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carl
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posted September 30, 2011 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does not have to be sun sign persay, but what kind of people hide their signs? I do not think scorpios. Most typical people like o gloat that they are scorps (the sexual stereotype). I wonder..

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posted September 30, 2011 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Almost everyone I've met is proud of their sun sign. Perhaps someone who doesn't like what their sign says about them? Or maybe because the description of their sign is nothing like them?

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posted September 30, 2011 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The signs that get slagged off the worst. Pisces (the anti-Neptune sentiment in the astro community is HUGE right now), Leo... in the past there's been times I hesitated to even tell people I had planets in the sign because then they always assume everything you say and do is attention-seeking behavior and about your ego, whether it's true or not.

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posted September 30, 2011 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the only sign i have met that is hesitant to tell what sign they are is scorpio which surprises me bc i love that sign and then when I tell them I tend to get along really well with scorpios they smile and you see the relief on their face.

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posted September 30, 2011 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah not wanting to reveal your sign is weird. I've never felt that way. Even when I was younger and not into astrology I knew my sign was Libra and I was satisfied with that even though I had no idea what it meant. Today, I'm at peace with my astrological makeup and the lessons that come along with it. I had a friend who was a Taurus and would claim to be an Aries because her NN was in Aries. I mean she used to flat out tell people she was an Aries. And she even explained to me one reason we got along was because I was a Libra and she was an Aries. It was nuts. Yes the NN is important but at the end of the day the planets revolve around the Sun. The Sun is the identity so, whether we like it or not that's an integral part of who we are.

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posted October 01, 2011 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What sign is most likely to hide their sign?

Maybe people who have a lot of conflicting signs in their chart would want to hide it.

I have squares between my Aries Sun and Cap planets... so to tell someone "I'm an Aries" almost feels like a lie.
I'm a mixture of things, as everyone is.

I wouldn't mind telling people I guess... as long as they don't seem like very hardcore "sun sign - believers". That would creep me out.

Also, I have a Pisces Mercury... and generally we don't like to divulge any information about ourselves, unless we're close friends with the one asking. I think other water Mercuries are similar.


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Yes the NN is important but at the end of the day the planets revolve around the Sun. The Sun is the identity so, whether we like it or not that's an integral part of who we are.

I 'sort of' disagree... It is a part of who we are... But so are other things!

My main personality traits come from..
My Sun - The dispositor of my Sun (Mars in Cap) - My SN conj Pluto (Scorpio) - My NN conj Venus - Taurus... and all my Neptune/Pisces stuff.

It's all very *mixed* ^ I'm not sure what is more important... It really depends on the context, the situation I'm in, the mood I'm in, the people I'm with, whether I'm having a good day or a bad day etc... but those are all different sides of my personality.

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posted October 01, 2011 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I do not think scorpios.

Carl - Do you have a Sagittarius Mercury?
Maybe a Scorpio person who also has Scorpio Mercury would be more likely to 'hide' things, including their sign.
Sagittarius Merc can be very open and direct in conversation.

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posted October 01, 2011 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
the only sign i have met that is hesitant to tell what sign they are is scorpio which surprises me bc i love that sign and then when I tell them I tend to get along really well with scorpios they smile and you see the relief on their face.

Scorpio is probably the one sign that is probably both really hated/feared AND adored. Just depends on who you're speaking to. Some will give you the horror face and say this really crazy 5hit when they find out; others will start leering because they have a Scorpio fetish lmao. There's not that many people that are indifferent to them.

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posted October 01, 2011 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
Yeah not wanting to reveal your sign is weird. I've never felt that way. Even when I was younger and not into astrology I knew my sign was Libra and I was satisfied with that even though I had no idea what it meant. Today, I'm at peace with my astrological makeup and the lessons that come along with it. I had a friend who was a Taurus and would claim to be an Aries because her NN was in Aries. I mean she used to flat out tell people she was an Aries. And she even explained to me one reason we got along was because I was a Libra and she was an Aries. It was nuts. Yes the NN is important but at the end of the day the planets revolve around the Sun. The Sun is the identity so, whether we like it or not that's an integral part of who we are.



Libra is a sign that, for the most part, doesn't really get attacked by people; there's no stigma attached to it so of course you didn't really have a problem with it and it's hard for you to fathom lying about it.

If your friend had a lot of planets in Aries or the first house, or a really prominent Mars, I can see why she felt more Arian. Just because someone's sun is in a certain sign doesn't mean that's the most prominent energy in their chart. My sun mercury and NN are all in Leo but my chart is actually more Libra - four planets in the sign as well as having the sun, venus and mercury all in the 7th house (Libra's house). In Pullen chart delineations, Libra always comes up first as the strongest sign in my chart, Leo comes in third place. So yeah sometimes when people ask about Libras or comment on them, I'll hop up and reply because truthfully I AM more Libran than anything else.

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posted October 01, 2011 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 01, 2011 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpios have always been upfront about their sign with me.

* The Pisces with a 7 lifepath refused to tell what his sign was. When his birthday was posted on the community board ( we worked together) he threw a hissy fit. moon in Aquarius.

* Aries # 1 said, "I don't believe in that stuff." Two minutes later I walked into a room to overhear him with two other Aries comparing birthdays - April 6th.

* "Aquarius" said Aries # 2 after long uncomfortable pause followed by piercing intense eye contact. I blinked first. Aries with moon in Scorpio.

* Next week is your birthday, isn't it? "No!" said Gemini-Scorpio. B4 I was into Astrology, I collected birthdays.

* What's your sign? "I'm born in March" Scorpio rising for sure on this one.

* "What do you do for a living?" I do 'xyz' for a living. What's your zodiac sign? "Is that that thing with your birthdays?" Yes. "I'm born in december? December what? No answer. Sagittarius - Libra/Scorpio either 1st or 2nd...research is on going.

*What's your zodiac sign? What? I was born in June, you? "July"

When is his birthday? "He was born at the end of July." Leo.

*Sagittarius w/ Pisces moon blocked me on FB after I asked the zodiac question. But we have a troubled history. Dec 6th.

* Cancer with Virgo moon (7.11) took their DOB off FB after I sent birthday greetings.

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posted October 01, 2011 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I 'sort of' disagree... It is a part of who we are... But so are other things!

My main personality traits come from..
My Sun - The dispositor of my Sun (Mars in Cap) - My SN conj Pluto (Scorpio) - My NN conj Venus - Taurus... and all my Neptune/Pisces stuff.

It's all very *mixed* ^ I'm not sure what is more important... It really depends on the context, the situation I'm in, the mood I'm in, the people I'm with, whether I'm having a good day or a bad day etc... but those are all different sides of my personality.


Well the Sun is our identity, our ego. Other things add to what characterize people of course, like you described your own thoughts Mercury, emotions Moon, how we appear to the world, Ascendant etc. But the Sun is our personal identity we can't deny it. What would all the planets in the Solar system gravitate around if there were no Sun to bounce around. I'm just thinking about this logically. Other things go into defining who we are but our identity is one of the biggest pieces of that puzzle. It's not the only piece but it's an important piece, next to the Moon and the Ascendant.

The first planet I look at when looking at someone's natal chart is their Sun. And I move from there to Mercury and all around the chart. I do understand what you're saying, but I think we take the importance of Sun signs for granted. When looking at charts we have to start from somewhere, in order to understand what we are we need to know what we're not and it starts with the Sun. Of course we are complex creatures and many other things go into defining us completely free from anything astrological.

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posted October 01, 2011 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
when i was younger i would ask people to guess my sign and they would say sag. well i have mercury, Venus and mars in the 9th house, sag rising, South node in sag, and Neptune, Uranus and Jupiter in sag.i am picky sometimes bc i am a virgo but for the most part I tend to be pretty laid back. Oh and my sun-moon midpoint is sag.

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posted October 01, 2011 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:

Libra is a sign that, for the most part, doesn't really get attacked by people; there's no stigma attached to it so of course you didn't really have a problem with it and it's hard for you to fathom lying about it.

If your friend had a lot of planets in Aries or the first house, or a really prominent Mars, I can see why she felt more Arian. Just because someone's sun is in a certain sign doesn't mean that's the most prominent energy in their chart. My sun mercury and NN are all in Leo but my chart is actually more Libra - four planets in the sign as well as having the sun, venus and mercury all in the 7th house (Libra's house). In Pullen chart delineations, Libra always comes up first as the strongest sign in my chart, Leo comes in third place. So yeah sometimes when people ask about Libras or comment on them, I'll hop up and reply because truthfully I AM more Libran than anything else.


I see your point and I completely agree but my friend didn't have heavy Arian energy. I've analyzed her natal chart extensively. She was very insecure and I wanted to understand her. She was a Sun Taurus with her Moon in Pisces. Again a billion things go into filling the circle of what defines us but there is a starting point. This is just my perspective. For some it's the Ascendant for me it's the Sun. I'm not attached to the idea that Sun signs are the ONLY THING that matter. I'm just pointing out their place in analyzing a natal chart.

Also just because Libra's don't supposedly get a lot of negative attention does not mean someone like myself could not be insecure with having that Sun sign and decide not to reveal it. Anyone can be sensitive about their natal chart for any amount of reasons. (Just to clarify again I am not). However, here's an example of people reacting negatively to me stating my sun sign:

I mention I'm a Libra to someone and they proceed to hold up their hands in a way that shows scales tipping back and forth and exclaim "can't ever make a decision huh, what to do, what to do." Generalizations, of people who clearly don't know how complex Astrology is. This is all just my perspective based on my personal experience. We are all VERY different.

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posted October 01, 2011 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Joan you are right that a lot of people hear Libra and automatically think that person has problems making decisions and this is a very simplistic and ignorant way of looking at Libra in my opinion.

and your friend who thinks she is an aries is a hilarious anecdote.

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posted October 01, 2011 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The first planet I look at when looking at someone's natal chart is their Sun.

Well in my experience, looking at the charts of friends and family... the Sun sign does not always stand out like a beacon in their personality.. and there are usually reasons for that in the natal chart. The classic reason would be, if the Sun is under pressure from other planets in the chart... in particular transpersonal planets. If you see a Sun/Neptune conjunction for example or a Sun/Pluto conjunction.. you can just about bet that person will not behave as typical "X" sign...

But there are different astrological opinions on the matter. Some astrologers would agree with you. Others, don't always take the Sun to be the most important part of the chart. Some argue the AC is the most important... although I'm not sold on that..... and - I think in Indian Astrology the Moon is seen as the most significant.

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posted October 01, 2011 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartless     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting. i didn't know some people would lie about their suns. all the people who have told me their BDs or signs are proud of them!

funny that no one believes i have a fiery sun. they all say i'm a Taurus (or 2 other earth suns).

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posted October 01, 2011 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda Goodman always said that when she went through the signs in a room full of people, the Gemini's always tried to duck out. She also pointed out that June is one of the most popular month for births


That said.. Many Gemini's aren't those that pop out with or what they are (they take things inside and have to think about it).

I have known many Scorps and they have no problem saying they are Scorps.

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posted October 01, 2011 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Scorpio and have been mostly upfront about my sign however only couple of times being bit unsure how someone is going to react. I have convinced them that all horror stories they might have heard would not be true with me.I have never told anyone that "I am not comfortable telling you my sign." I really don't know how to duck that question. Something to learn from Geminis I guess I would say I am pretty proud about my sign however occasionally regretted some innate quality which Scorpion has.

In my experience Aries Men and Gemini Men tend not to believe in astrology so they either don't know or don't care. I do not people who outright lie on what their sign is?

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posted October 01, 2011 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
I see your point and I completely agree but my friend didn't have heavy Arian energy. I've analyzed her natal chart extensively. She was very insecure and I wanted to understand her. She was a Sun Taurus with her Moon in Pisces. Again a billion things go into filling the circle of what defines us but there is a starting point. This is just my perspective. For some it's the Ascendant for me it's the Sun. I'm not attached to the idea that Sun signs are the ONLY THING that matter. I'm just pointing out their place in analyzing a natal chart.

Also just because Libra's don't supposedly get a lot of negative attention does not mean someone like myself could not be insecure with having that Sun sign and decide not to reveal it. Anyone can be sensitive about their natal chart for any amount of reasons. (Just to clarify again I am not). However, here's an example of people reacting negatively to me stating my sun sign:

I mention I'm a Libra to someone and they proceed to hold up their hands in a way that shows scales tipping back and forth and exclaim "can't ever make a decision huh, what to do, what to do." Generalizations, of people who clearly don't know how complex Astrology is. This is all just my perspective based on my personal experience. We are all VERY different.


If out of all the signs, she picked Aries to refer to herself as, I'm thinking there has to be some kind of reason for that, even if she doesn't actually have any planets in the sign. It might even be something as initially obscure as having a singleton Mars; anything.

Remember a singleton can a lot of times overrule everything else in a chart, even the sun. When you mention the complexity of astrology, that's exactly it - which is why I can't really sign on to the theory that having your sun in a certain sign is the be-all, end-all. Trust me, there's a lot of people who are little to nothing like their sun sign, and when you check out their chart, you find out real fast exactly why that is. So no I don't believe that everybody boils down to just their sun sign.

And yeah, I'm not saying that every sign doesn't have some stereotype associated with it - the Libra indecisiveness thing is pretty widespread - but there's a world of difference between that and some of the REALLY negative things I've heard people say about other signs, which is why I totally understand them lying or not volunteering the info in the first place. I have yet to hear any Libra say they've hidden their sign - online, in person or anyplace else. And that's because, Libras don't get anywhere near the amount of hassle about being a Libra that some other signs do. It's pretty much the 'easiest' sign to be in the zodiac in that respect.

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posted October 01, 2011 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Linda Goodman always said that when she went through the signs in a room full of people, the Gemini's always tried to duck out. She also pointed out that June is one of the most popular month for births

Interesting she would say this because there's an unofficial consensus round here that she's one of those who hid her birth details. We believe she's an Aries-Scorpio & not Aries-Aries has claimed.

My own experience with this combo (Aries-Scorpio) leads me to believe she belonged to this group. To my knowledge I've known three of these people and the all went to length to cover up their true birth details. It took a little and a lot of cunning on my part to find out the truth.

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posted October 01, 2011 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by carl:
Does not have to be sun sign persay, but what kind of people hide their signs?

I think the question we should be asking ourselves is why would anyone lie about their astrological makeup? Why do we care so much about what other people think about us. Seriously, I mean it doesn't matter what perceptions people have about our natal makeup, it's not their concern. And how exactly would we hide it because, unless we're asked or give it out freely we are all in a sense keeping our natal charts hidden. The only reason I think someone would lie about their astrological makeup is because they either don't understand it, don't relate to it, or are incredibly insecure about it based on public opinion.

Side note: My Taurean friend who claimed she was an Aries new nothing about astrology. I actually was the first one to introduce her to the concept of natal chart's after she made those claims because I had never met someone who lied about their astrological make up. She even claimed I was really a Gemini, not a Libra, which again made no sense to me because I'm dominant Libra and Aries with two personal planets in each and a heavy 1st and 7th house and 8th house. Truly though the only thing that matters is what we think of ourselves.

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posted October 01, 2011 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Joan,

I have always said what sign I am to others but I know my sign is not really understood and I feel libra and scorpio are not understood well either. People have this stereotypes in their heads of what a virgo, libra and scorpio is like and their perception is simplistic and incomplete.

most virgos I know are not perfectionistic, picky in their own way perhaps but not perfectionistic or virgin like or super shy or super organized. some are super organized and super clean but a lot of them aren't obsessed with cleanliness and organization or are super reserved. I have found a lot of virgos who are very friendly and outgoing,perhaps reserved in the sense that they keep certain things to themselves but dont we all . I am willing to bet that the ones that are super organize and super clean probably have more Virgo in their chart than the average Virgo or better yet have virgo with LIBRA in them. Libra neeeds their environment to look beautiful and clean. what I do find true is that we are very logical, analytical and practical and deep thinkers. We also do notice details people miss specially if virgo is rising or person has virgo in other personal planets (moon,venus, mars) or good mercury aspects. Don't get me wrong I am a virgo and I need self and environment to be clean but I am not super anal and picky about it like my sign is thought out to be. I am PRACTICAL in my approach to it, not perfectionistic!!!

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