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scrappydog
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posted October 02, 2011 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm wondering what a family friends transits would signify about her and her baby that should be here in three weeks. She has drank and partied her entire pregnancy, she says she loves the baby, but she is obviously very two faced. Her first two children were forcefully taken away by CPS. This child has no father and she didnt want it at first, now she is saying she does(poor child!) Her current major transits are t pluto squaring her sun 1 deg. and trining her moon 4 deg. T uranus conj her sun in her 5th 1 deg. and squaring her mars. T saturn oppose venus 0 deg.

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Lonake
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posted October 03, 2011 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus on the Sun in the 5th sounds good for this. Uranus going through the 5th can point to unexpected pregnancies, party times, sudden infatuations. She likely feels 'hey, why not bring another child into this world, it's gonna be a blast.' Natal Sun in the 5th is like a child screaming for attention anyway. They can be good with kids but they can also be a big kid themselves. The fact that the father is not in the picture might not phase her right now since Uranus doesn't care about tradition here. I guess her Sun is in Aries, so Uranus going over it is like saying to hell with it I'm gonna be who I want, so this is how she's showing that she is her own independent person apparently. Aries Sun sq Mars already has an independent 'I am who I am' stance anyway so the Uranus is prob aggravating that. Mars sq Uranus can bring up a lot of anger so maybe also this might be her way of dealing with it? If the Mars is in Cancer or Libra then she has increased risk of not being able to handle her anger in an assertive fashion, esp if it's in Cancer.
There are some horror stories about kids being born to mothers like that but it seems most of them come out healthy, I hope that is the case for hers She can always adopt out the child later on if she feels it is too much for her, or give the baby to the emergency room or fire station, well, at least in California. There was a story here not too long ago where a woman gave birth in a bathroom in some store and left the baby in the toilet, so hopefully she did not know about the law, so I would let your friend know if there is a law like that where you are, just in case, http://www.nationalsafehavenalliance.org/states/ OK researching more on this all the states have some form of safe haven law. Here's a number for questions 1-888-510-BABY.

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RegardesPlatero
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posted October 03, 2011 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lonake
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posted October 03, 2011 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, she's def exercising her free will all right.
I'd also look at the house Uranus rules and where it's placed for more info.


"she didnt want it at first, now she is saying she does(poor child!)"
---If this child is meant to be born then he/she will make it here. There are actually a good number of mothers who feel that way about their pregnancy so it's not too uncommon. Again, if the child is meant to be born who really cares what the mother thinks, she's just the vessel.

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posted October 03, 2011 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I don't necessarily think that it's an astrology thing. Remember, astrology represents tendencies. You still have free will and you still have to take personal responsibility for your choices.
I would also say that people who act like this might have mental health problems or emotional health problems and should see a qualified professional.

Popcorn. This my thoughts. Exactly. I agree completely. Its easy to give astrology an answer for our bad luck or bad choises. The person who describes above looks like have strong personal problems.


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posted October 03, 2011 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's the thing tho, why is it on here when it is someone falling in love or winning the lotto it is OK to look at astrology, but when we're talking about death or something potentially unsavory such as this then the naysayers come out and say 'No no, do not look at the charts.' I mean, which is it? You don't really get to pick and choose when astro applies, either you believe it will show in the chart or that it won't and charts are a crock.
This comes up on other forums too and it still amazes me.

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posted October 03, 2011 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
That's the thing tho, why is it on here when it is someone falling in love or winning the lotto it is OK to look at astrology, but when we're talking about death or something potentially unsavory such as this then the naysayers come out and say 'No no, do not look at the charts.' I mean, which is it? You don't really get to pick and choose when astro applies, either you believe it will show in the chart or that it won't and charts are a crock.
This comes up on other forums too and it still amazes me.

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posted October 03, 2011 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa, Lonake! Breathe... I was actually afraid to say something on this topic earlier, but figured what the hell.

Scrappydog, look at her Solar Return chart for this year and the next, as well as the transits. Uranus is going to be in Aries and maybe her 5th house for a while, encouraging her to find pleasure in rebellious activities.
I'm not very good at reading transit or Solar Return charts yet, but if you want I wouldn't mind taking a crack at it.

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posted October 03, 2011 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah:
Whoa, Lonake! Breathe...

If you think that sounds like me being upset you haven't seen anything. That is me being tame (!)

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posted October 03, 2011 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
o gawd!

i'm almost relieved!

did any other pluto in scorpio person click on this thread expecting something not unlike '2 girls, 1 cup'?

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posted October 03, 2011 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I'm Pluto Libra and I don't understand that term. I think maybe I don't want to know

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posted October 03, 2011 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^ I'm Pluto Libra and I don't understand that term. I think maybe I don't want to know

oh, but you must! http://2girls1cup.nl/ [NSFWW!!!!!]

thou has not liveth til thouh has seeneth that and joinedth the rest of the internet community!

but PLEASE only watch it in the privacy of your own home, SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!

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posted October 04, 2011 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake, I wasn't being serious. But I do agree with you about the "naysayers." They remind of those people who comment on articles saying that the topic/person isn't interesting or they don't know who the person is that the article's about. Oh, do NOT watch two girls and one cup, but do look up reactions to it on youtube. That's worth a laugh.

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posted October 04, 2011 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for britterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
do not click on that link unless you want to have your brain scarred.


btw, why hasn't this chick's chart been posted already?! Come on! Is this an astrology message board or not?

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posted October 04, 2011 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 04, 2011 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 04, 2011 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake,

must really be a generational thing. I do not understand that reference either. And now I am too scared to watch that video.

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posted October 04, 2011 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's what I think: STAY AWAY FROM THAT LINK! Girl's Behaving Badly came to mind when I first saw the title. Was a little disappointed to not read that a gang of pregnant women were tipping over cows and trailers.

Astrology shows the good and bad. Remember, there's a dark side to every sign? A few years ago, I read something about an aspect in my chart and saw that I shared it with Hilter. It scared the living $#!+ out of me, but then I kept reading into my chart. With the bad, there is also good. If you choose to live out the dark side of your chart or even just the good is up to you. At the risk of stepping on toes here, I have to say that astrology is much more complex than what some have aluded to. Yes, we have free will, but look at your chart to find explanations for you supposed rebellion and you'll see that you haven't really defied anything. Sorry, but we don't know everything about astrology and to say that someone's chart, without even looking at, doesn't explain the person is wrong.

I've been dabbling with my chart since I was 18, now 26, and I'm still learning. There are times when I finally understand things that stun me and leave me wondering why I didn't see whatever a long time ago.

Alright, enough highjacking. Scrappy, would you mind posting her chart?

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posted October 04, 2011 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for britterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

and the brown stuff is poop. srsly.

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posted October 04, 2011 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I don't necessarily think that it's an astrology thing. Remember, astrology represents tendencies. You still have free will and you still have to take personal responsibility for your choices.

I would also say that people who act like this might have mental health problems or emotional health problems and should see a qualified professional.


Good point. I can just see it now, people looking at charts and whenever they see Uranus in the 5th, assuming that person will be just like this woman when it comes to their children....

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posted October 04, 2011 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Well you're thinking people are gonna jump the gun but so what. This manifestation is still in the realm of possibility for that placement. It's no biggie. For every aspect or placement etc. there is a wide range. That is what people need to know (but they shouldn't be looking at charts if they don't know that already imo).
So yes I will still keep putting things like that out there because it is within range.
If someone wants to have a certain image stuck in their head it's no skin off my back.

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posted October 04, 2011 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lonake,

must really be a generational thing. I do not understand that reference either. And now I am too scared to watch that video.



I think now we don't have to

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posted October 04, 2011 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Um, whoa. The mother is "just a vessel"?!

I for one care what the mother thinks. Her rights trump the fetus' and she has every right to control her own body and to make decisions about her own life. Women are NOT objects.

I genuinely don't mean to be rude, but how can a woman say that about herself and other women?!



^ You didn't understand my post.

And it is an astrology thing if the OP is bringing the issue and some transits to this msg board. How can it not be.
I like to look at charts no matter the issue at hand. No one is looking for excuses for anyone. We look at what happened then we look at the charts. I'm not branding the pregnant woman as rotten or as a saint, she's just human.

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posted October 04, 2011 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[b]Lonake,

must really be a generational thing. I do not understand that reference either. And now I am too scared to watch that video.



I think now we don't have to [/B][/QUOTE]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, but you DOOOOOOOOO!!!! O_o

words cannot even begin to explain!
i'll leave it to you,
get to it on your own time
but i tell you
it is seriously one of the only things u will see
that will most certainly
build an instant bond between u and anyone else
who has also seen it because it is one of the BIGGEST
things to have ever happened to mankind.

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posted October 04, 2011 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, but you DOOOOOOOOO!!!! O_o

words cannot even begin to explain!
i'll leave it to you,
get to it on your own time
but i tell you
it is seriously one of the only things u will see
that will most certainly
build an instant bond between u and anyone else
who has also seen it because it is one of the BIGGEST
things to have ever happened to mankind.


ARARARWAFRDEFSAJHAN...THAT SHOULD NAWT BE SEEN BY ANYOOOOONE...it just...no! It should never! Why would they even...? D:

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