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Topic: Pluto; Is it the end of our world?
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laurenbabiiee7 Knowflake Posts: 52 From: new brunswick, nj usa Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 21, 2011 01:47 AM
So when you read the description of pluto in scorpio its generational and it talks about a coming of a new world and that it represents death and rebirth. Does anybody think this could relate to 2012? Was just thinking about it today....IP: Logged |
Nothingbutaname Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 21, 2011 02:48 AM
End of the world? No, End of the world as we know it? Yes, very much so. I think it represents a end to the way in which we engage in the daily world, perhaps old institutions will die out and new ones will replace it, I'm sure there will be a revolution in the western world, a major one. Perhaps the monetary system will collapse, seems to be the most likely thing to occur. But I don't see that as a bad thing... but I'm a scorp sun with Scorp in pluto ... sun conjunct pluto so maybe I'm just comfortable with it?. Either way it should be beneficial for the species as a whole. Transformation is good. IP: Logged |
frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 463 From: yep,ks,usa Registered: Apr 2011
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posted September 21, 2011 02:49 AM
well, pluto isn't in scorpio now so i would say no....but it is in capricorn, and it could mean something seriously karmic coming up or already happening. IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy Knowflake Posts: 1145 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 21, 2011 03:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by laurenbabiiee7: So when you read the description of pluto in scorpio its generational and it talks about a coming of a new world and that it represents death and rebirth. Does anybody think this could relate to 2012? Was just thinking about it today....
Death and rebirth are themes brought up in connection with Scorpio all the time and most times, not literally. So no I don't think it necessarily means that the world is going to end and like Frankie there pointed out, it's not in Scorpio right now. I will say that I don't agree with the part about karmic issues though and I almost didn't see the connection until I thought about the Saturn association with Capricorn. But I think that's reaching a bit and that it's more likely Pluto in Cap has to do with people's obsessions with money and social status and success. Also, that we're going to see a lot of things come up revolving around power and those things - which is already coming to pass, with international financiers and extremely rich businessmen who have a lot of power wielding it against the common man, abusing them and trying their best to see to it that the average person doesn't have too much success and gain any control or power, themselves. IP: Logged |
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 463 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted September 21, 2011 03:03 AM
Stuff is going to happen when pluto in cap is in mutual reception with saturn when it gets to scorpio.Btw the mayan calendar ends on the 28th of October 2011 NOT on the 21st dec 2012... Just sayin'. ------------------ Transit Saturn giveth and Transit Saturn taketh away... IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy Knowflake Posts: 1145 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 21, 2011 03:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Anglerfish: Stuffs going to happen when pluto in cap is in mutual reception with saturn when it gets to scorpio.Btw the mayan calendar ends on the 28th of October 2011 on the 21st dec 2012... Just sayin'.
Ah! This is a great post. I was just going to go back and edit and say that what Frankie described sounds more like Saturn in Scorpio than Pluto in Cap.... Having said that, I've never really bought the 2012 theories at all. Think about it - if you were making a calendar, eventually you'd have to stop SOMEtime, right? For whatever reason. It's not possible to sit around forever and keep adding on to a calendar. I honestly think that that's just where the Mayans happened to stop and that there was no message behind it, but that ill-informed modern historians and scientists, saw that the calendar stops there and read all this stuff into it..."The WORLD will end then because there is no 2013." It's just silly to me and honestly I already feel bad for all the new-agers who devoutly believe in this, go around screeching it to everyone, and are going to have egg on their faces next December 22nd. This really isn't different from that reverend saying the Rapture was coming this year and everyone cracking joke after joke the next day when nothing happened. A lot of new-agers like to look down on, attack and mock Christians but they're really peddling the same stuff with this 2012 theory, just wrapped up in a different name and set of terms and catchphrases. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 831 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 21, 2011 11:17 AM
It's time for ascension... Means being so at one with truth that physical death doesn't affect you. So when the cataclysm comes we will be so evolved that leaving our physical bodies will be refreshing... Last night I was watching a movie .. one line ' to live is to be asleep, to die is to be awake '. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 831 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 21, 2011 11:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy: Ah! This is a great post. I was just going to go back and edit and say that what Frankie described sounds more like Saturn in Scorpio than Pluto in Cap....Having said that, I've never really bought the 2012 theories at all. Think about it - if you were making a calendar, eventually you'd have to stop SOMEtime, right? For whatever reason. It's not possible to sit around forever and keep adding on to a calendar. I honestly think that that's just where the Mayans happened to stop and that there was no message behind it, but that ill-informed modern historians and scientists, saw that the calendar stops there and read all this stuff into it..."The WORLD will end then because there is no 2013." It's just silly to me and honestly I already feel bad for all the new-agers who devoutly believe in this, go around screeching it to everyone, and are going to have egg on their faces next December 22nd. This really isn't different from that reverend saying the Rapture was coming this year and everyone cracking joke after joke the next day when nothing happened. A lot of new-agers like to look down on, attack and mock Christians but they're really peddling the same stuff with this 2012 theory, just wrapped up in a different name and set of terms and catchphrases.
You feel bad for the New Agers? Let us evaluate that quote. New Age is a fact. We are approaching the end of the age of Pisces. Since You are on an astrology forum, I'm assuming you know that when something changes signs the characteristics and circumstances change. When speaking about 'a new age', you are referring to the planet Earth changing into another sign in the sky. This is drastic and chaotic for any being living on earth.. She does a pole shift and gets demagnetized. But, the new age of Aquarius is coming and I for one believe the age of Pisces ends on 12-12-12. The reason I do is because an event which happens once every 25,920 years is occurring and according to Blavatsky it signals the end of a root race. A sign takes 2,160 to complete an age. We are coming to a most monumental point in human evolution on 12-21-12! An end of mother earth going through all 12 signs of zodiac completely. That means this planet must have fixed signs on it's angles. We are in the fifth root race.. Moving on into the sixth. Sixth root race people are already here, and will be the seeds of the new race to come. They will survive the coming cataclysm somehow..idk how.. I'm not a time traveler. But it's occurring now. We were chosen to live at this time. So just face your truth and reality and stand up for the human race and our evolution and the success of moving into the next golden age. Aquarius. Atlantis was fourth root race: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7gxD38uxxw IP: Logged |
maira Knowflake Posts: 937 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted September 21, 2011 06:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Anglerfish: Stuff is going to happen when pluto in cap is in mutual reception with saturn when it gets to scorpio.Btw the mayan calendar ends on the 28th of October 2011 NOT on the 21st dec 2012... Just sayin'.
You had me research this The date seems more valid, but Saturn goes into Scorpio in October 2012, so what gives? I also bumped into lots of info and inaccurate predictions. I tend to rely on astrology more and I agree with what you said about the mutual reception. To me it could mean a destruction of structure as in corporate systems, government, even religion.Could it also mean a physical destruction, as in earthquakes? What do you think it will happen?
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Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 613 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted September 21, 2011 07:29 PM
Interestingly enough, the R.E.M song "It's The End Of The World As We Know It" was released while Pluto was in Scorpio... O.OIP: Logged |
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 463 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted September 22, 2011 03:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by maira: You had me research this The date seems more valid, but Saturn goes into Scorpio in October 2012, so what gives?I also bumped into lots of info and inaccurate predictions. I tend to rely on astrology more and I agree with what you said about the mutual reception. To me it could mean a destruction of structure as in corporate systems, government, even religion.Could it also mean a physical destruction, as in earthquakes? What do you think it will happen?
I'm not sure tbh ,about Oct 28th but I'd like to think a lot of people wake up during that year until the mutual reception begins. I think that the old world will get an epic kick in the behind by that mutual reception though, because when Saturn gets with Pluto the target has no hope. Corruption will be held to account(Pluto in Cap) and Secrets will be outed to do with 8th house stuff- finances of others, violence/death,secrets and lies etc (Saturn in Scorpio). Also note that Mars will be in Cap from Nov 18 2012 until Dec 27th. This is a double mutual reception with the modern and traditional rulers of Scorpio transiting Capricorn. It happens again from 27 Oct 2014 until Dec 4 2014. I think that there may be an intensification of energies in these periods of time.
------------------ Transit Saturn giveth and Transit Saturn taketh away... IP: Logged |
iliketurtles Knowflake Posts: 75 From: 2099 Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 22, 2011 06:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by Anglerfish: Also note that Mars will be in Cap from Nov 18 2012 until Dec 27th. This is a double mutual reception with the modern and traditional rulers of Scorpio transiting Capricorn. It happens again from 27 Oct 2014 until Dec 4 2014. I think that there may be an intensification of energies in these periods of time.
hmmm thats rather interesting.. IP: Logged |
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 463 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted September 24, 2011 03:35 AM
I'm also hoping that other non pluto in scorpio people realise that WE'RE NOT LAZY ****s during the mutual reception. We can work hard, it's just that we work different.------------------ Transit Saturn giveth and Transit Saturn taketh away... IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Knowflake Posts: 1723 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 25, 2011 03:41 PM
To be honest, I don't believe that the end of the world has anything to do with astrology. Remember, free will. We can choose to save the planet or destroy it. I do think that the world will end at some point, but not because of what the stars say. I think that it will end because of overpopulation, too few resources for too many people, and the way that people mistreat the earth. I also don't believe in predicting when the world will end. I do not believe that ANYONE truly knows for sure if and when this will happen. I personally think that it will be unexpected and just come out of nowhere. I don't think that anyone will know when it is, and I tend not to believe in all of the hysteria about certain dates (such as the big Y2K scare when I was a kid). IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 831 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted February 17, 2012 04:02 PM
On 12-21-12 Pluto Capricorn 8 Saturn Scorpio 8 Very rare and meaningful. Pluto-Transformation Saturn-Karmic structure
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 2670 From: Saturn-free H12 ;) Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 17, 2012 04:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: On 12-21-12 Pluto Capricorn 8 Saturn Scorpio 8 Very rare and meaningful. Pluto-Transformation Saturn-Karmic structure
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 831 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted February 17, 2012 04:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by RegardesPlatero: To be honest, I don't believe that the end of the world has anything to do with astrology. Remember, free will. We can choose to save the planet or destroy it. I do think that the world will end at some point, but not because of what the stars say. I think that it will end because of overpopulation, too few resources for too many people, and the way that people mistreat the earth. I also don't believe in predicting when the world will end. I do not believe that ANYONE truly knows for sure if and when this will happen. I personally think that it will be unexpected and just come out of nowhere. I don't think that anyone will know when it is, and I tend not to believe in all of the hysteria about certain dates (such as the big Y2K scare when I was a kid).
I dont get this. Why are you into astrology if you don't think things can be predicted? Everything is written in the stars and yes 2012 is too. The cycles of the planets are like clocks. Just because you can't tell the time doesn't mean it can't be told. IP: Logged |