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Nicole401
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posted September 28, 2011 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When a planet conjuncts the DESCENDANT, does it also affect the ascendant (since it opposes it)?

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AriesSun
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posted September 28, 2011 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesSun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nicole401:
When a planet conjuncts the DESCENDANT, does it also affect the ascendant (since it opposes it)?

I'd love to hear answer to this too!

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posted September 28, 2011 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course it does.

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posted September 28, 2011 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Winged Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Ascendant and Descendant is a circle, not a straight line. When a planet transits one end of the Asc/Des, it affects both ends: identity and relationships.

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Nicole401
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posted September 28, 2011 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if there's an opposition? A planet that conjuncts the ASC, and a planet that conjuncts the DESC. Do the planets still affect both the ASC/DESC?

For example, I have a Venus-Pluto opposition, does Venus affect the asc AND the desc? and so does pluto?

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NativelyJoan
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posted September 28, 2011 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nicole401:
When a planet conjuncts the DESCENDANT, does it also affect the ascendant (since it opposes it)?

I think all the aspects would have to be taken into consideration. For example I have my Venus in Leo in the 7th conjunct my Descendant in Leo conjunct my Juno in Leo. I'm seeing a pattern here. I think I'd be good matched up with someone who has Leo as a dominant sign in their natal chart. Which is true however I'd really like that Fire to be balanced out by Air say Aquarius . To me these aspects to my Descendant just make me more aware of myself and draw a path to the kind of partner who would ideally suit me. I think it's great when natal planets make aspects to the Descendant. It makes it easier to understand yourself and what you attract.

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posted September 28, 2011 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, if it conjuncts the DSC then it of course opposes the ASC. Look up descriptions for whatever that planet is-opposing ASC.

I think it is especially important if the ruler of a house is placed in the opposite house. For example, I have Venus in Scorpio in 1st house..Scorpio ASC, so my DSC is Taurus..Taurus' ruler is Venus.

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posted September 28, 2011 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
frankie i sorta have the same thing except my risings in taurus, so my venus is in scorpio conjunct pluto and theyr both conjunct my descendent.

i like what nativelyjoan said too about planets on the descendent helping understand the self. its so true!

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VenusDiSirius
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posted September 29, 2011 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When planet on angle,observe conjunction,not opposition; In depth search will reveal u how much every angle planet serves Asc and it in in the most personal and integral relation to Asc(just as planet on Asc is).
If planet on IC/MC,and squares or sextiles,u can interpret it as different aspect,cuz there doesn't have to be aspect between Asc/Mc,Ic/Asc...

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posted September 29, 2011 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesSun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BUT what is the different between conjunct ASC and opposition ASC?

Does that opposition influence to your outlook?

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sand
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posted September 29, 2011 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have scorpio ac and pluto in scorpio conj it. also taurus dc and venus in taurus conj it.

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Nicole401
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posted September 30, 2011 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AriesSun, that's exactly what I want to know. If a planet that opposes the asc affects the asc as if it were conjunct it. Does the planet opposing the ASC affect the appearance of a person or their personality (1st house), just as much as the planet conjunct the ASC?

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posted September 30, 2011 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nicole401:
AriesSun, that's exactly what I want to know. If a planet that opposes the asc affects the asc as if it were conjunct it. Does the planet opposing the ASC affect the appearance of a person or their personality (1st house), just as much as the planet conjunct the ASC?


Ppl who have eg Moon on Dsc,do not look like those with Asc Moon. But,in the end the do have same energy- I have not met men with Mars/Pluto(even Saturn) on Dsc that haven't been seen as attractive;

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