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fairaqua Knowflake Posts: 120 From: Registered: Feb 2011	posted September 20, 2011 01:46 PM I was wondering if you could see empathy in someones chart? What do you look for? IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 20604 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted September 20, 2011 02:00 PM Water IP: Logged
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 633 From: Registered: Jul 2011	posted September 20, 2011 02:07 PM Neptune IP: Logged
MertSerimer Knowflake Posts: 643 From: where the fun is Registered: Mar 2011	posted September 20, 2011 03:37 PM quote: Originally posted by fairaqua: I was wondering if you could see empathy in someones chart? What do you look for? -Moon/Neptune Aspects -Lots of Water traits(Especially pisces) -Neptune in 7th or 11th -Maybe moon/ascendant aspects(conjunction maybe?) -Also heavy and strong Pluto and MARS/Saturn avoids empathy so it must be lack of it. IP: Logged
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 586 From: Registered: Nov 2009	posted September 20, 2011 06:20 PM I'm very very empathetic. In fact that's one of the things every psychic always picks up on me. Like I can pretty much sense people's emotions and need my alone time (to charge my batteries) cos I get drained of energy when around alot of ppl for a long period of time. I only have a water jupiter and pluto. Moon square neptune Sun trine neptune (1 degree) Moon square chiron (3ish degrees) Moon conjunct venus (2 degree) I have north node in my 12th house? I dunno, might be more aspects. Those are the ones I can think of. I had an ex with heavy water. And he WAS NOT empathetic at all! IP: Logged
BelligerentPygmy Knowflake Posts: 264 From: Registered: Sep 2011	posted September 20, 2011 07:07 PM quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Neptune This. I have Neptune in the 11th aspecting my sun (trine), moon (sextile) and venus (square), Mars in Cancer and I'm pretty empathetic. At the same time - there's some truth to what Mert Serimer said about Pluto and Mars/Saturn. I have those too and, if I'm pushed to that point, I can be the exact OPPOSITE. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 20604 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted September 20, 2011 07:16 PM quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Neptune Interesting, Ceri ------------------ Do You Think This Psychic Is Cute? http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 301 From: Registered: May 2009	posted September 20, 2011 07:19 PM Hmm... I've known people with a lot of water who aren't terribly empathic (and are, in fact, downright cruel to others). And on the flipside of that, I've known a lot of people without water who are still very empathic. I think everyone says 'water' as the default generalization. I would say Moon aspects though would definitely figure in. I'm not as sure about Neptune. Haven't looked that closely at it. IP: Logged
Stawr Moderator Posts: 964 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010	posted September 21, 2011 12:14 AM That's interesting that you say Neptune Ceridwen. I have Neptune in Capricorn (house 8). I can have empathy for people's baggage, tramma, and drama. Because those things either make or break people...baggage, trama, and drama can be a blockage to people's goals, dreams, well being and sanity. I've had plenty(well depends who you compare me to) of things make and break me...and sometimes people need to break down...expirence the worst...and then realize...the worst is over, I can be stonger and move on now. Call me a Scrooge, gut I do get annoyed the way some people act down their luck...Like when people ask strangers to give them money on the street.(that is not the way I want to help people...need I say more?) Or when people always ask for money from people they know...(It makes me want to say...are you even trying!?) I only want to help out people if I know that they are doing the best they can. One time a friend of mine was sooo stressed about her bills...back when we worked together, and since we are part time we don't get paid for breaks...so that threw her off her money groove. So since I gave her a ride home...I have her some cans in my trunk, that she could take back so she could have like bus money. And the kids at latchkey when they do fund raisers...I always buy something from one of the kids...Because I was in their shoes once...and I know how exiting fundraisers are...and want to help them reach their goal of getting the prize they want...or trip they want to go on. I'm sure I'm not the most empathetic person there is, but I have a heart. IP: Logged
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 1642 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010	posted September 21, 2011 12:55 AM quote: What do you look for? Neptune conjunctions with personal planets! IP: Logged
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 633 From: Registered: Jul 2011	posted September 21, 2011 01:29 AM I thought Neptune was an obvious one. Anyway, regarding the water-discussion. Water is very sensitive, though sometimes this sensitivity can "switch" and be focused on oneself rather than the world around. Those might be the people who are ultrasensitive when it comes to themselves, but not so much when it comes to others. Actually I think empathy also demands the ability to take a step back, be detached from oneself, to be able to focus on the other. If I am busy all the time licking my wounds or going into MY feelings, this will make it harder to be emathic to others. On the other hand, if I am sensitive inside and at the same time able to not jsut circle around my own feelings but acknowledge other`s as well, this might lead to empathy, because I am able to revoke the feelings I felt myself and recognize them in someone else. In a way the borders between people dissolve a bit: I feel the other`s pain/ joy whatever as if it was mine (because of the capacity to see myself and the other simultaneously), and that is why I was referring to Neptune, as he tends to dissolve any kind of barriers between souls. IP: Logged
frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 186 From: yep,ks,usa Registered: Apr 2011	posted September 21, 2011 02:51 AM i am very empathetic...so much so that when people describe their injuries to me i can actually feel discomfort and sometimes pain in those same areas in my own body. it freaks me out. scorpio asc, pluto conjunct asc. scorpio venus, pisces mars conjunct pisces jupiter, neptune conjunct sun & mercury. IP: Logged
DayandNight21 Knowflake Posts: 321 From: Registered: May 2010	posted September 21, 2011 03:00 AM i would say water -cancer and pisces scorpio can be compassionate but does not possess empathy in my experience with numerous ones. also pisces needs to be in their positive vibration to bring out its best as does neptune, otherwise you could get the other side which is deceptive, illusory etc. Also there is compassion which is close to empathy and which other signs possess eg mercury in leo is said to be compassionate. progressions also count one ex was nearly all water but by progression was mostly fire with only a little water so the lack of other elements played a part in the lack of empathy. For me a well rounded person has a balance of elements. IP: Logged
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 2418 From: Registered: Aug 2009	posted September 21, 2011 07:08 AM I say moon. If people not have enough connection to their feelings they never will understand. IP: Logged
sand Knowflake Posts: 1331 From: Registered: May 2011	posted September 21, 2011 09:05 AM scorpio can be compassionate but does not possess empathy in my experience with numerous ones. i'd say this is true for me. i'm water dominant but not cancer/ pisces. mine are all scorpio. i'm on the icy side of things. IP: Logged
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 328 From: Registered: Jun 2011	posted September 21, 2011 09:05 AM I agree with Moon and Neptune. Perhaps Chiron contacts with these two should also be considered include the understanding and sensitivity which accompanies empathy? IP: Logged
Stawr Moderator Posts: 964 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010	posted September 21, 2011 10:48 AM Here are my aspects Sun(Aries11) Square Neptune Moon(Scorpio6) Sextile Neptune Mercury(Taurus12) Trine Neptune Uranus(Capricorn8) Conjunction Neptune Neptune Sextile Pluto(Scorpio6) Neptune Quincunx Ascendant(Gemini) IP: Logged
enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 301 From: Registered: May 2009	posted September 21, 2011 07:55 PM quote: I agree with Moon and Neptune. Perhaps Chiron contacts with these two should also be considered include the understanding and sensitivity which accompanies empathy? I would agree with that Taineberry. I think Chiron contacts help because generally they emphasize an area that you yourself have been wounded in, so you seek out that wound in others. It can make you more empathic for sure. IP: Logged
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 290 From: won't_disclose Registered: Sep 2011	posted September 22, 2011 04:55 AM Empathy is my middle name. LOL No, really! I agree with the Neptune theory especially a well aspected Neptune. Mine is 10th house conj MC opp Venus and Moon. I also have a Pisces NN opposite my supercritical Virgo Pluto+SN, so although criticism comes easy to me when it comes to rationalizations, I'm empathic to the point of fault (i.e. at my expense as I "forget" about me and my own boundaries) when it comes to others. Also I found that I have a soft spot for the downtrodden (anything from people to animals to anyone/anything who/that suffers) due to my Jup in Libra seeking fairness and wanting to rally for them. My empathy makes people take me for granted and I always feel neglected by others because not many can offer me the empathy I offer (with no effort at all). My Nept is in Scorpio too and I have a full 8th house... IP: Logged
pisces moon Knowflake Posts: 106 From: Registered: Aug 2010	posted September 22, 2011 08:09 PM I'm empathetic to a high degree. I channel it into my creative writing, otherwise I would be a mess. I have moon in Pisces in the 12th house. Neptune in Scorpio in the 7th house. They trine. Other neptune aspects square mars. sextile uranus, midheaven and pluto Moon aspects oppose mercury, venus, uranus and pluto IP: Logged
Lonake Moderator Posts: 5465 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009	posted September 23, 2011 08:03 PM Prob anything that would allow you to tune in to the reality of others, put yourself in their shoes. Maybe even the same as factors that point to psychic abilities. But then there are diff definitions. Virgo can be empathic too, so can Aquarius. Saturn or Chiron in Pisces can feel others suffering as almost too close for comfort. And Scorpio can definitely be able to tune into others and help them through their experience. IP: Logged
Virgo vixen Newflake Posts: 2 From: Registered: Sep 2011	posted September 30, 2011 07:18 PM I'm Virgo with Pisces moon and i definitely feel more empathetic now that i'm older than i was when I was young. I think when I was young I cared about poverty, starvation, the homeless, animal cruelty, and still do, but I wasn't really in touch with my "Pisces" side til I'd lived a bit and been through a lot of pain etc. Nowadays I feel more like a Pisces inside than a Virgo as I feel more empathetic and sensitive towards feelings too, not just causes or obvious sufferings. I think it's because of what I've been through so it makes me not want to see others suffer the same thoughts and emotions I had. Does this make sense to anyone? IP: Logged

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