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LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted September 21, 2011 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strangely, without even meeting this fellow I have been quite attached to him. He personally doesn't know me that well, but I know a few things about him. Though, I do acknowledge that he has a tendency to hack me for no reason, well I never ask why he hacks me.
My Lilith is in Cancer.
His moon and ascendant are in cancer.
My South node is Aries, while his Lilith is in Aries. What does that say about this possible relationship?
Oh and must I almost forget, he's a Scorpio, while I'm an Aquarius.

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Sun,Mars-Aquarius
Ascendant-Taurus
Moon-Gemini
Venus,Saturn-Pisces
Jupiter, Mercury,Neptune-
Capricorn
Pluto-Sagittarius
Lilith-Cancer
N.Node-Libra

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posted September 21, 2011 07:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome, cool name you got!

My impression is that, with your Lilith sitting on top of his ascendant, he "sees" your dark anima. That is, the inner bad girl. (According to a few sources, Lilith in a male chart is the woman who secretly turns him on and makes him feel somewhat ashamed for feeling that way, and scared, because he has no control. In a female chart, Lilith is the powerful forbidden feminine side that the woman would embrace if she is truly empowered and independent.) In turn, his Cancer rising activates your inner bad girl - the one you suppress.

With your Lilith conjunct his Moon, this inner bad girl stuff evokes inexplicable emotional reactions from him, striking him at a deep personal and primal level.

I had a Lilith-Sun trine cross-aspect with someone and he's actually not that sexual but somehow brought out a side to me that would shock everyone.

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posted September 21, 2011 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capriquarius, what would you make of Lilith falling into someones 12th house? Or Lilith in Scorpio conjunct someones Venus/Jupiter?

You've described the asteroid in a really beautiful way that I've never heard before. Normally people attribute Lilith to really sadistic kind of descriptions, but the way you worded your comment really resonated with me.

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posted September 21, 2011 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Capriquarius
You make a good point on this. A friend of mine who introduced me to the guy on the first place, as my conversations with the guy progressed noticed how me and him were so alike. She says the two of us, sort of have this controlling negative view on people. We both love seeing the torture of people in a none obvious way. It's odd how she explained it, but she says that all the negativity between us are so much alike in nature.

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posted September 21, 2011 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I loved the description too, Capriquarius!
I'm so sorry to sort of hijack the thread, and it's ok if you don't respond here. How about Lilith (female) conjunct the descendant in synastry?

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posted September 21, 2011 09:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JFK:

Awesome! Thank you very much for the feedback. Made my day. I actually had to edit my initial post...sorry for any confusion.

Also thanks for pointing out the sadistic, spiteful side of Lilith, which should in theory be sparked in hard aspects, including the conjunction. Personally, I only experienced the trine connection, thankfully, so don't know exactly how the negative side would affect the partners and didn't even think of it. I guess there would be fear and domination issues arising from the relationship's sexuality, which would require maturity to handle.

From my experience, when planets fall into the 12th house in synastry (overlay or composite), they are functioning in an implicit, hidden way....and the issues arising from this covert interaction are not readily discussed between the partners, to the detriment of the relationship. So when your Lilith falls into someone's 12th, I take that to mean that your "vetoed" (by you and your conditioning) dark desires are not being acknowledged and will turn out to be his/her secret enemy unless Lilith is addressed and assuaged. A hidden enemy may no longer be a hidden enemy if you confront them, even as they deny their animosity, and figure out what you did to tick them off and offer to made amends.

When Lilith is conjunct Venus in synastry, that may mean that the Venus partner would be turned on by and loving of Lilith, and that the Venus person's style of loving would trigger the other person's Lilith. Jupiter would magnify this interaction and add benevolence. In Scorpio? Perhaps the Scorpio Lilith person is afraid of showing Scorpionic themes such as deep emotions, jealousy, merging with another on all levels, etc. But she shouldn't be afraid to show that side to her partner, because Venus/Jupiter would be loving and welcoming and forgiving (if there's anything to forgive) of this side, barring any additional hard aspects - for example, a Chiron conjunction or square added to the mix.

LiesLilithsaidtouranus:

Oops, I read your reply, thought it over and re-worded what I initially said. He doesn't see you as HIS inner bad girl (Lilith in Aries), but he sees your bad girl side and it affects his view of the world (ascendant) when he's interacting with you. He has his own dark anima and that would be whichever sign his Lilith is in. Sorry for any confusion!

For the sake of my own learning, what is it like having Lilith in Cancer? Do you secretly want to protect and nurture and be emotional but have somehow been conditioned to believe that it's bad?

If you don't mind posting his birth date and yours, I wouldn't mind doing a quick overview if you would respond with feedback...

Oh and also, please keep in mind that you should take whatever I say with a grain of salt because astrology is just my hobby, and if you want solid reliable information you should probably pay a certified astrologer for a reading.


maira:

Hi! I actually had to re-think that Lilith-Ascendant cross-aspect and reworded it just now.

With the female's natal Lilith conjunct the male's Descendant, my first thought is that her inner bad girl - the woman she would be if she was fully empowered - would be the type that is normally attracted to him for a relationship, and vice versa. What the guy looks for in someone else through relationship is the quality that the woman has somehow been forced to suppress. So if it's Lilith in Leo, the woman may secretly crave being a model or a movie star but outwardly eschews "attention ****** ." But the guy with the Leo descendant seeks women who love to get glammed up and admired by all. He would encourage her to bring out this side of herself, but she would vehemently deny and hide her secret ham if she isn't free of the conditioning.

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posted September 21, 2011 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Capriquarius,

I also loved your discriptions on lillith

I wanted to know what your take is on having lillith conjunct mars DW with someone. It is in Cancer both with tight orb.

(forgive me for further budding in LiesLilithsaidtouranus)

Thanks

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posted September 22, 2011 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayandNight21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i had litith opposite sun in relationship with someone and have lilith trine moon (which is positive) natally.

Although the sex was regular, frequent and 'hot' it was not satisfying, he did not take the time to find out desires, fantasies (lilith)and was more about him satisfying himself. I would avoid the opposition, I came out of that feeling repressed, suppressed and constrained (pluto, saturn). The other good aspects seemed to be minimised under this major lilith aspect (venus trine mars, uranus trine mars, moon conj pluto, all sexual aspects of compatibility). He was not experimental enough and didn't realise I had had other lovers before him who were far more giving and loving!!!

Now if lilith is trine or sextile that I would go for.

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posted September 22, 2011 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Capriquarius

You may be right about how I sort of change his views on the world. It's odd in a way though, because I have strong view points and he has a tendency to look at women in the media as objects that he wishes to view things with. When he said that about my favorite singer, I just told him off, instead of him lashing out on me he sort of quieted down. I could feel it in his energy, how he thought of what I said and took it as some sort of wise knowledge. But I think that mostly had to do with how active my Lilith has been lately.

Having Lilith in Cancer is no joke. I'm scared of people getting hurting, on top of that Lilith pulls on me not to help. She blocks my ability to actually want to care for people. She restricts me from doing what a normal Aquarius would do. And this is just a theory for all the Lilith in Cancers that I have met, as teenagers they are the kids that pulled automatically away from their family to create their own. They hide secrets, and become totally different people on an emotional level in the surface while their emotions continue to boil about how people don't care about them.

He was born on November 3rd,1993 in New York city at 8:26 Pm. While I was born on January 30th 1996 in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic at 12:01 Pm.

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posted September 22, 2011 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capriquarius, thank you so much! I think I own my Lilith energy - all my chart is about oppositions, mostly focused on the Aries/Libra axis but Lilith is in opposition with moon in Taurus. Sometimes she comes out and plays nicely and sometimes she wreaks havoc, but I always recognize her
She behaves most of the time, as I somehow managed to raise my vibrational level by not giving a *crap about my vibrational level, if that makes any sense

LiesLilithsaidtouranus, wow, 1996! Plenty of time for you to integrate your Lilith energy - in my experience it happens gradually and it does help that you are aware, that's the most important thing. One cannot escape conditioning if one is not aware of it.
I found this woman's description of my own lilith very accurate, so here's Lilith in Cancer http://www.sanjaperic.com/2005/04/28/lilith-in-cancer/

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posted September 22, 2011 08:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

DayandNight21: Thanks for the info! Was your lover the Sun person?


LiesLilithsaidtoUranus:

From the outside, it looks like a primarily a friend-type, communicative relationship you have with Mr. Scorpio, with your ascendant active in his 11th house and with his ascendant activating your 3rd house, where your Lilith resides. This is in line with what you said about how you set him straight when he talks inappropriately about women.

(Ok, apologies to anyone else reading this for veering off the subject a bit here.)

You might want to check out this thread about Nessus/Dejanira: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/206124-2.html

...because his Sun/Nessus conjunction in his 5th forms a T-square with your Sun/Dejanira/Asteroid Lilith square. Just the way you are, and the way you assert yourself as a free woman, triggers his "abuse" urge to turn you into a victim on some level - probably emotional abuse, since his Nessus is in a water sign.

I know a guy with a Sun/Nessus conjunction, and he is a player who seems to try to seduce his friends' love interests. He also has Mercury within that conjunction, so he also writes horror stories.

In addition, your Sun, Mars, and Juno all activate his 8th house (which includes sexual intimacy) and your Sun conjuncts his Eros in the 8th. You turn him on, on a non-superficial level.

Your Nessus is in your 7th house, so you may experience abuse in one-to-one relationships with someone whose planets/points aspect your Nessus. Mr. Scorpio's True Node (in his 5th house of pleasure) conjuncts your Nessus.

From all this I get a picture that Mr. Scorpio has a dishonorable agenda in the back of his mind while carrying on an apparently friendly banter-type relationship with you. But he has strong Saturn contacts to his Mars and Venus, which may restrain him from acting on these urges.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge of Lilith in Cancer! That's a wealth of info packed into a small paragraph.


Maira: Taurus Moon is a sweet but tough girl, no doubt she can handle Lilith when she pops up with a Mars transit or whatever it is that gets her going.

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posted September 23, 2011 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See this is why I actually go to astrology for answers Capriquarius. Because when I have certain feelings about a situation I can't find answers the way I do with astrology. I'm pretty sure he knows that I am emotionally conflicted from just meeting or speaking to him. He knows how quickly I just got emotionally attached to him, the thing though is that instead of acting the way that I do with other guys when I'm starting to like them, I make it less obvious. I become sort of impersonal with Mr.Scorpio, I show him that I'm not going to run away from him, or that I'm not going to smother him with any sort of obsession towards him. He goes in and out of my life though, which sets me on a trail to find him and I think he much enjoys it on the inside but just doesn't show it on the outside. He enjoys seeing me suffer for him. Mr.Scorpio though, has this strict view that he will never in his life cheat, he has been cheated on multiple times but he never looks at any woman but the one that he is with. I feel for him though, for all the horrible things that happened to him. No matter what he'd do to me I'd still care for him.

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posted September 23, 2011 09:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He does have Saturn aspects to Venus and Mars, so it's plausible that he would honor a commitment to a love relationship. But his Venus and Mars are not in harmonious aspect...he does not have a good relationship with women.

It sounds to me like he's more filled with fear and you're more from a place of love, if you can still care for this person. Personally I would try hard not to get attached to what sounds like a boy who denigrates women because he's afraid of being hurt by them.

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posted April 24, 2012 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AthenaLass     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all!

What about if his Scorpio Lilith / Uranus conjuncts my Scorpio Mars / Saturn / Pluto and all fall on his 8th house, but it conjuncts the 10th house on my chart.

My Pisces Lilith conjuncts with his Pisces moon and falls on his 12th house, while it’s on the 2nd house for me.

My Cancer Moon conjuncts his Cancer Sun/Mars/Mercury

What would this mean? Is this a good aspect in synastry? Will the lilith person be more aggressive?

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posted April 24, 2012 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fishy's (male) Lilith conjuncts
my (female) Sun,Moon,Mercury. in Leo
My True Lilith conjuncts his moon.
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I cant say this is the one aspect, but something is very deep and primal. There is also a strong fear between us. Which we cant seem to over come that..
He does bring out my leo qualities to its fullest. Google Leo and thats exactly the way I am with him, but its magnified.
Im not usually "leo" with men.. Maybe with my needs, but not the way I show affection. Not the way I am with other men.
ALso he does bring out this dark sexually side of me..
There's things between us I couldnt share with anyone.
Its like the you will do things for/with this person that you wouldnt even think about doing with any one else.

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posted April 24, 2012 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a sun/pluto/lilith conj all within 1* in my natal and its squaring my current mans venus 2*. The sexual attraction is intense and obsessive on both sides, but I think he(venus) is the one thats more obsessed, especially sexually.

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posted March 08, 2016 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mamawolf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra conjunction in 8th. Interestingly experimental for a first relationship.

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posted August 13, 2016 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poupoupidou     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LiesLilithsaidtouranus:
Strangely, without even meeting this fellow I have been quite attached to him. (...)

Lilith in synastry has a very influencial role, since she rules our obsessions. Supporting aspects with potential partner can drag us to them far beyond what is considered reasonable. It can have the power of a drug addiction. Such partners are the materialization of our wildest dreams, but it does not necessarily make them the right partners for a committed relationship.

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I would like to know about it as well. I would very appreciate if somebody could tell me. My Lilith is in Cancer 12th house.

How wide do you take orb for natal and synastry aspects? Because I have Lilith square NN/Sun (2-3 dgr) My Lilith also falls into my bf's 12th house and it conjuncts his Sun (5 dgr)

His Lilith is in Aquarius and conjuncts his DSC (2 orbs) and my Juno (4 dgr)

Do I amaze him by my Lilith placement or do I drive him crazy in a negative way? What do you think?

Edit: I forgot to add: His 11 dgr Lilith sextiles my 11 dgr Aries NN and my 12 dgr Aries Sun. Karmic relationship?

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