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4lifephrases
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posted October 01, 2011 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wondering how each of you have had to deal with famous Cardinal T-square in the sky. Where is it located? What have you learnt out of it and made any firm decisions on.

I am addicted to Anne Ortelee and it is very helpful. Sometimes although I would love to know what others are going through. I am still unsure how I am getting affected.

Pluto in Capricorn - 1st
Saturn in Libra - 10th
Uranus in Aries - 4th

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Ceridwen
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posted October 01, 2011 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WE are affected the same way:

Saturn: 10th house
Uranus: 4th house
Pluto: 1st house

for me it is personal:

Saturn has been on my MC (5 Libra), Pluto (9 Libra) trine my Moon and square my Saturn (17 Libra)

Uranus on my IC and square my Venus, trine my Mars

Pluto on my Venus (6 Cap) and square my MC_IC_axis.

BIG insights in myself!
Not all very pleasant.
I feel so awkard in social gatherings, when I am not in a certain function. Still!

Anyway, for me this cardinal cross took place when I was to London, seeing Jude Law in "anna Christie". Well, let`s just say I am still picking myself up from the floor as to his intense performance
(for HIM Tr Pluto was conjunct his Sun and square his MC, so I guess it makes sense).
Interestingly during this week I was there, Tr Mars and Tr Juno were perfecting the cardinal cross with Tr Mars being exactly opposite Tr Pluto and my Venus. lol

Then I moved on to see another performance of someone else; and coincidence had it I was seeing him last week again, and he manged to single me out from the audience and made me feel total embarassed of myself - he didn`t anything wrong or out of the ordinary; he just was approaching me during the show, because I was trying too obviously to avoid eyecontact - as he was searching for someone to participate in a little children´s birthday game on stage and I certainly did NOT want to, so I looked away, and he squatted beside me and commented on this and asked for my name. And that was it, nothing too unusual I guess, but I hate it how nervous I was feeling with him being close and talking to me. I am not a schoolgirl anymore, for God`s sake, and there is no reason to be shy or nervous, but I was (which made me just too aware that I have been missing certain experiences and avoided learned certain things in my youth, which now makes me feel lacking in any kind of social context; not to mention that he made me completely nervous by constantly coming too close for comfort. Coincidence, I was sitting at an aisle and for some reason he was singing most of his songs, while standing directly beside me. *sighs* Let`s just say I do not feel well equipped to deal with attention. I was there to see HIM, not to BE seen!).

It is silly to even talk about that, as unimportant this maybe is, but it just shows HOW MUCH I had been isolating myself from others during my formatitve years.

Besides that guy makes me really nervous (I once spoke to him, but it is so long ago, and he will not remember, but I thought I wouldn`t feel that nervous anymore. Even if back then I had a minor crush on him, it should have been completely gone by now, which it is. It makes me just nervous to be noticed I guess).

THAT was the cardinal cross for me.
Silly?

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4lifephrases
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posted October 04, 2011 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ceridwen,

Thanks for replying. Firstly I should tell you that it is bit cool to see Jude Law. :-) Lucky you. Secondly I must say as you said that you can see lots of ugly personal stuff which is basically Pluto in 1st.Asking you to change. You might have to learn things which you didn't as a child is Uranus in 4th perhaps but what about Saturn in 10th.

As for me yes, I am aware of lots of things which Pluto makes me show like I used to see people mainly black and white and now seeing in grey. I have also not done things as a child which I clearly went ahead and spent 2 years or more to do it. Still there is lots to do. I guess it is all essential for my work.I have realized that at the moment I do not liked to be asked what am I doing ? and how am I ? because I do not have answer on now.I have ideas but I know it would take a while to go further.

So my question is do you think it is essential for you to change to achieve some success in your work?


Found this online,


Uranus Transits the Fourth House

Your home life may be in a state of flux during this cycle. It's possible that you move house, but even if you don't, there could be some disruptions to your domestic routine or erratic elements on the home front that you need to deal with now. Your life speeds up, and decision-making can be very hasty now. You definitely feel the need for action, but if you don't know where you�re headed, you might take the wrong turn. Unexpected changes in plans or events can test your patience, and you could feel a bit out of control at times, particularly if Uranus is also transiting square to your Ascendant. However, events could stimulate you to try new approaches and they certainly act to cut boredom. Letting go of old family conditioning is a theme.

Pluto Transiting 1 st house

In the first house of self-image, it compels the natives to uphold their sef-image at any cost. Rumor goes that Prince Charles, who holds this Pluto position, requires his lovers, Camilla including, to address him “Your Highness” even in the middle of love-making.
God forbid, you would openly disagree with a Pluto-in-the-first-house person. He or she would level you with the ground. That is because these people feel that it is them against the world. So they put on the iron mask of their opinions and bravely march on regardless of what stands in their path.
Their one-on-one relationships tend to be their main casualties. Only when the natives stop seeing the world as their greatest threat and realize that it is merely the projection of their own mind, they slay their dragon.
If you have Capricorn in the first house, transiting Pluto is going to transform your self-image, and your relationship with the world. Personal relationships, particularly marriages and partnerships of all kinds will undergo irrevocable change as well.

Saturn Transiting the Tenth House

Saturn reaches the top of our chart when it begins its transit through the tenth house. Ironically enough, there is freedom in knowing some of our limitations, and Saturn's transit through the tenth house teaches us exactly what this means. By the time Saturn leaves the house, we will have learned where we stand in the world, and how we have limited our achievements. This self-evaluation then offers us the freedom to appraise where we want to go. Approximately 14 years before this transit, we learned Saturnine lessons of the fourth house—we built a secure foundation within ourselves. Now it is time we build a secure foundation in our professional and/or most public lives. Our standing in society now comes under Saturn's scrutiny. We are in the spotlight, and what it is exactly that we have been building now comes up for inspection. Any projects begun 12-14 years before this transit are now scrutinized. Some of us find ourselves getting recognition and career "rewards" at this time. If this transit occurs in early adulthood, it is a time when we face our duties as a career person. Although the tenth house is a house of ambition, we do not focus on where we are going as much as we focus on where we stand. The question, "Where are we going?", is reserved for the next house, the eleventh, although on some level we are preparing for that stage as well. Before we know where exactly we are headed, we must know where we stand. Saturn's transit of the tenth house is an eye-opening one—a time when we are working hard, taking on our fair share of duties and responsibilities, and either reaping some of the rewards of our hard work or facing the consequences of poor choices. We become aware of what we have and haven't accomplished to date, and we unconsciously prepare to re-evaluate our lives in terms of our personal goals during the next house transit. What have we achieved to date? We now are treated to a realistic look at what we have built and what we have achieved. We no longer view our place in the world, our careers, our reputations, and our standing in society with rose-colored glasses. We face the facts, and only the facts. At the beginning of the transit, our increased sensitivity to where we stand and to our reputations may feel uncomfortable for some. We may feel exposed, publicly scrutinized, or under fire in our careers. We may also feel burdened by our responsibilities. This discomfort comes only as a result of a rush of reality into the matters of the tenth house, and if the discomfort is great, it is only due to the fact that we may have been holding onto false images of ourselves. Just as a mid-life crisis is experienced differently by different people, Saturn's transit of the tenth house holds different meaning for different people, depending very much on how true we have been to ourselves. However, as Saturn moves through the house, we begin to feel more secure. We recognize what it is exactly that we have accomplished.


The major thing I understand from this is

1. Letting go of old family conditioning is a theme.
2. Only when the natives stop seeing the world as their greatest threat and realize that it is merely the projection of their own mind, they slay their dragon.
3.Although the tenth house is a house of ambition, we do not focus on where we are going as much as we focus on where we stand. The question, "Where are we going?", is reserved for the next house, the eleventh, although on some level we are preparing for that stage as well. Before we know where exactly we are headed, we must know where we stand.

It isn't always fun to know where we stand.

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Ceridwen
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posted October 05, 2011 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

"Firstly I should tell you that it is bit cool to see Jude Law. :-)"
Actually it was pretty hot. And raw and intense.
As a matter of fact I´ve seen him four times in the course of three days (my friend was ordering all the tickets; I had no say. lol)
And I had seen him two years ago in "Hamlet"; though I must say he was even more incredible now.
JEEZ, that man can unleash a storm of energy on stage!
I kid you not! In one performance he even broke the rocket chair on stage, when he pushed it to the ground. lol

"You might have to learn things which you didn't as a child is Uranus in 4th perhaps"
Yes, could be

" but what about Saturn in 10th."
Not sure. Maybe more purposedness?

"Still there is lots to do. "
I realized that as well. This is just the beginning.

"So my question is do you think it is essential for you to change to achieve some success in your work? "
I don´t know. I am pretty content with my work. It is my social life that is lacking I guess.
I`d like to have some romantic success as well.

"It's possible that you move house,"
I did last year.

"Rumor goes that Prince Charles, who holds this Pluto position, requires his lovers, Camilla including, to address him “Your Highness” even in the middle of love-making."


"Personal relationships, particularly marriages and partnerships of all kinds will undergo irrevocable change as well."
I guess it makes sense with Tr Pluto being conjunct natal Venus as well, and as a matter of fact my progressed ASC is only one or two degrees away.


"Approximately 14 years before this transit, we learned Saturnine lessons of the fourth house—we built a secure foundation within ourselves."
1997 was not a very happy time in my home. My grandpa was having a stroke, and we took him in, until he died two years later. I think it was the year that I really closed up myself. Not a good time at all.
On the flip side I learned to "function" quite well in the real world, especially since my family and especially mother needed me to be more Saturnian than Neptunian in that time.
I guess I overdid this thing though.

"the rewards of our hard work or facing the consequences of poor choices."
I guess it is both for me.

Tr Saturn was also trine my Moon on 17 Aqua and square my Saturn on 17 Cancer and will oppose my Chiron on 20 Aries. After that the pressure should ease up.
Funnily Saturn transits are always so much more difficult for me than Pluto ones.


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anno_lucis
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posted January 26, 2013 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anno_lucis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nice!! ^ jude law passed me and my ex in the street in chalk farm once but i didn't notice him, my bf told me after lol. gutted. he is pretty yum.

mine's sun/moon, nep, asc.

also sun/moon, nep, pof and juno

mine's in the sea tho. neppy widely conj IC.

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