posted October 03, 2011 11:57 AM            

The Cappy said: I actually got my apartment due to xyz circumstances. In fact, there's one available right under me.

The Saggy said: These people were in town and looking for a good time. Really good looking. You would've had fun, you could've made a lot of money.

Scorpio: Are you seeing anyone right now? Who? Do I know them? Where do they work?

**cookbook Alert!**

Reputable. You try to impress the one you desire with your reputation, position, job title, career, social standing, or wealth. You appear "respectable" yourself, and act "respectful" of the one you desire.

Responsible. You attract the one you desire by being reliable, solid, and supportive. You may offer to take over some of their "responsibilities" for them so that they come to depend on your support.

Mature. You appear self-disciplined, competent, and "in control". You may act like a "parent figure" to a less mature person - or appear to appreciate the "maturity" of one you desire.

Material. You show you can offer attractive practical or material benefits - such as financial support and security, a good home, and the finer things in life.

Committed. You seem very willing to make commitments, such as to a friendship or long-term relationship; or seem to be "marriage-minded". You act like one who "plays for keeps" and will be forever faithful.

posted October 03, 2011 12:33 PM            

A clear sign will be if/when he inquires about your relationship status. Like the Scorpio above.

Me: My lips are so dry.
Scorpio: Here, try some of this.
Me: Thanks
Scorpio: Oh, my lips are dry too

There we were both of us with shiny lips.

Look for similar behavior.

posted October 03, 2011 12:43 PM              

They're social-climbing. If you're famous or someone that others notice/admire, Cap Venus will be drawn to you. Wondering what you could do for their image/career.

When they flirt, they'll act like they're toying with you. Like they're teasing you because they think they're somehow superior to you. So that if you reject them, they won't look like they're losing face. They don't handle rejection well.

When they're interested, they will test the waters with you first with some innocuous comment, see if you'll bite. Once you do, they will be circumspect and will put you through a series of "interviews" and tests. They have high standards and have a definite checklist of criteria set in mind. Once you meet every single one of the requirements, they will treat you very well. HOWEVER. They're hypergamous. Meaning, they'll stay with you until someone "better" (whatever this means in their little book of criteria) comes along. Or if he loses his job or goes down a few notches in social status, he will no longer feel worthy of you, so he may behave like a jerk so that you'll dump him like he deserves.

Watch out if this Cap Venus guy is currently undergoing a Pluto conjunct Venus transit, because Pluto is now in the early degrees of Capricorn. This transit indicates a transformation of Venusian issues - what he looks for in relationships, what his ideal woman is like, his finances, his self-worth, his core values. If he lacks Plutonian energy in his chart, you may end up obsessing over him because he unconsciously sought you out to play out the obsessive, compulsive part of this transit FOR him, because you have Venus in Scorpio. Additionally, if you are indeed his Pluto woman during a Pluto transit to his Venus, he may re-shape his Venusian ideals after you. But it would be a tumultuous ride involving power struggles.

IN ADDITION! Uranus is in Aries. If his Venus is in the early degrees of Cap, he will be struggling with freedom-closeness urges. Or he may be going for you because you are not the type he usually goes for; he may subconsciously be looking for a way out of his current social circle by choosing a woman who is different. If this is the case, you may be at odds with his friends.

Venus in Caps can be time wasters. They move slowly because whenever they jump into a relationship, it somehow falls apart. So unless you hit every single one of his set criteria right away, he will hem and haw over getting into a relationship with you. If he has commitmentphobic indicators in his chart, such as hard Uranus contacts to personal planets or Saturn in the 8th, he will just string someone along.

Male Venus in Caps seem to think it's attractive when a female is hard to get. Not just playing hard to get; when she actually IS hard to get. And busy.

posted October 03, 2011 01:00 PM              

though I wonder if that may be because my Pluto is squaring my Venus natally?

And I am one of those having Tr Pluto conjunct and Tr Uranus square Venus (mine is on 6 Cap).

posted October 03, 2011 01:03 PM              

I'll post more if something comes to mind. Anything positive may take a few days, because I'm currently experiencing a Sun-Mercury square to my Mars and am finding it very difficult to say anything charitable about anyone!

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And I am one of those having Tr Pluto conjunct and Tr Uranus square Venus (mine is on 6 Cap).

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Uranus won't be hitting your Venus for a year or two (gotta look it up in an ephemeris), so at least you won't have to deal with both these major transits simultaneously.

posted October 03, 2011 01:17 PM              

yes your description resonates with me, though I am not the type for affairs, sexual or not (that sounds quite Capricornian,d oesn`t it? lol).
But I can already feel an increase of attention directed towards me and it is making me nervous to be honest. Not sure how to deal with it.

Anyway, I am pretty sure I may come across as detached or calm and controlled often (my Moon is in Aquarius, which is not really all that feminine placement as well), but it is to protect my pretty vulnerable insides. Fear of intimacy for sure (Saturn is in Cancer in 8th house, and retrograde - what else? ).

For transits, do you use an one degree orb?

posted October 03, 2011 01:34 PM              

I am anything but practical. I don`t know. I know that it is a Capricornian trait, but I am not like that. Maybe my Sag stellium and Neptune on ASC and Mars create too much chaos.

I am careful though, and I can appear businesslike, downright defensive I guess. Actually I think the more attracted I am to someone the more shut down I appear, which makes it hard to make contact.

But it is not for practical reasons, it is simply fear of rejection or doing or understanding something wrong.
I can get so scared that I seem to not move anymore at all. Frozen in a moment.

But I feel, very intensely though, and if I am in love (and I equally hate and love falling in love), I am so defenceless, I feel I have to put up really strong defenses so noone will notice I am not in control anymore.

I KNOW that being in control is an illusion anyway, but I am still working on letting down my guard.

It is just, it feels like "All or nothing", love is a matter of life and death to me (psychologically speaking).
I´ve been crushed completely more than once (though sometimes it was my own fault, you have to give some signs of interest, how should the other know otherwise? ), but if my hopes and emotions and romantic dreams are crushed, it really feels like dying, so most of the time I refrain from going there.
Of course you cannot prevent it; but you can pretend you are not as affected as you are, which is very warped Saturnian logic, I know that. As I said Saturn and me are working on it.

Cause Pluto can be a nasty little ******* , if you deny him what he wants. You know that.

So far I managed well, especially the transit of Pluto over my Sun and Mercury was a wonderful experience, most of the time. But Venus - totally different matter.

Anyway nothing practical about me.
Just very very scared deep inside, and trying to hide it.
Of course I talked about it now, but that is a thing I actualyl can do now, talk about it.
But showing it, especially physical interest, that is definitely not easy for me.

posted October 03, 2011 08:17 PM            

"How do they flirt? Do they flirt at all?"
---The second point is an apt one. No they do not flirt in the conventional manner, at all. They have to be around you for a while to feel secure and then when they think you're on their level and their fear factor dies down they will approach in a distant manner and may not touch on the subject of romance at all, you might think they just saw you as another person and not as a woman based just on verbal content alone, but you would be wrong. If there's a special seriousness they take on in their approach to you, if you feel like they're looking at you with a lil too much..gravity is all I can call it, then there is a good chance that his Venus is making an appearance. There's a feeling when they like you and are talking to you that everything they're communicating has added weight, they don't approach easily. When they mean business, they mean business, and they expect you to pick up on subtlety and follow their lead accordingly. You have to fit into their life in whatever space they have available. You have to be someone they respect, you have to be someone they feel comfortable opening up to. There's actually a lot that is expected of you when you are theirs. If they show off (I use that term loosely) their recent accomplishments or their goals, or anything that would make them look mature (like buying a house) that is a v.v.good sign, they're trying to impress you and show that they do have worth, that they have something to offer and are a good investment for you to make (!) They can be guilty sometimes of giving you the hard sell but it's not for any glory it's just that they don't want to walk into a relationship empty handed with nothing of value.
I will be honest, it can take an eternity to get together with these guys if you let them take the lead. But it depends on other factors and also your synastry regarding how obvious they will be in the approach, Moon will play a strong role too. You have to be careful cos some of these guys like v.traditional masculine/feminine roles and there are others who really.really.really need to be drawn out for their own good, but in the end do you want to draw someone out or would you rather have a man that just goes for you point blank, so that's something to weigh.

It depends it may take a while to suss out that you are appropriate for him or he may know quite quickly, it all depends on the sort of air you give off. If you fit whatever profile he has stored of his image of his ideal companion then you are on the list. Getting on their list is the hard part, cos they seemed all v.picky. Now you have the pleasure of waiting until they feel ready to get around to taking care of priorities. It sounds long and excruciating and it can be, but if you want him and a sincere partner that they typically are then you will sit your butt down and wait until he has all his xyz's squared away, you will sit your butt right down and not make a sound. I don't know why but they need to feel like everything in their life is completely attended to before romance can enter the picture. A lot of women would say he doesn't make me priority number one then I am out. Venus Capricorn men say good riddance to such a high maintenance type. Really. They don't want you. They want a stable partner who understands that they have other things on their plate and they want you to have your own life too. I haven't seen them be overly superficial, on the whole, or hung up too much on looks, commenting on women's boobs and absurd things like that 24/7. They can be v.classy, but it's a classiness that the guy is growing into, so bear that in mind that sometimes he will look like a lil boy playing dress up in his father's suit, maybe literally, maybe just as his general romantic manner, so there is something in them that wants to be a man that other men look up to, that commands respect, but he may not be there yet so give him the space he needs also to find his own way in that respect. I could really go on and on about them with my experiences but I think I've written prob too much already

posted October 03, 2011 08:37 PM            

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To be honest if he was just his sun, I wouldn't have minded, but because his Venus is also in Cap; I'm thinking, RUN!

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posted October 03, 2011 09:40 PM              

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LOL, you seem so funny and so sweet despite your negative astro transits at the moment! I find self-awareness and honest very attractive to people (I'm a female, who loves men, lol, but I'm also an Aqua rising who loves all people lol).
Take care and please do write something nice about males with Venus in Cap if you think of any. For sure, I will re-read your account above very carefully.
And I can't believe I met another Venus in Scorpio female on the board!

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I think you're better off heeding Lonake's description of Cap Venus! Straight from the horse's -- um, I mean goat's mouth, and it is dead-on. And no, Cap Venus is definitely not for girls like me who are strong believers in the time-saving "He's just not that into you" dating philosophy.

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yes your description resonates with me, though I am not the type for affairs, sexual or not (that sounds quite Capricornian,d oesn`t it? lol).
But I can already feel an increase of attention directed towards me and it is making me nervous to be honest. Not sure how to deal with it.

Anyway, I am pretty sure I may come across as detached or calm and controlled often (my Moon is in Aquarius, which is not really all that feminine placement as well), but it is to protect my pretty vulnerable insides. Fear of intimacy for sure (Saturn is in Cancer in 8th house, and retrograde - what else? ).

For transits, do you use an one degree orb?

I remember when Tr uranus was conjunct my Venus, it was such a wonderful carefree joyful exciting stimulating happy time and yes I was in love and crushing heavily at that time. not sure the square will be the same, but I wouldn´t mind.

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Yeah, Venus in Cap girls would try to be very proper and respectable. My mom would not see the point of having a torrid love affair and if she tried, she'd be so awkward about it.

Personally, I use a 5-degree orb for outer planet transits. Because they are capable of such major, drawn-out changes, the deck will need to start being cleared before the actual hit. Pluto has been about 5 degrees from my natal 4th house Sun for the past year and already I can feel myself changing inside. Hopefully when it hits 0 degrees, the change will manifest outwardly.

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Capriq, you mentioned that a Venus in Scorpio could only be loved the same way by another Venus in Scorpio.
I had met a Libra man with Venus in Scorpio very close to mine. Although I really liked his way in love, I was completely turned off by his spinelessness! The man had no spine; he would say anything to please me. That was the main reason why nothing came of that. I just can't stand Libras when they get this jellybean kind of spine in a relationship. Period. The other thing is he had a number of very close friendships with females to the point of that being weird. It's like he admired and wanted all these fabulous women who couldn't see him as a man enough to date him so they stayed "friends" instead. Venus in Scorpio wants exclusivity in feelings and wants to feel special in her man's life.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is that many factors play along with his Sun and Venus placements. For me the turn off in that case of a man with Venus in Scorpio was his Libra planets. I've also been with a Mars in Scorpio - oh - my - god....... hot hot hot but forget anything about a longterm steady relationship. Again the whole chart is important though.
For me, because of my Mars-Venus square, I don't get along with Venus Scorpio who get to feel both my Mars square and my Moon opposition. It takes more than just a common Venus placement. For me, I mean.

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I realllly want to get with a Scorpio Mars that conjuncts my Venus! I had a thing with a Scorp Mars once but the conjunction was out of orb. He had Scorpio Juno conjunct my Venus though, and this seemed to bring him much more satisfaction than it brought me.

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They have to be around you for a while to feel secure and then when they think you're on their level and their fear factor dies down they will approach in a distant manner and may not touch on the subject of romance at all, you might think they just saw you as another person and not as a woman based just on verbal content alone, but you would be wrong.

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You have to fit into their life in whatever space they have available.

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And about the "xyz" thing... very spot-on. That is exactly what my Cap Venus guy seemed to want to do (but he is immature, so his version of "xyz" was goofing off with his friends and calling it work).

posted October 04, 2011 04:45 AM              

thanks for your nice assessment of my personality.
I like that I come across as approachable. I definitely work on that. But for me it is easier online, probably because it leaves my physical appearance out of the contact.

And yes, I am working on it. That`s the fun, isn`t it? To learn and grow and discover new things about yourself every step of the way.

Just take for example that situation on that concert I told you about. I was of course being a bit embarrassed and feeling very shy, but it gave me also the thrill of learning something new about myself. And others. I love that.

posted October 04, 2011 04:52 AM              

I am listening very closely, cause this guy who`s been on my mind has a Cappy-Venus as well (but with a Sun-Moon in Sag). He`s actually goofing around all the time, but I guess in this case you won´t get what you see.
Sun/Moon/MC/ Mercury in Sag and ASC and Venus aspecting Uranus, Mars/jupiter-conjunction squaring Mercury, and at the same time that Mars/Jupiter is in Virgo in 6th house and Saturn is in 7th house trine Venus and squaring Sun and Moon, and Pluto in 7th house as well squaring Venus.

posted November 01, 2015 08:34 AM              

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
I've dealt closely with three Venus in Cap's so far. Romantically involved with one, did not end well, so I'm a bit biased here, but this is what I learned.

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What are your placements, Capriquarius?