you know how my mother spent the last weeks of her life? In a panic, on the verge of eviction because the government suddenly decided to end unemployment benefits after she was laid off from her job.

posted September 20, 2011 07:34 AM            

Qurote from www.astrodynamics.net : "Trines are "harmonious" aspects, meaning the energies of the planets interact in a harmonious manner. However, because there is no tension, the planetary energies that form the grand trine often get locked in an endless loop without the energy to break free and move forward. Often people with grand trines in their chart lack the drive (or - in the previous example - the opportunity) to create change in their lives."

posted September 21, 2011 07:49 PM            

I get so tired of people saying that anyone who has a grand trine has it easy. I'm like: "Clearly you've never been in my shoes. CLEARLY." I have a good mix of both hard and soft aspects, but I darn well wouldn't call any of them 'easy.'

Personally, I tend to think that grand trines=being more at ease with your own personality. To others, this might translate as being egotistical or lazy, depending on how you view it. For some reason, everyone thinks that living a hard life=being harsh/having an edge/being a fighter > easy life=being chill/accepting things as they are/enjoying the experience instead of competing. In my mind, both mindsets are necessary, and neither one is 'bad.'

As for the ego thing- Some people with big egos are selfish competitive manipulative jerks. Some people with big egos are lazy and self-centered. Either way, it's still the same thing just expressed differently. And truthfully- there is a need for these big ego-ed people somewhere in the world. They still fulfill a purpose, do they not? (Don't get me wrong though... They still annoy the crap out of me too. I just try not to think that it makes me 'better' than them that I am different than them).

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So id there any way to work with the trines? Do planets in trine with another planet but also squaring another one have a push and pull effect?

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posted September 21, 2011 09:37 PM            

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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
Okay, thank you all for taking the time to answer this.
I am a bit confused over the "trines make ones life easy" thing.
I though they were just a flow of easy energy between two planets which results in having a fairly accesible, nice personality (that as some say lacks edge).
I am interested in this theorie because I am a heavy trine person myself and I'm trying to get into a profession that is all about competing and being better and edgier than your 'competitors'.
So id there any way to work with the trines? Do planets in trine with another planet but also squaring another one have a push and pull effect?

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The key to finding the edgy side of my trines, usually has a lot to do with the element they share.

Fire trines can provide access to spirit, energy, bravery, charisma, foresight, and leadership.

Earth trines can provide access to intuition, stability, grounding, pattern/trend recognition, rationality, and utility.

Air trines can provide access to ingenuity, communication, imagination, charm, relationship, and flexibility of perspective.

Water trines can provide access to understanding, nurturing, depth, vision, empathy, and situation manipulation.

posted September 21, 2011 10:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Taineberry:
"Trines are "harmonious" aspects, meaning the energies of the planets interact in a harmonious manner. However, because there is no tension, the planetary energies that form the grand trine often get locked in an endless loop without the energy to break free and move forward. Often people with grand trines in their chart lack the drive (or - in the previous example - the opportunity) to create change in their lives."

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"I am interested in this theorie because I am a heavy trine person myself and I'm trying to get into a profession that is all about competing and being better and edgier than your 'competitors'."
---You don't need conj or squares or oppositions to be edgy. Competition is more Mars/Aries, edgy or innovative is more Uranus/Aquarius, cardinal and fire energy is good for getting the ball rolling and staying sharp.
I like competition sometimes, I have Aries MC and its ruler Mars is conj Saturn/Pluto in Libra (cardinal). I actually have a cardinal heavy chart. But then again I have a ton of squares.

posted September 22, 2011 02:16 AM            

my grandparents had grand trines in water and again they had to work hard too so it is not a life of ease.

another grandparent a double aries has just passed away and she had no grand trines and appeared to have a life of ease- she was extremely selfish, cold and domineering and I am glad she has gone. All her children have strived to get away from the values and childhood she gave them, that is why I am extremely biased towards anyone with more than one planet in aries.

posted November 07, 2015 03:45 AM            

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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
Does anyone know or has experienced how trines work and how much of a blessing/curse they can be?

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Trines don't generate energies like squares or oppositions. They channel existing energy. It's like the windmill metaphor, if there is no wind, the windmill does not produce anything.

This is a question often asked in forums. IMHO, it is not the number of trines in a chart that matters, but how their items are connected to other aspects. Say you have a trine in synastry with a partner and that partner's item is Saturn. Say Saturn is also in square with other items. These squares generate an excessive amount of energy searching for an outlet. Trines are perfect dissipators easing the permanent tension, drama and stress of squares.

posted November 07, 2015 05:40 AM            

My husband is an Aries Sun, Mercury 1H and Taurus Moon 2H. We have explosive Ego fights every now and then but all in all we are mature about the different ways we try to infuse new learning and viewpoints in eachother.

God also gave me a stubborn, investigative streak so I tend to be amused and egged on by people that are different.

posted November 09, 2015 07:53 AM            

I can't build bank, because I have no money.
I can't be succesfull because I have too many trines.
I can't find friends because I'm not social.
I can't create business because I'm not ambitious and daring.
I can't find a lover because I'm too possesive and jealous.
I can't finish my engineering studies because I'm not 'that' creative.
I cannot express myself in front of public.

And the story goes on AND ON AND ON.
Always trying to find REASON why YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING. Why not instead put ALL THIS EFFORT ALL THIS THINKING ALL THIS ENERGY AND START HAVING FAITH IN YOURSELF ? Find as MANY reasons why you CAN DO THIS.

Why not instead focus on GOOD things, GOOD abilities you have AND TRY TO learn and get better with the ONES you struggle ?

Why waste life on negative qualities, burying yourself and others in this room of perpetual disbelief.