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posted September 25, 2011 09:22 PM            

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I am through with the saturn opposite venus transit and it resulted in yes, the cooling off of my relationship, and whippee, i am off to start the saturn in cancer 11th house opposite chiron in aries 9th house transit.

I am looking for some real life experiences that anyone can offer. I remember my exboyfriend having this when we dated. When we got back together this transit started for him, needless to say, when we dated he was serious, responsible, amazing. During this transit he was a completely differenct person, he was rebellious did not want to conform to anyone's opinions including mine, egotistical, the exact opposite, it was like night and day, well at the end of the opposition we broke up badly, mutually because there was no reasoning with him. I saw him this weekend, and yup back to normal, it seems like he calmed down a bit. Whew trying to figure out what i am in store for, another year of drama, i might die since my abused heart will stop beating.

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posted September 26, 2011 10:27 AM              

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According to Magi Astrology, you should avoid starting a relationship under this transit.

I embarked on one while Saturn was quincunx the other person's Chiron, which is also a Heartbreak Transit, and found that despite the strong feelings and compatibility, the timing was all wrong for us to start a life together. Saturn transiting his Chiron was marking a time when he should have been applying some discipline to his issues. Because he didn't, he was not in the place for a relationship with anyone.

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posted September 26, 2011 07:48 PM            

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thanks for responding, i am curious about what i will go through with this transit i just ended a relationship with someone, and i shudder to think that i have another year of some stupid heartbreak. Does this mean that i have to try and avoid all relationships, this is depressing, i don't want to have my heart broken in another year, i am trying to get over this one already, this is ridiculous

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posted September 26, 2011 08:08 PM              

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It does sound like Saturn is telling you to focus inward and heal your own pain, rather than looking for someone else to. "Love is the pursuit of the whole" n all that jazz!

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posted September 26, 2011 10:19 PM            

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I have this coming up, along with the opposition to my Sun and Ceres (after Mercury). I also have Neptune square Moon/Venus, and have been sad to think that any relationship might be bad/doomed- especially since I have been wanting one for a good while, and the one that I thought was promising, just wasn't, at all. I read a post from someone the other day, on their blog, pooh-poohing the "it will happen in its own time" echoing my own thoughts about how it would be nice if it happens before I land in a nursing home ( a good while before!) In the meantime, I get to hear about so many others being happily coupled, and wonder why they didn't have to wait for it to happen in its own time. Some have consistently been in good relationships, and I feel like this:

when everyone else seems to be like this:

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posted September 26, 2011 10:29 PM            

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Yeah i hear ya, i feel the same way i see a lot of my friends that have successful marriages and relationships and it seems so easy for them, and i have others where its hard from them. I honestly think finding love is all about luck, being in the right place at the right time and timing. I just think some are just luckier than others. I have had tremendous success with my career and it seems so easy for me where my friends who are lucky in love aren't lucky in their career and they probably look at me and go "how can she be so lucky" and i feel the same about their relationships etc. It weird i guess some things come easier for some and not so easy for others in various aspects of life. So i guess we chalk it up to "it is what it is" expect the worst and hope for the best. Hang in there i had a neptune venus transit once and it was by far the worst transit ever, i was so deceived and so sure i knew what i knew, and when it was over i felt so stupid, but when are going through it its hard.

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posted September 26, 2011 10:39 PM            

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I'm going to be experiencing it until Neptune gets close to 2*Pisces. I have really hoped to find some positive stories in relation to the transit, but rarely come across any.

I hit the jackpot where immediate family is concerned, but my life is out of balance when it comes to intimacy (real intimacy romantically). The Universe seems to forget that I need it, too. Anyway, I wish you luck.

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posted September 29, 2011 12:23 AM              

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bonneysharon, have you seen this thread?
http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1303206466

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posted September 02, 2014 07:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
According to Magi Astrology, you should avoid starting a relationship under this transit.

I embarked on one while Saturn was quincunx the other person's Chiron, which is also a Heartbreak Transit, and found that despite the strong feelings and compatibility, the timing was all wrong for us to start a life together. Saturn transiting his Chiron was marking a time when he should have been applying some discipline to his issues. Because he didn't, he was not in the place for a relationship with anyone.

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My same experience.

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posted June 01, 2019 08:14 AM            

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what does saturn opposite chiron mean as solar arc?

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posted June 01, 2019 10:35 AM            

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What if you have this in natal? My Saturn opposite my Chiron and everyone in a close age range. Since I am going through Saturn return my transit Saturn conjunct natal Saturn and oppose natal Chiron.

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posted June 04, 2019 01:32 AM            

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My sister has Saturn oppose Chiron/Mars conjunct.

I find that Mars/Chiron aspects can bring on hyper defensiveness or very painful insecurities pertaining to abilities or a "can do" attitude.

For my sister, its the doubting of her intellectual abilities(Mars is in Gemini) and the belief that others are "smarter" or more capable.Interestingly, her Moon/Mercury midpoint is also conjunct Chiron.

Saturn is insensitive(or rather indifferent to personal wounds) And so the opposition from Saturn adds a painful reality reflection to that perceived belief i.e everything could feel like it comes through hard work and strenous efforts for the individual. Or that it comes in dribs and drabs-no matter how hard they try.

Because the opposition in her case manifests in relationships, it is often others that appear "cold" or "mean" etc. getting in the way of her efforts through relentless criticism or negative interference(Saturn also forms a parallel aspect to her Dsc)

This often leads to a "See? I told you. I am no good" mentality which thwarts positivity in goal setting and can make one a "woes me" pessimist at worst(on the one hand).

On flip side however, it can make someone a shrewd,mature survivor at best(coming into an awareness that life is is not for the faint of heart) and proving naysayers wrong; achieving the incredible.

Saturn is delays.And I have profound respect and admiration for people who soldier on with Saturn on their Sun/Moon or Mars. Especially with the inclusion of Chiron there, as it heightens the feeling of not being "favoured" or "loved" etc.

I myself deal with Saturn on Venus conjunct and it already has relationships go nowhere. But it has also granted me realizations on commitment, love, relationships and self-love.

Saturn-Chiron is the gaining of wisdom through painful ways(especially when it involves the ego Sun/Mars). And this wisdom is often seen as "general knowledge" by the native but profound thinking by others.

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posted June 04, 2019 02:13 AM            

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This kicked off the worst time in my life - years of it. I was right to be "woe is me". My home life became hell, and no matter how mature I was, it was met with immaturity, bullying, shunning, etc. Things just kept getting worse.

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posted June 04, 2019 03:08 AM            

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I have this aspect in my natal chart. My Saturn is in Capricorn, in my 12th house. Chiron is in Cancer in my 6th house.

Delayed gratification and pessimism comes with the territory. But I'll always keep on keeping on.

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posted June 04, 2019 03:54 AM            

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When I was a kid, this is when my anxiety started. I had Pluto and Saturn moving through my 12th house, opposing my Aries. At the time, my mother was involved with a sociopath. A lot of tension at home, a lot going on, but it wasn't from my family, just at home because of him. I dealt with some bullying at school, but the he was the main problem. Mum had moved us out of my grandma's house, because she was bullying me, too, and had me stuttering. But this was a frying pan into the fire kind of thing. If you've seen Dirty John, he was a lot like him.

I'm trying to remember when it was exact, as an adult. Uranus and pluto added into the mix, in different places from Saturn this time. In 2010, the bullying started online. Then it came at home - but the family was the direct source. My sister, who was taught to fight by the sociopath, started it up again. Mother became an alcoholic. I became agoraphobic as a kid. This time I was spending more time out of the house, even if it meant walking around the streets in the middle of the night, because I wasn't safe. When I was a kid, things eventually got better. As an adult, things will never be the same.

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posted June 05, 2019 01:16 AM            

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I have Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune in Capricorn all are opposite my Chiron in Cancer. I don't really know what it does to me but all I know is that Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune are all in the 3rd house which ****** me off since I'm very insecure when I speak to people in real life. It's not as bad as it was when I was a teenager, but it still has its difficulties though. I had extreme social anxiety as a young adult, which I have gotten better now, but it's just groups that I have a problem with. Especially "party" situations or "family get togethers." I try to be "Mr. Jokey"... but I guess I'm just too serious sometimes. Reminds me of the scene in "The Family Man" with Nicolas Cage when he goes to that get together and just goes straight for the alcohol. The only problem is though is that I'm a horrible drunk. So, it's like a lose/lose situation. I often find myself just getting absolutely roasted at get togethers so I find that it's better to just avoid them. lol... it's actually pretty damn funny if I think back on them, but also painful. Maybe I take myself too seriously at times.

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posted March 10, 2020 12:21 PM            

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
I have this aspect in my natal chart. My Saturn is in Capricorn, in my 12th house. Chiron is in Cancer in my 6th house.

Delayed gratification and pessimism comes with the territory. But I'll always keep on keeping on.

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Keep on keeping on! I have this, too. Same signs and houses. My natal Chiron is Rx.

Right now transit Pluto opposite natal Chiron.

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posted March 10, 2020 06:53 PM            

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Originally posted by manymoones:
Keep on keeping on! I have this, too. Same signs and houses. My natal Chiron is Rx.

Right now transit Pluto opposite natal Chiron.

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I’ve commented on this thread before but I have a similar situation to you. I have natal Saturn RX in 6th opposite Chiron in 12th. With transit Saturn and transit Pluto conjunct natal Saturn opposite natal Chiron. Rough but all you can do is keep on keeping on!

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Bump!

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posted March 14, 2020 02:31 PM            

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Apparently I have this?
Saturn in 12th house opposite Chiron in 6th but maybe 5 degrees won't have much effect...?

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posted March 16, 2020 02:55 AM            

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I've got this opposition natally, and the saturn return for me has the big ol' Capricorn stellium opposing my Chiron, too.

It's been surprisingly beneficial, though! The years prior were more painful I think, but now it's like I've finally felt like I'm getting an external handle on my own sensitivities and personal structures involving them. Integration time!

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